User Profile: JediRocco - Original Trilogy

Post: #237157
Topic: Alternate ending to Episode IV
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237157/action/topic#237157
Time: 21-Aug-2006 1:58 AM

LIKE IT! Needs more "Jedi Rocks," though. And Howard the Duck shooting first. Then, for me, the trilogies would be complete.

Post: #237080
Topic: What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237080/action/topic#237080
Time: 20-Aug-2006 7:14 PM

Thanks for responding. Sorry kept putting OT when I meant PT. And PT when I meant OT. And OPP when I meant Other Prequels Palpatine. I was still feeling the after-effects of my life day celebration the evening before.

Post: #236596
Topic: What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/236596/action/topic#236596
Time: 18-Aug-2006 1:59 PM

Okay, I just signed up and I know I'm entering the fray quite late, but after looking at your arguments for the original trilogy, then spending a couple of days of watching both, and REALLY watching both(not just enjoying the PT because, hey, its Star Wars, and even at it's worst it's better than My Gay Friends Best Wedding or some other claptrap featuring Hugh Grant or Julia Roberts), I've come up with thoughts, certainly not definitive, on why the PT cannot even be considered in the same context of the original three. Unfortunately its long, so if you need to something marginally important(i.e spending valuable time with loved ones), you want to go ahead and skip this.

1) No trademark lines. This speaks to the dialogue, of course, but one of the most amazing parts of the OT was the classic phrases that invariably you would find ways afterwards to work into your life in an albeit inappropriate, but really satisfying ways. I'm talking about the:

"I have you now."
"All too easy."
"He's no good to me dead."
"Never tell me the odds."
"Luminous beings are we."
"Do or do not. There is no try."
"Yeah, I bet you have."
"Awwwwaggghh." Okay, this is Chewie’s and doesn't really count. But I often scream it during sex. It's okay to feel really bad for my girlfriend right now. The social services people feel the same way.

This is just the VERY tip of the iceberg. There is nothing even close in the OT. Instead we have:

"I killed them all. Even the women and children."
"This is really pod racing."
"Anakin, you’re breaking my heart."
"Only a sith thinks in absolutes." Which is, as we all know, is an ABSOLUTE statement.
"I enjoy making lots of money on shitty taco bell promotions." This last one is McCallum.

No, its not because so much time has past that the first movies were classic. Anyone who was in a elementary school classroom the week after the OT movies came out could attest to that. It's that that someone took the time to make sure the dialogue matched the characters and scope of the plot. That didn’t happen in the OT.

2) There was no point to AOTC. There was no reason to make the movie, there was no reveal, it introduced an enemy that was dispatched in the first five minutes of ROTS, and it reduced the super cool storm troopers, who before were valued elite forces, to a bunch of frickin' clones. We learned that Anakin gets, "angry?" That’s the reason were making this movie? As fans, the tip-off than Anakin gets "angry" should be in the first three movies when his hobby is using force choke on high ranking members of the imperial army. I guess it sold a lot of toys, so that's something.

3) The adversaries were one-offs with no real connection to the plot. Darth Maul was super bad-ass looking, and yes, like every other fanboy I proverbially creamed in my not so proverbially jeans over the double bladed lightsaber. That was awesome. But what wasn't so awesome was how he had three lines, and just died. Then in Ep II, we get this old guy, who we are told (at least in the sourcebooks and novels) is the greatest swordsman in the jedi lore. He is introduced briefly, then dies right away in EpIII. And Grievous? What halfway decent writer introduces a new, unannounced, unreferenced villain in the third ACT? It's not Jabba, who was mentioned in A New Hope and Empire, so when we finally saw him, makes complete sense and his death represents something. I really feel Grievous was just there to sell action figures. Now, if you told me that Grievous was the remains of Maul, well, then we have something. You have precedent, a chance for a big reveal, and a very dramatic fight between an older Obi-Wan and a renewed Maul. Instead You have a CGI stroke-fest.Vader, the emperor, and to a lesser extent, Boba Fett were allowed to develop in front of the audience throughout the series, so their eventual demise said something. These new sith were just a bunch of thugs.

One other thing, which really isn't significant enough to merit a separate point, but you’re here anyway and I'm bored is the age of Obi- Wan. I grew up thinking, and therefore using action figures to recreate, that he was in his mid to late seventies in A New Hope. Using the timeline suggested by the PT, he is in his 50's in A New Hope. Qui-Gon was in his fifties, and he's flipping around, twirling lightsabers and cutting trough droid armies. A New Hope Obi Wan is shuffling around and scurrying away from sandpeople. It makes no sense. My action figure recreations were ruined. Because of this incongruity, I was forced once again to dredge out the action figures and replay the battles with the correct timeline. And yes, due to length of said action figure recreation battles they may have elapsed into my girlfriend's birthday dinner plans. Thanks a lot, Lucas!

Thanks of staying around. Later.Text

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