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#1274756
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Hateful 8 Roadshow Cut
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I saw the 70mm Roadshow version at Odeon Leicester Square and after learning about this situation, I’m very much glad that I got to enjoy the film in its full glory. If I’d purchased the Blu-ray, I would have been extremely disappointed not to receive the best cut. We’ll know for certain on Monday as to whether Netflix have the extended version. Fingers crossed. 😃

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Dr. No Rare Uncut Version 1st Beta/VHS release 1982
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Thanks for the clarification and the offer, that’s very nice of you. Yeah, count me in, I would definitely like to see this version. It was very likely the version that I would have seen on ITV (UK) during the 80s but I didn’t pay that much attention to Bond films back then. 😃

What’s your verdict on the 1.66:1 LD’s vs the DVDs and Blu-ray releases, out of curiosity?

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Dr. No Rare Uncut Version 1st Beta/VHS release 1982
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I don’t know how accurate these anecdotes are, especially given the myths regarding Dr No but perhaps others can clarify?

https://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/467998-what-original-aspect-ratio-island-earth.html#post7059959

https://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/467998-what-original-aspect-ratio-island-earth.html#post7060685

I never saw the laser disc versions of Dr. No and From Russia With Love so I can’t comment on the framing, but the DVD of Goldfinger is the same 1.66 as the 30th Anniversary Laser Disc (I believe the movie was released in 1.66:1). I did notice differences in some of the video versions of the Bond movies, especially Thunderball, which has VHS versions missing some music and a line uttered while Bond and Leiter are in the helicopter, but spoken by another character (presumably they wanted us to think it was Leiter who spoke the line). Also there are two versions of the line Bond speaks when he emerges from Largo’s shark pool. The current dvd has the music replaced and the “manta ray” line removed, but it has a different version of the 007 music from the original film, and which also is in the new edition of the soundtrack CD.

The line where Bond emerges from Largo’s shark pool: One version is “Now you can tell them about the one that got away” the other is “better luck next time”. All the old CBS/FOX video versions had one version, since MGM/UA took over it has been the alternate version.

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#1273092
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Analog Releases of Films That Contain Deleted, Extended, & Alternate Footage That've Never Been Released on DVD/BluRay
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Tantive3+1 said:

Does anyone know which of The Godfather laserdisc versions contain exclusive additional footage?

I know the fan edit the Chronological Epic from modernknife used shots from a laserdisc release but I don’t know which one(s).

That, I cannot answer, but I do know that according to a Paramount insider, the 1980 home video releases of The Godfather and Part II contain footage - albeit brief, that is absent from all subsequent home video releases: due to the studio’s careless treatment of the negatives during the mid 80s whilst they were preparing a new transfer.

Source: http://godfathermuseum.blogspot.com/2015/03/screen-shots-and-technical-errata.html

The first transfers were done in 1980 for VHS, CED, and Laserdisc. The original negatives had been used to strike new prints as Parts 1 and 2 were re-issued several times throughout the 70’s and so by the time that they had already been run through the ringer. So even on those first home video releases the print looked like shit. They made a transfer from the negatives onto U-Matic tape.

Paramount was reissuing most of their catalog and Part I and II needed a new transfer… They couldn’t find the interpositive [a first-gen dupe of the original negative] so they glued the negative back together with chewing gum and scotch tape. Only a slight exaggeration. And they complete fucking ruined the negative in the process.

So that’s why you have more visual information in the first-gen releases, simply put the dissolve doesn’t completely mask the image like it does in the second gen transfer. I would guesstimate that for every scene with a dissolve, you’re missing about three feet of footage [about 2 seconds of runtime]. That footage is gone. For good. And the Restoration edition comes from those same botched negatives. They’re only preserved on those first gen home video releases.

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#1272479
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I want to download the Despecialized Editions, but...
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ChainsawAsh said:

Get uBlock Origin and leave it on any time you’re visiting a site that offers legally-dubious content. Because those kind of sites aren’t going to be doing much vetting of who they’re selling their ad space to as long as the checks clear.

Good suggestion, I’ve now replaced ABP with uBlock Origin on my driver and there’s a marked improvement in web browsing speed. However, on my computer that I use for visiting sites that offer “legally-dubious content”, ABP is much better at preventing pop-up windows from opening. 😃

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#1271464
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Goldfinger Theatrical UK version
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kchrules said:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058150/alternateversions

and this 16mm clip on eBay which I can’t afford: https://www.ebay.com/itm/16mm-IB-TECH-Film-CLIP-GOLDFINGER-1964-James-Bond-003-Now-with-DIAMONDS/113659583367

Wow! 😮

I love this site, every day is a revelation and education on my favourite films. Is there no way that we could create this version ourselves through dabbling with visual effects and motion graphics software?

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#1271084
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Analog Releases of Films That Contain Deleted, Extended, & Alternate Footage That've Never Been Released on DVD/BluRay
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Another classic example…

The 1999 VHS re-release of The Rescuers was infamously withdrawn from sale and Disney issued a recall-exchange on sold copies after the image of a topless woman was discovered within a scene.

https://www.apnews.com/a7bbd4ded93b44288336c1f9ae0b7d60

Again, surprised that no-one else had mentioned this one already: pre-1998 home video releases of American Graffiti contain the original opening shot of the restaurant, which was revised for the 25th anniversary with the addition of a CGI sunset.

http://kipsamericangraffiti.blogspot.com/2010/12/trivia-revising-american-graffiti.html

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#1270949
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Analog Releases of Films That Contain Deleted, Extended, & Alternate Footage That've Never Been Released on DVD/BluRay
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I’m surprised that this one hadn’t been mentioned already: the analogue home video versions (BETA, VHS, LD, CED, VHD) of Back to the Future, featured the closing card below that confirmed plans for sequels.

BTTF TBC

The “Special Longer Version” of Star Trek: TMP as seen on TV, VHS, BETA, VHD and LD, has never been (officially) released on digital home video. It differs from both the Director’s Edition and the theatrical version.

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#1267120
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Dr. No Rare Uncut Version 1st Beta/VHS release 1982
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Uh, S.W. that link directs to an entirely different but certainly interesting “feature”, perhaps worthy of a preservation in itself. 😄

😃 Here’s the correct URL, I hope:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/35mm-Feature-The-Man-with-the-Golden-Gun-Complete-James-Bond-Roger-Moore-1974-/254028497820?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true

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