Williarob, that was a fascinating read, thanks not only for writing it but taking the time and effort to bury this urban legend once and for all. Posts like that are why I enjoy being a member of this site. 😃
Poita, I hope that your mum is on the mend very soon.
I’ve never heard of an Xbone before. 😜
😮 Me? No, I wish I had that kind of money to spare right now!
I meant would you be curious enough to tackle such a project at some point?
Curious enough to consider creating such a version?
Uh, S.W. that link directs to an entirely different but certainly interesting “feature”, perhaps worthy of a preservation in itself. 😄
😃 Here’s the correct URL, I hope:
TMWTGG is among the tapes that Williarob bought, so maybe they can confirm this for you. 😃
Shades of SuperShadow. 😄
Also, somebody on this forum bought one of these '82 tapes and says it is censored the same as the rest, despite what is claimed in the MI6 thread:
Perhaps it is just a rumor started by somebody who wanted to jack up the price of his old VHS tape on eBay 😉
I’d still like to see the tape though, if only to debunk the rumour once and for all, so my offer to buy that lot still stands. (I believe the fact that the Dr No tape has a 20th Century Fox label, rather than a CBS/Fox label proves it is an '82 tape and not an '84)
I for one, look forward to reading your article on this topic. It was quite telling that the person in question, shared other Bond material throughout the thread - but yet nothing connected to the '82 tape, not even a phone recording of the TV screen showing the uncensored scenes. Also, they didn’t respond when other posters expressed an interest in seeing the release digitised and shared. 😃
Neither do I and any machine that I could even obtain over here would likely be PAL.
Perhaps a member of the community with a BETA VCR could help out?
JEDIT: removed misleading eBay listing.
Some potential leads, with this one being a very strong candidate (albeit expensive) for the release that you seek:
There are also these CBS-FOX releases from 1984, much cheaper, but very likely censored, given what you have you described with the subsequent home video versions:
The Complete Novel is seen as a novelty style release and not a “Lucas-y” replacement. Coppola allowed the release of theatrical version of Apocalypse Now, so he’s above that type of thinking. The reason there’s a HD master is because when the film plays on television, they will have the original theatrical version instead of an extended version.
Not necessarily, because in the past ten years, whenever I’ve seen The Outsiders and Apocalypse Now on TV, they have always been the extended versions. Coppola is not entirely above the Lucas “type of thinking”, because he and Paramount destroyed the original negatives for the Godfather films, so that only the 2008 restoration masters are available.
When the BBC have aired Warner title, Amadeus in recent years, it has always been the director’s cut. There’s several other films with similar situations regarding TV airings.
I love this thread. 😃
Yes, DVB transmissions started around 2004 IIRC, and DVD recorders were available around that year…
The only way to have an high quality OT version - but I strongly doubt it was transmitted - is a D2MAC european satellite broadcast, and a S-VHS (or other high resolution tape recorder) or a MUSE japanese satellite broadcast (using an high def master) and a W-VHS recorder… well, dream is still free - for the moment!
In Italy? Here in the UK, DVB transmissions began in the late 90s. I remember selling the DVB set-top boxes back then during my wonderful time in retail. 😉
OK, I searched all the web, from the surface to the deep, and still not found an MPEG2 version of EP1… or, better, there was at least a small version, around 9GB, but I guess there should be another - like the Cinemax ones - around 16/17GB… if someone is aware of its existence, please let me know.
Plus, it will be great to have a confirmation that there is an HDTV of the EP1 theatrical version - as it should have been broadcasted, following few scarces sources - while it seems there were no 1997 SE HDTV broadcast record - even if there are rumors that EP4 and EP5 were transmitted in UK, while EP6 was the 2004 version.
I can confirm that ITV aired IV-V-VI in 2002. I recorded EP-V onto VHS via my (SDTV) DVB set-top box during that run. I’ve still got the cassette somewhere. It was the 1997 SE version and they were all cropped to fill 16:9. The post 2004 ITV airings used the 2004 versions and as mentioned before, ITV now airs the post Disney sale versions with the revised Lucasfilm intro.
Here’s a clip from the intro to a recording of the TESB airing.
What’s wrong with the Blu-ray that a preservation would be required?
The Digital Bits awarded it an A+
You’re welcome. 😃 Mediainfo doesn’t tell me the exact audio and video bitrates for .TS files. If you know of a program that can, let me know and I’ll check them again.
Audio: English, 48.0 khz, 2 channels, AAC LC (LATM)
Audio #2: English, 48.0 khz, 1 channel, AAC LC SBR - visual impaired commentary*
Compression mode: Lossy
Bit rate mode: variable
DVB Subtitles: English
TPM: Overall bit rate: 3,759 kb/s
AOTC: Overall bit rate: 3,453 kb/s
ROTS: Overall bit rate: 4,125 kb/s
TESB: Overall bit rate: 4,091 kb/s
*Only TESB has the visual impaired commentary track.
Unfortunately, I don’t have all of them. I recorded Episodes I, II, II and V during 2018.
The broadcasts all share the same technical stats:
Video: H264 - MPEG-4 AVC 1920x1080 25fps.
Audio: AAC (mp4a) 48000Hz (TESB also includes a 2nd audio track with a visual impaired commentary.)
Subtitles: DVB Subtitles.
TPM: 4.074 GB
AOTC: 3.758 GB
ROTS: 4.595 GB
TESB: 4.434 GB
The file sizes would be even smaller if the adverts were removed, so these are very likely on the lower end of quality, compared to the other HDTV recordings, but here’s some samples for you to judge.
There’s also the ITV broadcasts too, if you’re interested? Previously, they were cropped to fill 16:9 but in the past 2 years, at least, the films have been shown in their OAR and appear to have been sourced from the same masters as the Blu-ray and post-Disney purchase.
Checked my EPG, saw that this was going to air and recorded it. 😃
I’m well aware of that and never claimed otherwise.
HD LDs do exist, contrary to what was stated earlier.
Some Laserdiscs are HD…
Yeah, I saw it on my EPG but I already recorded the Channel 4 HD airing last June and the Sky Movies broadcast that x5gb mentioned is much better quality. 😃
Oh no, please don’t bring this nonsense here. Your threads were removed for good reason. 2 Years of spamming vaporware projects with nothing to show for it.
These KTP collections are so absurdly broad and ambitions but with zero details of what you plan to do or how to do it. We don’t need these here.
To learn more about what you refer to, I visited Fanres and had a look at the threads.
Ok, cool. Look forward to it. 😃
Is it possible for you to share some screengrabs of the different sources please? I am curious to see the varying contrasts of colour etc. between the releases.
Badum tssshhhhh! 😉