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Interesting ...

Well, if this is true and a queen can sometimes be elected, then it proves that Leia is not a princess due to her relationship to Amidala - since 1.  Amidala was not a true queen, but more an elected official.  And 2. Amidala had renounced the title of queen and passed it on to someone else long before Luke and Leia were born.

So, the Organa connection must be where the "princess" title came from all along.

I'm good with this.

Oops.  I must have missed it in the first paragraph there, it says "Kaiburr crystal".  :)

I remember this tale.  I think the crystal was called the "Kyber Crystal" or something like that.  

I remember some parts being cheesy, but most of it was pretty good, like the section above.  Too bad Lucas turned the epic battle between Obi-wan and Anakin into a CG lava surfing video game with about as much emotion as a tofu sandwich :(

Filthy Pierre said:

adywan said:

This is a really interesting excerpt from the upcoming "Making of Return of the Jedi" book.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/star-wars-prequels-return-of-the-jedi_n_3313793.html

Interesting to just how different his plans were back then. It also destroys the argument of the prequel fans that they were planned out that way all along ( i bet they're going to love that ;) ). 

So to summarise;

Yoda doesn't fight. He is more of a teacher.

NO MIDICHLORIANS

Jedi can love and marry.

ANYONE can learn to use the force if they are prepared to learn.

Luke & Leia's mother was still alive until they were 2 years old

So they would have originally fit in pretty well with the OT.

 Should of stuck to it.

 Amen.  Too bad Lucas decided he wanted to change it all around just to spite Gary Kurtz for turning the Star Wars films into good movies instead of the garbage Lucas wanted.  And we all see how that turned out when Lucas got his way finally with the Special Editions and Prequels :(

SilverWook said:

Yes, but the people of Naboo elect their Queens. There doesn't even seem to be any Kings, let alone a royal bloodline. And they have term limits, so Padme gave up the title.

If Leia hadn't been adopted by Bail Organa, she wouldn't even be a princess!

The whole idea of a queen being "elected" in the first place is ridiculous. Queens / Kings are heirs to a throne through a royal bloodline - no one elects a king or queen.  

Furthermore, even if that were the case, I doubt the people of Naboo would elect a pubescent teenage girl as the undisputed ruler of their entire planet.  Then again, they did put freaking Jar Jar in the senate, so who knows. Either way it's lame and the people of Naboo are once again proven to be imbeciles.  

Technically, Leia is not a true princess since she was adopted.  But, the Organas are an old line of Alderaanian royalty in the original tale.  Therefore, their adopted daughter is given the title of princess, even though the title is basically meaningless in current Alderaan society since the planet became a democracy many years prior.  But the title also helps Leia hide as one of the Organas, since in the original tale, I doubt Anakin's wife was supposed to be royalty - that junk was just made up by Lucas in 1998 when he started writing Ep1.  This change also makes the Organas look stupid if so.  "Oh hey, check out our new adopted daughter here - Princess Leia - she's a princess because her mom was like a queen of Naboo and all.  But, nobody is supposed to know that, it's a secret, so don't tell Darth Vader, okay?"  Lame.

Besides, even if Amidala was a real queen ... blah blah blah ... how come we never hear anyone saying "Prince Luke Skywalker?"    

If Lucas had kept the Special Editions as "Special Editions" (just as the name implies) - and had them as bonuses on the DVDs / Bluray sets along with the nice, cleaned, up 16x9, digitally restored versions of the Original Theatrical cuts, ... then no, I don't think people would have been so up in arms over them.  They just would've been a "hey, that's a neat feature to have an alternate version of the films included."  But, since he didn't do that, I can see why I, and many, many other folks are upset, cause the SE's freaking SUCK!

I remember when Lucasfilm was finally going to release the OT on DVD for the first time back in like 1998/99.  I pre-ordered them, went to the store to pick them up and was so excited when I popped them in my DVD player ... only to learn a few moments later that the crummy SE's were the only things on the discs.  :(  I returned them about an hour later.  That's false advertising if I've ever seen it.

Thank God for Harmy and the Despecialized Editions is all I can say.

Despite the fact that Lucas defenders will claim this stuff isn't technically canon is really irrelevant.  (I mean, who really considers the prequels canon anyway?  Sheesh!)

Anyways, my point is, that canon or no, all of this stuff - the transcript published in Rinzler's book, the original RotJ script, etc. - all still points to the same thing. That the original tales of Anakin's downfall, his fight with Obi-wan, him not knowing of the pregnancy, Owen Lars being Kenobi's estranged brother - was the tale that Lucas and Kasdan and Kurtz built the Original Trilogy films upon.  It's obvious this is exactly what they thought the backstory was all along - and it came from the big Gungan mouth of old George Lucas the whole time.  Just cause he changes his mind in 1999 and starts revamping his original ideas doesn't make it any less true or any less obvious that it used to be this way. 

Not to mention, it fits perfectly with everything we've seen in the OT, and is also a much more compelling and interesting backdrop than the garbage Lucas crafted for the prequels IMHO.  

And ... just in case the link doesn't work or you don't feel like scrolling through it all - here is Scene 51 from the script -

51   EXT DAGOBAH SWAMP - X-WING 

Luke wanders back to where his ship is sitting. Artoo beeps a greeting, 
but is ignored by his depressed master. Luke kneels down, begins to 
help Artoo with the ship, then stops and shakes his head dejectedly.

LUKE
I can't do it, Artoo. I can't go on alone.

BEN	 (OS)
Yoda will always be with you.

Luke looks up to see the shimmering image of BEN KENOBI.

LUKE
Obi-Wan! Why didn't you tell me?

The ghost of Ben Kenobi approaches him through the swamp.

LUKE
You told me Vader betrayed and murdered my father.

BEN
You father was seduced by the dark side of the Force. He ceased to be 
Anakin Skywalker
and became Darth Vader. When that happened, the good man who was your 
father was destroyed. So what I have told you was true... from a 
certain point of view.

LUKE	 (turning away, derisive)
A certain point of view!

BEN
Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend 
greatly on our own
point of view.

Luke is unresponsive. Ben studies him in silence for a moment.

BEN
I don't blame you for being angry. If I was wrong in what I did, it 
certainly wouldn't have been for the first time. You see, what happened 
to your father was my fault.

Ben pauses sadly.

BEN
Anakin was a good friend.

Luke turns with interest at this. As Ben speaks, Luke settles on a 
stump, mesmerized. Artoo comes over to offer his comforting presence.

BEN
When I first knew him, your father was already a great pilot. But I was 
amazed how strongly the Force was with him. I took it upon myself to 
train him as a Jedi. I thought that I could instruct him just as well 
as Yoda. I was wrong. My pride has had terrible consequences for the 
galaxy.

Luke is entranced.

LUKE
There's still good in him.

BEN
I also thought he could be turned back to the good side. It couldn't be 
done. He is more machine now than man. Twisted and evil.

LUKE
I can't do it, Ben.

BEN
You cannot escape your destiny.

LUKE
I tried to stop him once. I couldn't do it.

BEN
Vader humbled you when first you met him, Luke... but that experience 
was part of your training. It taught you, among other things, the value 
of patience. Had you not been so impatient to defeat Vader then, you 
could have finished your training here with Yoda. You would have been 
prepared.

LUKE
But I had to help my friends.

BEN	 (grinning at Luke's indignation)
And did you help them? It was they who had to save you. You achieved 
little by rushing back prematurely, I fear.

LUKE	 (with sadness)
I found out Darth Vader was my father.

BEN
To be a Jedi, Luke, you must confront and then go beyond the dark side 
- the side your father couldn't get past. Impatience is the easiest 
door - for you, like your father. Only, your father was seduced by what 
he found on the other side of the door, and you have held firm. You're 
no longer so reckless now, Luke. You are strong and patient. And now, 
you must face Darth Vader again!

LUKE
I can't kill my own father.

BEN
Then the Emperor has already won. You were our only hope.

LUKE
Yoda spoke of another.

BEN
The other he spoke of is your twin sister.

LUKE
But I have no sister.

BEN
Hmm. To protect you both from the Emperor, you were hidden from your 
father when you were born. The Emperor knew, as I did, if Anakin were 
to have any offspring, they would be a threat to him. That is the 
reason why your sister remains safely anonymous.

LUKE
Leia! Leia's my sister.

BEN
Your insight serves you well. Bury your feelings deep down, Luke. They 
do you credit.
But they could be made to serve the Emperor.

Luke looks into the distance, trying to comprehend all this.

BEN	 (continuing his narrative)
When your father left, he didn't know your mother was pregnant. Your 
mother and I knew he would find out eventually, but we wanted to keep 
you both as safe as possible, for as long as possible.  So I took you 
to live with my brother Owen on Tatooine... and your mother took Leia 
to live as the daughter of Senator Organa, on Alderaan.

Luke turns, and settles near Ben to hear the tale.

BEN	 (attempting to give solace with his words)
The Organa household was high-born and politically quite powerful in 
that system. Leia became a princess by virtue of lineage... no one knew 
she'd been adopted, of course. But it was a title without real power, 
since Alderaan had long been a democracy.  Even so, the family 
continued to be politically powerful, and Leia, following in her foster 
father's path, became a senator as well.  That's not all she became, of 
course... she became the leader of her cell in the Alliance against the 
corrupt Empire. And because she had diplomatic immunity, she was a 
vital link for getting information to the Rebel cause.  That's what she 
was doing when her path crossed yours... for her foster parents had 
always told her to contact me on Tatooine, if her troubles became 
desperate.

Luke is overwhelmed by the truth, and is suddenly protective of his 
sister.

LUKE
But you can't let her get involved now, Ben. Vader will destroy her.

BEN
She hasn't been trained in the ways of the Jedi the way you have, 
Luke... but the Force is strong with her, as it is with all of your 
family. There is no avoiding the battle. You must face and destroy 
Vader!

Sorry gang, a bit late to the party here.  But, I also remember Anakin fighting Kenobi over a volcano, Anakin not knowing his wife was pregnant, Leia being a
princess because the Organas were Alderaanian royalty, etc.  

And, I just came across this -

http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Wars-Return-of-the-Jedi.html

I think it's the original script for RotJ.  Check scene 51.  Ben's ghost is talking to Luke on Dagobah, and he gives Luke some extended dialogue about Anakin, their fight, the Organas, etc.  Pretty cool and this is what I always thought as the back story for the OT.  Surprised when Lucas changed it all for the crummy prequels :(