JayArgonaut

SpacemanDoug said:

Though the unique thing is sometimes the first DVD release had extra bits not seen in the TV versions of the episodes, but sadly they were omitted on the re-release due to them wanting to reflect the original BBC broadcast versions

That’s interesting and also disappointing that they didn’t include the extended episodes as alternate versions on the re-release. Doing so would have given fans the best of both worlds.

😄 We’d only the need the episodes (movie length?) that are affected on home video. I reckon that between the two of us that we can get this done. Hit me up in PMs?

Damn it! 😦

Thanks for checking. You’re right, let’s see what happens. Shall we both record the episodes in question? 😃

Cheers mate.

I hadn’t seen that thread. Thanks for the heads up. 😃

Baobab Archiver said:

…but a couple of syndicated episodes which we may be lucky enough to get broadcast unedited.
Could be wrong though, as I’m by no means knowledgeable on the series.

Yeah, I mentioned that in my original post. This I suspect might interest people the most. They’re airing a 16:9 version of the pilot - was the series shot with HDTV protection? If not then its been cropped and it might not be worth recording the episodes if they’re in the wrong aspect ratio. 😦

Just happened to look through the EPG and discovered that they’re airing the pilot tonight and it would appear, also the entire series over the coming weeks/months.

Given the information in this thread, the soundtrack has been restored for the Blu-ray releases but they lack some of the original movie length versions of the episodes. They’re included on the DVDs apparently but it might be worth capping them in case of soundtrack substitutions.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/TV-shows-on-DVD-edited-either-due-to-syndicated-prints-or-music-rights/id/69081/page/2#1293628

Let me know you think. If there’s enough interest, I’ll clear some space on my PVR and record the whole lot.

timemeddler said:

does anyone know where to find the 80’s censored for the cbs tv version of the The Exorcist? supposedly it has alternate dialog.

Seems to be confirmed below. Apparently Friedkin prepared the TV version himself.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070047/alternateversions?ref_=tt_ql_trv_5

ZigZig said:

The entry for The Phantom Edit has not been removed, it was moved to the trivia section: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/trivia

So it actually has been removed from the section after all?

Anyway, you win.

Happy now? Now you can feel big. Enjoy the day. 😉

Maybe, but the entry for The Phantom Edit has also been removed and that was certainly not wrong. We definitely know that exists…

ZigZig said:

I’ve been searching on Internet Web Archive (web.archive.org), there are regular backups of the “alternate versions” page since 2003.
I found no mention of any differences on the VHS on any backup of that page. Actually, IMDB doesn’t talk about the VHS release at all.

Yes, I had also checked the Archive in the hope that it would be there. Unfortunately, it appears that the archiving began after the entry was removed.

Ryan-SWI said:

By memory there’s a very slighty different shot of Darth Maul during the final duel on the pan and scan version

In many years past, I remember seeing that listed within the IMDBs Alternate Versions section for TPM.

screams in the void said:

Just don’t get in an altercation over the alterations 😃 Interesting thread .

I see you what you did there!

projectcclarke said:

Check out www.starwarshomevideo.com

Already have. 😉

projectcclarke said:

Hey… glad you like my site… will be adding loads more titles soon.

I look forward to seeing them.

Will they include further V2000 releases - and, do you personally own the Star Wars V2000 tapes? 😄

RandallFloyd said:

I haven’t had that kind of luck though. I had to resort to buying most of these.

Wait: you had to purchase most of them?

What’s really annoying about that is the near certainty that whoever they are very likely obtained them for free from communities like this in the first place…

Another entry is The Wackness (2008). Its original cut was screened at Sundance but due to an inability to licence many of the songs that were used on the soundtrack, it has never been exhibited since. A re-edited version featuring a largely different soundtrack was released on home video - and aired on BBC Two.

My favourite example is the 1987 BBC TV film Coast to Coast. It has never received a home video release and according to the distributor and a co-star, it never will because the cost of re-licencing the Motown laden soundtrack would not be economically viable.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090858/

Dancing in the Street aka Rock & Roll (1996). A stupendous PBS/BBC produced documentary on the history of Rock & Roll and its derivatives. There was a UK VHS release but it has never officially seen the light of day on DVD - or any other digital format and the volume of music involved means that this situation is highly unlikely to ever change.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375293/

I’ll have to check the Bonanza airings on CBS Justice to see if they’ve managed to escape this revision.

The Ballad of Jed Clampett has been replaced on the public domain sourced episodes of The Beverly Hillbillies due to copyright issues. Reportedly it has been restored for the official DVD releases by CBS but season four does contain other music changes.

Nothing is safe!

Interesting comparison of the pan and scanning choices between the two versions. The differences in the colour timing are also extremely striking. I think that I prefer the 1985 master for the most part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-g_PQe9iHE

For those who own the P&S Laserdiscs, can you confirm whether they use the same masters as the versions shown in this comparison, or are they framed differently? How about the ABC-TV version also?

SpacemanDoug said:

I can confirm myself that the blu-ray releases restore the music in both the US Mill Creek release and the UK Fabulous Films release, however both releases are not 100% the same

On the US Mill Creek release, the episodes Genesis, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Trilogy Parts 2 and 3 (originally parts 2 and 3 were edited together into one movie) are presented in their syndicated two part versions, as the original NBC versions were movie versions. On the UK Fabulous Films release, Genesis and Lee Harvey Oswald are both restored to their original movie versions, however parts 2 and 3 of Trilogy still remain in their split form.

From what I know, the original movie version of Trilogy Parts 2 and 3 have never been seen outside of the original NBC broadcast, and even the original Universal DVD releases had it split into the two part version (though the same DVD release presented Genesis and Lee Harvey Oswald in their movie versions).

Cheers Doug, I’ll update my list accordingly.

Thanks, that’s very nice of you.

Ok, when you do get the chance, can you let me know please?

I saw Superman III on ITV (UK) during the 80s and from what I remember and the description on IMDB and the clips I’ve seen on YouTube, it was identical to the ABC TV version.

RandallFloyd said:

Superman III (1983) - ABC TV, no commercials (2 DVD)
Superman III (1983) - International TV Version (PC Authored)

What’s the difference between the two?

lilmanjs said:

Mill Creek claims that Quantum Leap is back to the original form on their blu ray release. I haven’t seen the dvd releases to know if true or not, but the licensed music is still there. I have yet to get through the entire series though.

If you can confirm that the original music has been restored, I’ll update my list.

Thanks for the info. 😃

crissrudd4554 said:

JayArgonaut said:
Married… With Children: Sinatra’s “Love and Marriage” was replaced with an instrumental version on the season three DVD.

That was on the Sony releases. The remaining seasons also had the song replaced. Also it wasn’t even an instrumental version of that song. It was a completely different piece of music.

It borrows somewhat from the original but veers away enough to avoid having to pay royalties. 😄

They could’ve hired session musicians to perform an instrumental, unless even paying the publishing was just too much…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ZdSuAyBeU

crissrudd4554 said:

Fortunately this isn’t an issue in the Mill Creek releases.

The Mill Creek releases have restored the original song throughout? If so, I’ll update my post.

Bluto said:

Is your VHS missing Jango Fett’s headbutts in the fight with Obi-Wan? I seem to remember buying the Australian DVD rather than the UK DVD in circa 2003 for that very reason.

Out of interest, is the UK Blu-Ray of AOTC cut, too? I have never watched the prequels on Blu-Ray.

Bluto

Yes the VHS release is censored for that scene, as with the UK DVD and the UK theatrical release. I ended up finding the German R2, for the same reason as yourself. The cut was waived for the UK Blu-ray release:

https://www.melonfarmers.co.uk/hitss_st.htm#star_wars_episode_2_attack_of_the_clones

Strangely though, ITV airs the censored version of AOTC from what appears to be a post-2012 Disney master.