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Definitely one of the best of '05.
Definitely one of the best of '05.
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Definitely one of the best of '05.
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Hasbro’s releasing a line of Star Wars Transformers figures. IGN Article.
The second wave is going to have Boba Fett and Darth Maul!
So, what do you guys think about this? Personally, I think it’s a bit random, but still pretty cool.
By the way, what’s up with Vader having a shield?
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- #170790
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- Anomalous phenomenon thread
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
Like the 1980's movie kind?
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
That's not anomalous, Sean! Everyone knows the Gremlins are to blame for that!
That's not anomalous, Sean! Everyone knows the Gremlins are to blame for that!
Like the 1980's movie kind?
No, like the Bugs Bunny kind.
Or that old disney channel show So Weird kind.
William Shatner on a plane kind also works, but not as well.
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- #169921
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Anyway, I haven't had any experiences or encounters regarding Ghosts or Spirits, but I'm pretty open to the idea that they exist. As for UFOs, my brother claims that he's seen two. I definitely think that there's other life out there, but I don't really know if I believe in these FLYING SAUCER stories.
I don't know if this counts, but one unexplained thing that I'm very interested in is the Loch Ness Monster and Bigfoot. Basically just cryptozoology in general. I've done lots of research on the matter, and it just fascinates me that there could still be animals out there that we have yet to discover. People say space is the final frontier, but there's actually quite a bit of Earth that has yet to be extensively explored and studied!
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- #169337
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- Best movies of 05
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Originally posted by: sybeman
Who's to say Gundark didn't care to see Titanic or Romeo and Juliet either? Maybe "gay cowboys" isn't the issue for him. Leave the guy alone. He's allowed to voice his opinion just as anyone else. I don't care to see it either, and it's not because of homophopia, but because the film was in developmental hell since the script was written in 1997 (!) because nobody wanted to play a "gay cowboy".
Of course he can voice his opinion, obviously. But, if someone came in here and said "I'm not going to see {insert movie}, because it has a black person in it and I have no interest in watching black people!" don't you think the general populace of this board would think that's a terrible opinion and try to counter argue? That's what I'm doing here. Also, if he's an "all thing film junkie," wouldn't you be willing to bet he's watched, liked, and maybe even BAUGHT a dramatic love story before? I know this is nothing but an assumption, but one with a pretty high margin of correctness.
Looking through Gundark's DVD collection, I found some movies of interest.
1. Austin Powers in Goldmember. This movie is CHALK FULL of sexual innuendo, references, and jokes. He said he didn't like the idea of a "gay cowboy movie" because the attitude seems to be "let's invite everybody into the bedroom to watch!" So it seems like he doesn't want to see it because he has a moral objection to movies putting sex into the public eye. But 75% of Austin Powers is sex jokes.
2. Possession. Genres: Romance.
3. High Fidelity. Genres: Romantic Comedy.
4. Edward Scissorhands. Genres: Dramatic Romance/Fantasy.
5. Clueless. I haven't seen this movie in years, but from what I remember, isn't there a girl going around the whole time bragging about how she's had sex all over the place, and she becomes the popular girl? So... a movie potraying sex as a means of gaining POPULARITY is worth buying, but a movie about a frustrating, confusing, dramatic, romantic relationship between two guys is NO SIR NOT GONNA SEE IT!!!
6. The Virgin Suicides. Now to be fair, I know nothing about this movie, except what I read about it on Gundark's info page. But after reading the story summary, looking at the rating, and taking into account the name... I'm willing to bet there is at least some sex-related moments in the movie.
Anyway, that's actually all I could find... I was surprised, I thought there'd be a lot more, but most of it was just cartoons. Although, I did find Run Lola Run, and that surprised me. That's a really cool movie.
Moving on to the second half of your post, sybeman.
It shouldn't be a big deal, but it is. Some day, hopefully, we'll get to a point in our society where going to see a movie about two guys or two girls, will just be... going to see a movie. It won't be different. It won't be weird. It'll just be going to see a movie. But, that doesn't change the fact that, CURRENTLY, in our current society, going to see a movie about two homosexuals is a BIG DEAL. And the reason it's a big deal? Because of people like Gundark or Darth Chaltab who don't want to see it, JUST BECAUSE it's about homosexuals. They haven't listed ANY OTHER REASON not to see it, other than the fact that it's about homosexuals. If people keep having attitudes like that, then we're never gonna get to the point of where going to see a movie about two guys or two girls, will just be going to see a movie.
Yes. It's not about homophobia, though. Some people find it morally offensive, others see it as essentially gay propaganda. Not everyone who dissaproves of homsexuality FEARS them you know.
Who's to say Gundark didn't care to see Titanic or Romeo and Juliet either? Maybe "gay cowboys" isn't the issue for him. Leave the guy alone. He's allowed to voice his opinion just as anyone else. I don't care to see it either, and it's not because of homophopia, but because the film was in developmental hell since the script was written in 1997 (!) because nobody wanted to play a "gay cowboy".
Of course he can voice his opinion, obviously. But, if someone came in here and said "I'm not going to see {insert movie}, because it has a black person in it and I have no interest in watching black people!" don't you think the general populace of this board would think that's a terrible opinion and try to counter argue? That's what I'm doing here. Also, if he's an "all thing film junkie," wouldn't you be willing to bet he's watched, liked, and maybe even BAUGHT a dramatic love story before? I know this is nothing but an assumption, but one with a pretty high margin of correctness.
Looking through Gundark's DVD collection, I found some movies of interest.
1. Austin Powers in Goldmember. This movie is CHALK FULL of sexual innuendo, references, and jokes. He said he didn't like the idea of a "gay cowboy movie" because the attitude seems to be "let's invite everybody into the bedroom to watch!" So it seems like he doesn't want to see it because he has a moral objection to movies putting sex into the public eye. But 75% of Austin Powers is sex jokes.
2. Possession. Genres: Romance.
3. High Fidelity. Genres: Romantic Comedy.
4. Edward Scissorhands. Genres: Dramatic Romance/Fantasy.
5. Clueless. I haven't seen this movie in years, but from what I remember, isn't there a girl going around the whole time bragging about how she's had sex all over the place, and she becomes the popular girl? So... a movie potraying sex as a means of gaining POPULARITY is worth buying, but a movie about a frustrating, confusing, dramatic, romantic relationship between two guys is NO SIR NOT GONNA SEE IT!!!
6. The Virgin Suicides. Now to be fair, I know nothing about this movie, except what I read about it on Gundark's info page. But after reading the story summary, looking at the rating, and taking into account the name... I'm willing to bet there is at least some sex-related moments in the movie.
Anyway, that's actually all I could find... I was surprised, I thought there'd be a lot more, but most of it was just cartoons. Although, I did find Run Lola Run, and that surprised me. That's a really cool movie.
Moving on to the second half of your post, sybeman.
Originally posted by: sybeman
Now, Jake and Heath take it on, and they're getting heaps of praise and Oscar attention for "having the balls to be gay." I don't disagree that "it's actually a good thing that films like this are being made," as you say, but I don't think it's a big deal. It's just a movie.
Now, Jake and Heath take it on, and they're getting heaps of praise and Oscar attention for "having the balls to be gay." I don't disagree that "it's actually a good thing that films like this are being made," as you say, but I don't think it's a big deal. It's just a movie.
It shouldn't be a big deal, but it is. Some day, hopefully, we'll get to a point in our society where going to see a movie about two guys or two girls, will just be... going to see a movie. It won't be different. It won't be weird. It'll just be going to see a movie. But, that doesn't change the fact that, CURRENTLY, in our current society, going to see a movie about two homosexuals is a BIG DEAL. And the reason it's a big deal? Because of people like Gundark or Darth Chaltab who don't want to see it, JUST BECAUSE it's about homosexuals. They haven't listed ANY OTHER REASON not to see it, other than the fact that it's about homosexuals. If people keep having attitudes like that, then we're never gonna get to the point of where going to see a movie about two guys or two girls, will just be going to see a movie.
Yes. It's not about homophobia, though. Some people find it morally offensive, others see it as essentially gay propaganda. Not everyone who dissaproves of homsexuality FEARS them you know.
Like ricarleite said, it's not quite fear, but an absolute intolerance. The word homophobia is usually used to describe someone who looks down upon, thinks differently of, or in general doesn't like, homosexuals.
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- #169175
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- Best movies of 05
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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
Homophobia has nothing to do with it. I simply have no interest in seeing a "gay cowboy movie" and see no reason for its existence. The first steps towards decriminalizing homosexuality in Canada were made under the rubric that "Government has no business in the bedrooms of the nation." The attitude now seems to be, "Let's rip the doors off the bedrooms and invite everybody in!"
Not my cuppa.
Originally posted by: ricarleite
... and we return with more Homophobia, here on OT dot com.
Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
I wouldn't see it if it was gays or lesbians. Doesn't matter. I have no interest in seeing Buttf%@k Mountain.
I wouldn't see it if it was gays or lesbians. Doesn't matter. I have no interest in seeing Buttf%@k Mountain.
... and we return with more Homophobia, here on OT dot com.
Homophobia has nothing to do with it. I simply have no interest in seeing a "gay cowboy movie" and see no reason for its existence. The first steps towards decriminalizing homosexuality in Canada were made under the rubric that "Government has no business in the bedrooms of the nation." The attitude now seems to be, "Let's rip the doors off the bedrooms and invite everybody in!"
Not my cuppa.
The movie isn't any different than something like TITANIC or ROMEO AND JULIET. It's a dramatic love story. The only difference is that it's between two guys instead of a guy and a girl. People have been writing, and watching dramatic love stories for hundreds of years. So why is this one all of a sudden BAD? Because it's about homosexuals? Sounds like homophobia DOES have something to do with it...
Besides, it's actually a good thing films like this are being made. People who are homophobic usually have very little knowledge of what they "disagree with." Movies like this help people become more aware, more tolerant and more open minded. If people just IGNORED homosexuality, then that wouldn't help prevent homophobia at all, would it?
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- #169164
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- Best movies of 05
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/169164/action/topic#169164
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
I can't believe some of what I just read.
Actually, yes I can.
I can't believe some of what I just read.
Actually, yes I can.
Hahahaha, that's exactly what I was thinking. Honestly YIYF, I'm glad I've finally found someone at this forum who's on the same page as me.
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- #168428
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- Best movies of 05
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Did anyone here see Brokeback Mountain?
Did anyone here see Brokeback Mountain?
I wanted to, but I never got the chance. I hate how I don't live close to any big cities, so I always miss movies which are select cities only. I'm going to have to wait to catch both Brokeback Mountain and Munich on DVD. The Fountain is probably the only movie which I'll be willing to drive several hours to see, if it ends up coming out in select cities only (which it probably will).
But anyway, I'm glad Ang Lee is recovering from The Hulk. Brokeback Mountain has been getting him some massive critical acclaim. I definitely thought that he was gone forever after The Hulk, but all of a sudden, he's back in the spotlight.
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- #166438
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- mp3 playlist
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- #166364
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- mp3 playlist
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166364/action/topic#166364
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1. ACDC - Back in Black (4:14)
2. ACDC - TNT (3:34)
3. Akon - lonely -21st (3:57)
4. Aqua - Dr Jones (3:23)
5. Aqua - Heat of the Night (3:34)
6. ATC (La La La La) - Around The World (3:33)
7. Black Eyed Peas - Don't Phunk With My Heart (4:01)
8. Black Eyed Peas - Let's Get It Started (3:37)
9. Blind Guardian - Bright Eyes (5:15)
10. Blind Guardian - Mirror Mirror (5:05)
11. Blind Guardian - The Bard's Song (3:10)
12. Bon Jovi - Living On A Prayer (4:10)
13. Bon Jovi - You Give Love A Bad Name (3:44)
14. Brink - Sooner or Later (2:41)
15. Caesars Palace - jerk it out (3:18)
16. chumba wumba - I get knocked down (3:32)
17. Civ4 - OpeningMenu (3:28)
18. Coheed And Cambria - Three Evils (Embodied In Love (5:09)
19. Coldplay - Speed Of Sound (4:49)
20. Cyndi Lauper - Goonies Theme (2:50)
21. Daft Punk - Around the World (7:08)
22. Daft Punk - technologic (4:44)
23. Daler Mehndi - Tunak Tunak Tun (5:01)
24. dance dance revolution - dub i dub (radio mix) (3:21)
25. DJ Sammy - Heaven (3:52)
26. Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons (23:06)
27. Dream Theater - Caught In A Web (5:28)
28. Dream Theater - New Millennium (8:19)
29. Dream Theater - The Mirror (6:45)
30. Dropkick Murphys - Amazing Grace (2:38)
31. Efiel 65 - Blue (4:46)
32. Eminem - Just Lose It (4:07)
33. Epica - Center Of The Universe (5:26)
34. Epica - Sensorium (4:48)
35. Europe - The Final Countdown (5:09)
36. Eurythmics - Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams Are Made Of These (4:52)
37. Evanesence - I'm Going Under (3:36)
38. Evanesence - Wake me up (4:00)
39. Flash Dance - What A Feeling (3:54)
40. Flogging Molly - Seven Deadly Sins (2:50)
41. Gackt - Lu:Na (3:24)
42. Gackt - Mizerable (4:55)
43. Gackt - Vanilla (4:16)
44. Gob - Painted Black (3:13)
45. gorillaz - Feel Good Inc. (3:43)
46. Green Day - American Idiot (Album Version) (2:53)
47. Greenday - Basket Case (3:04)
48. GreenDay - Boulivard of Broken Dreams (4:20)
49. Greenday - Minority (2:51)
50. Greenday - Time of your life (3:04)
51. Greenday - When I come Around (3:00)
52. Gundam Seed - Ending Theme (4:49)
53. guns and roses - Stairway to Heaven (8:47)
54. Guns N Roses - Welcome to the Jungle (4:33)
55. Haddaway - What Is Love (4:31)
56. Happy Hardcore - Never Ending Story Techno Remix (3:13)
57. Hypocrisy - New World (4:09)
58. Hypocrisy - Slave to the Parasites (4:57)
59. Hypocrisy - The Abyss (4:29)
60. Hypocrisy - War within (4:51)
61. Jennifer Lopez - Get Right (3:45)
62. Jimmy Eat World - Alright (2:47)
63. Jimmy Eat World - Are You Listening (3:39)
64. Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire (2:37)
65. Kanye West - Jesus Walks (3:32)
66. Kanye West feat. Jay - Diamonds from Sierra Leone (Remix) (3:53)
67. Kayne West - Through The Wire (4:32)
68. kelly clarkson - since you've been gone (3:11)
69. Kernkraft 400 - Zombie Nation Remix (4:37)
70. Kidney Thieves - Before I'm Dead (4:41)
71. Kidney Thieves - Crazy (3:18)
72. Kidney Thieves - Glitter Girl (4:11)
73. Kidney Thieves - Zerospace (3:49)
74. Lindsay Lohan - Rumors (3:17)
75. Linkin park - In the End (3:38)
76. Linkin Park - Linkin Park - Breaking The Habit.mp3 (3:16)
77. Linkin Park - Numb (3:09)
78. machinae supremacy - cryosleep (5:49)
79. machinae supremacy - march of the undead (part2) (4:30)
80. machinae supremacy - nemesis (4:57)
81. Machinae Supremacy - Soundtrack To The Rebellion (5:56)
82. Marillion - The Great Escape (The Last Of You/Fallin' From The Moon) (6:30)
83. Maroon 5 - Maroon 5 - This Love (4:26)
84. Maroon 5 - She Will Be Loved (4:18)
85. Masterplan - Soulburn (6:17)
86. Masterplan - Spirit never die (2:50)
87. MC Hammer - Cant Touch This (4:17)
88. Michael Jackson - Thriller (5:57)
89. Muse - Time is Running Out (3:56)
90. Nightwish - 10th Man Down (5:19)
91. Nightwish - Away (4:33)
92. Nightwish - Ghost Love Score (10:02)
93. Nightwish - Lappi 1 Erämaajärvi (2:15)
94. Nightwish - Lappi 4 Etiäinen (2:34)
95. Nightwish - Over The Hills And Far Away (4:56)
96. Nightwish - Phantom Of The Opera (4:11)
97. Nightwish - The Crow and Warrior (4:20)
98. Nightwish - The Siren (4:45)
99. Nightwish - this moment is eternity (3:12)
100. Nightwish - Where Were You Last Night (3:52)
101. O-zone - numa numa iei.mp3 (3:38)
102. Offspring - highway (2:15)
103. Opeth - By the Pain I See in Others (13:48)
104. Opeth - Deliverance (13:34)
105. Opeth - Wreath (11:09)
106. Orbital - Halcyon & On & On (Hackers & Mortal Kombat Soundtrack) (9:28)
107. POD - Alive (3:23)
108. POD - Youth of the Nation (4:21)
109. Pokemon - TV Theme Song (Full) (2:33)
110. Powerman 5000 - Relax (3:05)
111. Proclaimers - I Would Walk 500 Miles (3:36)
112. Queen - I Want To Break Free (4:23)
113. r. kelly - Trapt in the closet 1-5 (16:12)
114. Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Can't Stop (4:29)
115. Requiem For A Dream - Main Theme (2:21)
116. Ricky Martin - Living La Vida Loca (4:06)
117. Rob Thomas - Lonely No More (3:47)
118. Scorpions - Rock You Like a Hurricane (4:16)
119. Sean Paul - Get Busy (3:34)
120. Simon - Get a Clue (3:18)
121. Stratovarius - Black Diamond (5:39)
122. Stratovarius - Coming Home (5:37)
123. Stratovarius - Eagleheart (3:45)
124. Stratovarius - Legions (5:42)
125. Stratovarius - Paradise (4:26)
126. Stratovarius - Visions (Southern Cross) (10:19)
127. Styx - Mr. Roboto (6:15)
128. System Of A Down - BYOB (4:01)
129. System Of A Down - Chop Suey (3:30)
130. System Of A Down - Toxicity (3:36)
131. Tatu - All The Things She Said (3:34)
132. The Cars - Just What I Needed (3:43)
133. the cranberries - Zombie (5:06)
134. The Doors - L.A. Woman (Paul Oakenfold Remix) (4:15)
135. The Doors - Painted Black (3:45)
136. The Killers - Mr. Brightside (remix) (3:44)
137. The killers - Somebody Told Me (3:13)
138. The Polyphonic Spree - Hold Me Now (Radio Edit) (4:06)
139. The Who - 1921 (2:25)
140. The Who - A Quick One, While He's Away (8:52)
141. The Who - Amazing Journey (3:17)
142. The Who - Baba O'Reilly (5:08)
143. The Who - Bargain (5:33)
144. The Who - Christmas (3:18)
145. The Who - Do You Think Its Alright? (0:22)
146. The Who - Eyesight To The Blind (The Hawker) (1:58)
147. The Who - Fiddle About (1:13)
148. The Who - FortuneTeller (2:35)
149. The Who - Go To The Mirror (3:24)
150. The Who - Happy Jack (2:13)
151. The Who - Heaven And Hell (5:07)
152. The Who - I Can't Explain (3:13)
153. The Who - I'm A Boy (7:46)
154. The Who - I'm Free (2:38)
155. The Who - It's A Boy (0:31)
156. The Who - Magic Bus (7:55)
157. The Who - Miracle Cure (0:12)
158. The Who - My Generation (15:48)
159. The Who - Overture (6:52)
160. The Who - Pinball Wizard (2:57)
161. The Who - Pinball Wizard (2:52)
162. The Who - Sally Simpson (4:00)
163. The Who - Shakin' All Over (4:34)
164. The Who - Smash The Mirror (1:18)
165. The Who - Sparks (4:22)
166. The Who - Substitute (2:07)
167. The Who - Summertime Blues (3:22)
168. The Who - Tattoo (3:42)
169. The Who - The Acid Queen (3:34)
170. The Who - There's A Doctor (0:23)
171. The Who - Tommy Can You Hear Me? (0:55)
172. The Who - Tommy's Holiday Camp (1:00)
173. The Who - We're Not Gonna Take It (8:47)
174. The Who - Young Man Blues (6:11)
175. Trans - Christmas - Trans-Siberian Orc (4:23)
176. Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Bethovens 5th (2:56)
177. Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Beethoven's Last (2:56)
178. Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Carol Of The Bells (3:18)
179. Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Clockwork Orange (3:08)
180. Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Requiem (2:58)
181. Transformers The Movie - Dare (4:02)
182. Twisted Sisters - We're Not Gonna Take It (3:39)
183. Under Oath - The Sun Still Sleeps (5:33)
184. Usher Feat. Lil' Jon and Ludac - Yeah (4:08)
185. vanessa may - Phantom of the opera (4:44)
186. Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby (4:26)
187. Weezer - Buddy Holly (2:39)
188. Wham - Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go (3:51)
189. William Shatner - Common People (4:40)
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- #165701
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- Family Guy
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/165701/action/topic#165701
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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
I used to watch this show all the time, but then it got really popular at my school and EVERYBODY started quoting it all the time ( like Napoleon Dynamite
), so I just stopped watching it out of frustration. I'll still watch it occasionally though and it never fails to amuse me.
I used to watch this show all the time, but then it got really popular at my school and EVERYBODY started quoting it all the time ( like Napoleon Dynamite
), so I just stopped watching it out of frustration. I'll still watch it occasionally though and it never fails to amuse me. This pretty much sums it up perfectly.
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- #164837
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- Micheal J. Fox in talks for a new BTTF?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/164837/action/topic#164837
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I guess I'm glad that it was debunked, but honestly, I'm pretty much indifferent to the whole thing.
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- #164331
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- Best movies of 05
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/164331/action/topic#164331
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
i think this movie is an either love it or hate it kinda movie...
very much like LOTR...
hardcore fans of LOTR very much dispised the movies because they did not hold true to Tolkiens writings...
just like us hardcore Star Wars fans dont care much for the PT...
I'm kinda baffled at the numerous people who say they didnt like the movie...
the main complaint being it was too long...
maybe i was more captivated by what was going on not to notice the length...
i mean we all knew it was going to be 3 hours so at least prepare yourself for a long movie rather than coming out and saying.. "man that was too long!"
but like i said people are going to either like it or not...
i think Jackson did a wonderful job on it and it really did exceed all my expectations..
FYI - can anyone smell an extended edition coming?
i think this movie is an either love it or hate it kinda movie...
very much like LOTR...
hardcore fans of LOTR very much dispised the movies because they did not hold true to Tolkiens writings...
just like us hardcore Star Wars fans dont care much for the PT...
I'm kinda baffled at the numerous people who say they didnt like the movie...
the main complaint being it was too long...
maybe i was more captivated by what was going on not to notice the length...
i mean we all knew it was going to be 3 hours so at least prepare yourself for a long movie rather than coming out and saying.. "man that was too long!"
but like i said people are going to either like it or not...
i think Jackson did a wonderful job on it and it really did exceed all my expectations..
FYI - can anyone smell an extended edition coming?
Well, it's really NOT a love it or hate it kind of movie... I mean, through out my entire post, I mentioned that I half liked it and half disliked it. I said it was right in the middle. So, for me at least, it wasn't a "love it or hate it" movie.
Also, my complaint isn't so much that the movie was too long, it's more the fact that it was much longer than it needed to be. I know those are the same thing, but I guess I'm just trying to emphasize one point more strongly than you are...
Anyway, it's not like I don't enjoy long movies. I just think that this one movie didn't necessarily need to be that long. It felt too forced. It's like the movie was long, just for the sake of being long. I knew it was going to be three hours, but I was hoping that there would be more stuff filling up those three hours. Like I said before, there were just so many parts that didn't add anything to the film at all. There were too many scenes that just had no real reason to be there.
Think of it as having a very large cup, but it's only filled up half way, as opposed to being completely full. So, it's not the fact that the movie was long. It's the fact that there was so little that actually consisted within the lengthiness.
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- #164071
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- Best movies of 05
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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Oh, really? I did not know that! That's interesting... So, I guess the scene actually did have some point then. Still though, while viewing it without any knowledge of the "spider pit scene," it seemed useless. But I wonder how I'll feel about it the next time I see it, now that I know it's actually a reference to an old scene...
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So I did some research on the "spider pit scene" (by research I mean google'd it), and it turns out that the scene was originally cut because the director thought it messed with the pacing of the film (how ironic).
Popular legend says that Cooper cut the footage because it was "too shocking" when shown to a test audience, but as the screen capture of one of Cooper's notes from one of the special features in the new Kong DVD shows, "...so don't know about the spider sequences. After all I invented them, and personally cut them out of the rough studio print of "King Kong" They stopped the story". It was cut merely to tighten up the pacing and keep the focus of the terror on Kong.
Another scene that I really hated, was the scene with all the giant bugs at the bottom of that cliff area. There was NO reason to have that scene in the movie, other than "let's see how many giant monsters we can fit in this film!!!" and "let's have some more really cool death scenes!!!" Jackson just wanted that scene to show off his special effects. It did nothing to help the story. The Captain and the actor guy still could have come back and rescued them, simply by dropping a rope or vine down the edge for them to climb up. All important, plot progressing moments in that scene, easily could have been done without the bugs, and again, it would have made the pacing of the film much better. The army of giant bugs was just ridiculous.
This was an homage to the lost "spider pit" sequence from the original 1933 "Kong", which is sort of the Holy Grail of deleted scene to movie enthusiasts. There is evidence that it exists, such as pieces of the original script and old photographs, but the actual sequence has never been found. So PJ, for his remake, decided to put it back in. So, for us "Kong" nuts, that scene was quite a treat.
This was an homage to the lost "spider pit" sequence from the original 1933 "Kong", which is sort of the Holy Grail of deleted scene to movie enthusiasts. There is evidence that it exists, such as pieces of the original script and old photographs, but the actual sequence has never been found. So PJ, for his remake, decided to put it back in. So, for us "Kong" nuts, that scene was quite a treat.
Oh, really? I did not know that! That's interesting... So, I guess the scene actually did have some point then. Still though, while viewing it without any knowledge of the "spider pit scene," it seemed useless. But I wonder how I'll feel about it the next time I see it, now that I know it's actually a reference to an old scene...
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So I did some research on the "spider pit scene" (by research I mean google'd it), and it turns out that the scene was originally cut because the director thought it messed with the pacing of the film (how ironic).
Popular legend says that Cooper cut the footage because it was "too shocking" when shown to a test audience, but as the screen capture of one of Cooper's notes from one of the special features in the new Kong DVD shows, "...so don't know about the spider sequences. After all I invented them, and personally cut them out of the rough studio print of "King Kong" They stopped the story". It was cut merely to tighten up the pacing and keep the focus of the terror on Kong.
Source.
So, I can still respect the fact that Jackson put it in as a tribute, but maybe he should have taken a hint from Cooper and, at the very least, made the scene shorter, because it really does feel like it "stops the story" for the more casual Kong viewer, like myself.
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I hated how Jackson STRETCHED the movie to be three hours. The original one wasn't that long, and this one didn't need to be that long. There were so many boring, pointless scenes that could have been taken out and it would have made the pacing of the movie, and the overall film, much better.
For example, the scene where Kong is sliding around on the ice in the park. That scene really had no purpose at all, other than to show that Anne actually really likes Kong and that Kong is a pretty swell guy! But we already had that message delivered a little bit earlier in the film, when Anne walked up to Kong and he picked her up. We already knew they had a strong connection with each other, so we didn't need 5 minutes of sliding around and laughing to show us the message over and over again. Also, if mister Kong is heavy enough to make the entire balcony in the theater house crumble apart, why did the ice not even crack? I seriously doubt that the ice is stronger than that balcony, which was holding well over a hundred people when all the seats were full.
Another scene that I really hated, was the scene with all the giant bugs at the bottom of that cliff area. There was NO reason to have that scene in the movie, other than "let's see how many giant monsters we can fit in this film!!!" and "let's have some more really cool death scenes!!!" Jackson just wanted that scene to show off his special effects. It did nothing to help the story. The Captain and the actor guy still could have come back and rescued them, simply by dropping a rope or vine down the edge for them to climb up. All important, plot progressing moments in that scene, easily could have been done without the bugs, and again, it would have made the pacing of the film much better. The army of giant bugs was just ridiculous.
Also, the dinosaur stampede was cool for the first couple of minutes, but it went on FAR too long. And the fact that the Raptors continued to go after the 7 or 8 humans, when there was a PILE OF INJURED, GIANT DINOSAURS RIGHT NEXT TO THEM, is a little odd. No animal would go after some strange, small, unknown prey when they have enough food to last them for years just sitting right next to them. The same thing happened when Anne was in the log, and the T-Rex had a FRESHLY KILLED, HUGE ANIMAL IN ITS MOUTH! But still, the T-Rex simply DROPPED it's fresh prey, so that it could go after some smaller prey. Also, I bet if Jurassic Park had never been made, there wouldn't have been any Raptors in the film at all! I'm not saying that King Kong ripped off Jurassic Park, because it didn't. I'm just making an observation, which is: nobody knew what the heck a Raptor was until Jurassic Park came out.
Oh yeah, the beginning of the film, in New York. Did that whole setting seem fake to anyone else? Like, when they would walk around the streets, New York just felt very... generated... very... smooth and weird looking. It didn't really feel like a city, it felt more like some castle from a Final Fantasy game. Of course, I wasn't around New York in the 30s, so maybe that's really what it was like... But the entire city just seemed... fake. Of course, when they came back from the island, it didn't seem fake anymore. It was really weird. It felt like they were coming back to a whole new city. I don't know if I'm the only one who felt that way or not, but it did seem odd.
Anyway. Jack Black was really good in the movie. Like, surprisingly good. It's really awesome how intense he was about the role. Even though there are other people who deserve it more, I still think it would be neat if he won an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor.
Overall, the movie wasn't THAT bad... But it did unnecessarily drag on in certain places. In some parts I felt like Jackson was really trying to make a good film, and in other parts I felt like he just wanted to show off his neat special effects, without paying attention to the story, and create a "long epic" like LotR, even though King Kong doesn't really need to be a long epic to be good (whereas LotR did).
Doesn't make it to my top five list of the year, but it's not in the top five worst movies either. It's right in the middle.
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And the scene where Lucy throws the dagger at the target. When it cut back to her, the dagger was still in it's sheath!
Also, the special effects were, for a Disney movie, surprisingly bad. Movies don't need to have INSANE SPECIAL EFFECTS to be good, but if you're going to make a movie that is 60% CGI, you should at least make the CGI look somewhat decent. :\
I also didn't much care for the acting. At least from the kids, anywany. Every time they said something, it seemed like they were reading it off a cue card or something. And the White Witch was actually portrayed better in BBC's made for TV movie version. The Witch in the new version just seemed dull and wasn't very intimidating at all. It's kind of sad, considering I'm positive the Witch in the Disney version was paid a whole heck of a lot more than the one in the BBC version, even though the one in the BBC version was far better.
Overall, I just thought the Disney version was pretty boring and stupid, and, like Yoda said, a quick way for Disney to cash in on the popularity of LotR and Harry Potter.
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Oh yes, one movie I've been meaning to see practically all year, but just haven't taken the time to do so yet, is Cinderella Man. I've heard nothing but good things about this movie. Have any of you guys seen it? What'd you think about it?
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Originally posted by: maddog00
Here, I may get shot down for this but...
Am I the only one who thinks King Kong could be overrated? I checked rottentomato, and reviewers are toting it as the "best movie evar." Could I be the only one who feels that this may not be as good as the hype?
Here, I may get shot down for this but...
Am I the only one who thinks King Kong could be overrated? I checked rottentomato, and reviewers are toting it as the "best movie evar." Could I be the only one who feels that this may not be as good as the hype?
It's unfair to judge a movie before you've even seen it, but it is possible! I have to admit, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the critics were blowing it way out of proportion. I kind of feel like everyone's just getting in line to kiss Jackson's feet. Empire listed Bad Taste as the 11th best indie film of all time. I guarantee you that the movie wouldn't even have made the list if RotK hadn't swept the Oscars. People forget that, before LotR, Jackson was a completely worthless director, and Bad Taste is a great example.
It's really hard to tell, with directors like Jackson, when critics are actually being serious about what they say, and when they're just trying to play suck up. That's why we need to see it ourselves, so that we can judge it on our own.
Also, Yoda, I agree with you completely about Narnia.
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Originally posted by: Warbler
Sorry, but I don't think asking for reasonable politeness, common courtesy, and a little respect is asking for too much.
Sorry, but I don't think asking for reasonable politeness, common courtesy, and a little respect is asking for too much.
Man, I don't even personally think I was rude, with the exception of my second post, which I apologized about long ago. I mean, I haven't cussed, I haven't (blatantly) called anyone any kind of names, I haven't said any kind of derogatory terms like faggot or anything.
I just felt like I needed to apologize because people like you call me a jerk (why? because I use sarcasm?).
I mean, I could have come in here and screamed "HEY FAGGOTS YOU ALL NEED TO FUCKING GROW SOME BALLS, BITCHES," and I have been on many message boards where people HAVE done that. Seriously, I've been reasonably polite 90% of the time, and the parts I wasn't polite about, I apologized for (long before you came in here and called me a jerk).
I really think you're just calling me a jerk because you disagree with me!
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Originally posted by: Switch Radic
so... it's just you shooting from the hip then?
so... it's just you shooting from the hip then?
No, it's simply me being me. The way I am, the way I feel. I wouldn't expect anything else from any of you, so please don't expect anything more from me!
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- THE ALL NEW PSYCHO REVIEW HAS MOVED
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But I still don't think you actually read my post before criticizing it, or else you would have noticed that I said Switch Radic's name... Anyway, forget about it, it doesn't matter.
btw, I just want to tac this on: I'm not "here to fight" either, as some of you seem to think I am. I guess my comments can come across as harsh if you don't agree with 'em, but honestly, I'm just trying to say what I'm thinking! It's not like I enjoy getting into confrontations like this (especially when 99% of the people I'm talking to completely disagree with everything I say), but I'm not going to bend backwards and completely reword what I'm saying just because people might find it "HARSH." I mean, I'm not going to stop every time I've made a comment, look at it, and go "hm, will this meet the level of politeness that people are expecting?" because honestly, as stated before, I don't really care about what people on the internet think of my manners! I'm sorry if I come across as a JERK sometimes, but that's just me saying what I'm feeling!
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Anyway, apology accepted Switch Radic. Sorry if you feel I got UP TIGHT or RUDE, but personally, I don't think I did!
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- Rave Classics
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Anyway, I'm more into a metalish kind of music, but I do immensely enjoy Machinae Supremacy, and Daft Punk is pretty good as well. Also, I don't really know if Paul Oakenfold counts as "rave", but his remixes sound pretty techno esqe, which is pretty close to rave, correct?
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I didn't have any prejudice feelings towards Batman pre-Begins that I know of, unless some snuck in there when I wasn't looking. I don't really dislike BATMAN himself. I love Comic Books, and although I haven't read Batman, I'm sure I'd enjoy the comics if I read them. But comic books and movies are just so different from each other, man. I mean, I wouldn't be EXPECTING as much from a comic book. Mindless action and cheesy characters are PART of comic books. But when it comes to film, after seeing movies like Requiem for a Dream or City of God, which LITERALLY changed the way I think, movies like Batman seriously PALE in comparison. Not just pale, but become translucent! When I said the thing about Batman Begins "changing my life," I wasn't making fun of people who say that (because I honestly haven't met anyone who said that), but rather was making fun of the fact that it didn't personally change MY life, which is what I've come to expect from movies these days.
That might sound kind of selfish, but when people feel passionately about something (as I do with film), people naturally tend to be a bit selfish. Look at us, we're all at "Original Trilogy." You can't get much more passionate than that. I'm sure there are several people who would think we're being "selfish" by wanting the original trilogy on DVD, and not just accepting what we're given, but we feel very passionate about the subject, so to us, it doesn't seem selfish at all. That might help give you a better idea of where I'm coming from.
Though, I guess it's really unfair of me to post a long paragraph about how you should judge things completely separate of each other, and then start comparing Begins to movies like Requiem, but honestly, it's hard not to man. Seeing as how I am seriously attempting to break into directing, and I take films very seriously, it's hard for me not to just LAUGH at something like BATMAN BEGINS (EXTREME ACTION COOL CARS), y'know? I guess I might (i don't think so, but it's possible) demand to much from a movie, but really, I just want to watch something that has more meaning than "wow, that's cool?"
Also, just because Nolan made it seem like Batman's story could happen in real life, doesn't make it any less corny or ridiculous. I mean, WHITE CHICKS could happen in real life, but that doesn't make the movie any better. And the whole "going into the psychology of Batman" thing is one of the things that I found to be really cheesy. It just felt so cliché. Like I said before, the entire movie felt like "OH NO, OUR HERO HAS GONE THROUGH SO MUCH PAIN, HOW CAN HE EVER OVERCOME THE GREAT ORDEALS OF LIFE!? I HOPE HE MAKES IT OUT OF THIS PICKLE!" And Christian Bale's acting really didn't help that feeling, as he had the same look on his face throughout the entire movie (except when he was batman, when he all of a sudden got REALLY ANGRY GRR). Seriously, people make fun of Keanu Reeves' facial expressions, but Bale's weren't any better in Begins.
Anyway, that is my two cents (i guess it was a bit more than just two but whatever).
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- Best movies of 05
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I've still yet to see Narnia, Grommit, King Kong, and several other movies I've heard were very good, so my list may be incomplete.
King Kong's not out yet, so don't worry. None of us have seen it either!
I'm not even going to dignify Jaster with a response. I only have one question. How old are you Jaster?
King Kong's not out yet, so don't worry. None of us have seen it either!
I'm not even going to dignify Jaster with a response. I only have one question. How old are you Jaster?
I would assume that any response you would have for me would be an argument, and I don't know exactly how ARGUING with someone is a means of conferring up dignity. I can only assume your reasoning behind that statement was "I'm going to pretend I'm much more mature than him by saying 'im not going to dignify you with a response,' but then just take a cheap shot anyway and make fun of him!"
Don't worry, we all find your "how old are you?" comment to be HYSTERICALLY HUMOUROUS, and I'm sure you'll become the BIG MAN on campus for telling off some whippersnapper on the internet at a Star Wars forum!
Anyway. I've stated before on these boards how old (or, compared to some people here, young) I am, but I don't really feel like DIGNIFYING YOU WITH A RESPONSE
So you can just continue thinking you're oh so much better than me, just because I was a bit rude!btw (this is my cheap stab, since you snuck one in as well): I love how you try making fun of my age, and then list Wallace and Gromit as one of the BEST MOVIES of the year. Granted, Wallace and Gromit are pretty cool, but it still seemed a bit ironic!
Anyway, Chaltab. If you're interested in continuing the Batman debate, I'd be happy to do so in PM (so that people like Switch Radic don't feel the need to STEP IN). I'm actually pretty interested in hearing what else you have to say about it, seeing as how you (appear) to be a pretty big BAT-FAN.