does anyone know where to find the 80’s censored for the cbs tv version of the The Exorcist? supposedly it has alternate dialog.
Seems to be confirmed below. Apparently Friedkin prepared the TV version himself.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070047/alternateversions?ref_=tt_ql_trv_5
The entry for The Phantom Edit has not been removed, it was moved to the trivia section: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/trivia
So it actually has been removed from the section after all?
Anyway, you win.
Happy now? Now you can feel big. Enjoy the day. 😉
Maybe, but the entry for The Phantom Edit has also been removed and that was certainly not wrong. We definitely know that exists…
I’ve been searching on Internet Web Archive (web.archive.org), there are regular backups of the “alternate versions” page since 2003.
I found no mention of any differences on the VHS on any backup of that page. Actually, IMDB doesn’t talk about the VHS release at all.
Yes, I had also checked the Archive in the hope that it would be there. Unfortunately, it appears that the archiving began after the entry was removed.
By memory there’s a very slighty different shot of Darth Maul during the final duel on the pan and scan version
In many years past, I remember seeing that listed within the IMDBs Alternate Versions section for TPM.
Just don’t get in an altercation over the alterations 😃 Interesting thread .
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I look forward to seeing them.
Will they include further V2000 releases - and, do you personally own the Star Wars V2000 tapes? 😄
I haven’t had that kind of luck though. I had to resort to buying most of these.
Wait: you had to purchase most of them?
What’s really annoying about that is the near certainty that whoever they are very likely obtained them for free from communities like this in the first place…
Another entry is The Wackness (2008). Its original cut was screened at Sundance but due to an inability to licence many of the songs that were used on the soundtrack, it has never been exhibited since. A re-edited version featuring a largely different soundtrack was released on home video - and aired on BBC Two.
My favourite example is the 1987 BBC TV film Coast to Coast. It has never received a home video release and according to the distributor and a co-star, it never will because the cost of re-licencing the Motown laden soundtrack would not be economically viable.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090858/
Dancing in the Street aka Rock & Roll (1996). A stupendous PBS/BBC produced documentary on the history of Rock & Roll and its derivatives. There was a UK VHS release but it has never officially seen the light of day on DVD - or any other digital format and the volume of music involved means that this situation is highly unlikely to ever change.
I’ll have to check the Bonanza airings on CBS Justice to see if they’ve managed to escape this revision.
The Ballad of Jed Clampett has been replaced on the public domain sourced episodes of The Beverly Hillbillies due to copyright issues. Reportedly it has been restored for the official DVD releases by CBS but season four does contain other music changes.
Nothing is safe!
Interesting comparison of the pan and scanning choices between the two versions. The differences in the colour timing are also extremely striking. I think that I prefer the 1985 master for the most part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-g_PQe9iHE
For those who own the P&S Laserdiscs, can you confirm whether they use the same masters as the versions shown in this comparison, or are they framed differently? How about the ABC-TV version also?
I can confirm myself that the blu-ray releases restore the music in both the US Mill Creek release and the UK Fabulous Films release, however both releases are not 100% the same
On the US Mill Creek release, the episodes Genesis, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Trilogy Parts 2 and 3 (originally parts 2 and 3 were edited together into one movie) are presented in their syndicated two part versions, as the original NBC versions were movie versions. On the UK Fabulous Films release, Genesis and Lee Harvey Oswald are both restored to their original movie versions, however parts 2 and 3 of Trilogy still remain in their split form.
From what I know, the original movie version of Trilogy Parts 2 and 3 have never been seen outside of the original NBC broadcast, and even the original Universal DVD releases had it split into the two part version (though the same DVD release presented Genesis and Lee Harvey Oswald in their movie versions).
Cheers Doug, I’ll update my list accordingly.
Thanks, that’s very nice of you.
Ok, when you do get the chance, can you let me know please?
I saw Superman III on ITV (UK) during the 80s and from what I remember and the description on IMDB and the clips I’ve seen on YouTube, it was identical to the ABC TV version.
Superman III (1983) - ABC TV, no commercials (2 DVD)
Superman III (1983) - International TV Version (PC Authored)
What’s the difference between the two?
Mill Creek claims that Quantum Leap is back to the original form on their blu ray release. I haven’t seen the dvd releases to know if true or not, but the licensed music is still there. I have yet to get through the entire series though.
If you can confirm that the original music has been restored, I’ll update my list.
Thanks for the info. 😃
JayArgonaut said:
Married… With Children: Sinatra’s “Love and Marriage” was replaced with an instrumental version on the season three DVD.That was on the Sony releases. The remaining seasons also had the song replaced. Also it wasn’t even an instrumental version of that song. It was a completely different piece of music.
It borrows somewhat from the original but veers away enough to avoid having to pay royalties. 😄
They could’ve hired session musicians to perform an instrumental, unless even paying the publishing was just too much…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ZdSuAyBeU
Fortunately this isn’t an issue in the Mill Creek releases.
The Mill Creek releases have restored the original song throughout? If so, I’ll update my post.
Is your VHS missing Jango Fett’s headbutts in the fight with Obi-Wan? I seem to remember buying the Australian DVD rather than the UK DVD in circa 2003 for that very reason.
Out of interest, is the UK Blu-Ray of AOTC cut, too? I have never watched the prequels on Blu-Ray.
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Yes the VHS release is censored for that scene, as with the UK DVD and the UK theatrical release. I ended up finding the German R2, for the same reason as yourself. The cut was waived for the UK Blu-ray release:
https://www.melonfarmers.co.uk/hitss_st.htm#star_wars_episode_2_attack_of_the_clones
Strangely though, ITV airs the censored version of AOTC from what appears to be a post-2012 Disney master.
and this is that featurette…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQzltwQwJxg
Thanks, I’ve never seen this before.
I haven’t watched it in years but from I remember, my AOTC UK VHS cassette is sourced from the same master as the censored UK DVD.
Northern Exposure: as above.
Northern Exposure is available with original music intact on the German Turbine DVD set and also the UK Blu Ray set.
That’s good news! I’ll remove it from my list. 😃
He has also stated that the 16:9 version is the one that he found himself “falling in love with” and that’s why he chose it for home video and TV.
Cheers: numerous soundtrack substitutions for the DVD releases.
Dawson’s Creek: as above.
Charmed: the Netflix version contains numerous soundtrack substitutions.
Sabrina the Teenage Witch: severe edits to the DVD versions to remove music, including footage with guests stars.
Roswell: much of the soundtrack has been substituted throughout the DVD releases, along with the Hulu versions also.
Hi, I’m a big fan of James Cameron and find it quite shocking that there’s no copy available of the THEATRICAL CUT of AVATAR as it was shown in 2D cinemas in its original CINEMASCOPE 2.39 aspect ratio. Specially given that Cameron himself has said multiple times that it is how it was originally framed and his preferred aspect ratio for 2D screening (and frankly, much superior and cinematic).
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tachikoma said:
Given that 10 years have passed since the movie opened and there are still no plans for a cinemascope release, it’s up to us to preserve AVATAR as it was originally intended.
Are you referring to the 3D version, rather than the 2D release? Here’s a 2010 interview with Collider where Cameron confirms that the 16:9 aspect ratio is his preferred format of presentation for the 2D release:
http://collider.com/james-cameron-interview-avatar-blu-ray-also-talks-titanic-3d-and-avatar-2/
What do you think the best format is to view this film in?
Cameron: The film was released in two formats. We released it in 16×9 and cinemascope aspect ratio. Obviously, the 35 mm prints were all in the scope ratio and with the IMAX stuff, we tried to take advantage of the height. The highest and best format for this movie is the 16×9, which plays beautifully. We finished the picture in 16×9 and then we vertically extracted the cinemascope when we were mastering the film for theatrical release.
In the theatrical release of the movie, it played in 3-D in non-IMAX digital theaters in both formats. We did that by selecting whichever theater was going to look best in which format. But, for the home, we wanted to go with the full picture. I really think it helps, with the sense of vertigo underneath the flying creatures, to have that little bit of extra frame down there, when they’re looking down over cliffs. It enhances the sense of height.
Even though I love the cinemascope ratio compositionally, I actually found myself falling in love with the movie in 16×9, as we went along, and I prefer to watch it in that. Everyone thought the best viewing conditions for the movie were in 3-D, but in 3-D what we struggled with was the light levels. We struggled to get the light levels up, in the theaters. You get such a bright, crisp, dynamic picture on the DVD and Blu-ray. Something actually comes back to the viewing experience that you don’t get in the theaters, with the colors and the strength of the contrast.
Wow, it seems that almost nothing is untouched.
Tales from the Darkside:
The DVD release contains an altered soundtrack without the original music score. Episodes released on VHS during the 1980s do contain the original music score throughout.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_from_the_Darkside#DVD_releases
Horror (UK) aired the entire run and I was initially planning to record the whole lot but I had nothing to compare the broadcasts with to confirm that they contained the original music score.
The Curse of Steptoe: increasingly censored during re-broadcasts after complaints from the brother-in-law of Harry H. Corbett regarding the portrayal of Corbett’s second wife, with these cuts carrying over to the DVD - which was subsequently pulled from sale by the BBC.
Peaky Blinders: soundtrack substitutions on the US Netflix versions.