JadedSkywalker

A problem I have with the prequel is the villains are more compelling and interesting than the heroes. There is no clear protagonist, despite us constantly being told it’s supposed to be Anakin. This was a mistake, the Jedi are written as aloof and without emotion and Anakin is written as the opposite as very open with them and un-jedi like outbursts, sort of Emo. The dialog is stilted and stiff and nobody talks naturally. Everyone is directed in a listless manner and is completely asleep delivering their lines except Ian in Episode III, in Episode II even he was boring in his delivery.

I really wish Lucas hadn’t filmed them against green screen as separate elements you need chemistry between actors and for them to be comfortable in what they are doing.

Why were the actors in the original able to convincingly act to puppets and bluescreen, why was the dialog in most places much more natural. What happened. Lucas can’t have slipped that much in 16 years between Return of the Jedi and Phantom Menace. Some essential thing was missing and I can’t quite quantify what.

I get that part about Sidious being behind both sides of the conflict so he could declare himself absolute ruler. Why did Jar Jar give him emergency powers again? Also, Padme was maneuvered into making him Chancellor in the first place. When Bail Antilles probably would have won the election. Since Palpatine is the one who stirred up lies that Valorum was corrupt, but you can’t argue that he wasn’t ineffective as a chancellor. He was a friend to the JEDI, I guess that made it doubly useful to ruin him.

I assume Mas Amedda was working for him the whole time as well reporting on Valorum to Sidious.

Also, Padme isn’t weak minded, so she was manipulated without use of the force, but Jar Jar is weak minded so who knows.

I actually like Matt Lanter Anakin more than Hayden, but I appreciate what Hayden did on the Disney shows.

I do like the Republic Comics those were before Filoni Wars. I also much prefer Ventress in the EU over Filoni, and I like the Micro Series and the Obsession comic. I liked the Battle of Jabiim and how it tied into Luke’s story later in the other comics. I like the character of Asharad Hett who went on to become Darth Drayt, I liked the Aurra Sing books. Those are all non canon to Disney Star Wars.

You want an unpopular opinion I hated Dark Disciple and how it comes off like a YA romance novel. I actually like Son of Dathmomir even if most of the retcons Filoni made to Maul’s backstory i dislike.

I may have disliked the Legacy books but I liked the Legacy comics the first one with Cade, though Legacy II was kind of meh, though a Solo without force powers has some merit.

I think Lucas really wanted to push the limits of cgi and digital cinema. I’m still of the opinion II and III should have been shot on film and used more reals sets and practical effects and locations than he did. I know there was a mix of them but it’s not clear when you watch the movies, they all look video gamey for some reason. Especially in Episode II and on Geonosis it’s almost like an animated movie so much cgi. The way the Clone troopers are rendered, the Walkers, the enemy robots nothing feels real. AT least the scenes change at a rapid pace, so you don’t linger on the renders too long to lose willful sense of disbelief completely, but there is zero verisimilitude or any used universe like the OT.

Other than Revenge what is Palpatine’s endgame, Ian is brilliant but the story makes no sense if you bother to ask questions. What was the trade federation boycott of Naboo about, Tariffs? What in the force does Sidious need taxes for. Why does he want to ruin the Naboo. And that is just in the first episode. In II he makes the Jedi the Generals of his army to then in III just murder them all because he sets Anakin on a path to betray them.

I’m not having an existential crisis, but I was drawn into the middle of this, and I didn’t want to be, how can I make that clear? Should I take it to private messages I guess I should and not derail thread further.

To be clear Luke is the heart of Star Wars for me, but that ship sailed with the prequel when Hayden Skywalker was made the heart of Star Wars. I’ll forever cherish Mark Hamill and the OT, but it’s like those Star Trek fans hoping Berman Trek is coming back at some point you have to realize things.

I hope the screenplay is good and the director did say she wanted to include something for long-term fans I wonder what that would be, a secret Mark Hamill cameo? If that was happening, I figured it would be in Dave’s movie.

The director said Rey is the heart of Star Wars and all the fandom menace are losing their darn minds. Despite the fact that Luke passed the lightsaber in the sequel trilogy, the whole point of making those movies was Luke passing the torch so to speak. The Disney trilogy isn’t getting retconned and Luke’s story purpose has been given to Rey, to those fans who object to this hoping for a retcon or a Luke academy series walk away Star Wars died ten years ago for you.

I’m not gatekeeping I’m just pointing out a simple fact that those type of news channels if you can even call them that are totally obtuse about.

I not super excited for this film to be honest but I want to keep an open mind and heart. I hope the trailer when it arrives is good and maybe even my nieces might like it.

I’m not at all interested in the politics of how things are made or what have you I just want to enjoy Star Wars. I have to avoid those channels in my feed the algorithm promotes.

Disney Music Emporium has the complete set of scores on CD for 150 and on vinyl for 300 for all 5 films. I can’t afford either because they made them for rich people and limited.

Cheers to those who can afford to pay such high prices for a John Williams set, I’m just going to import Crystal Skull on Vinyl I have the CD for Raiders and Last Crusade.

I would like to find the first issue VHS for Raiders, and I have been on the hunt for Crystal Skull on VHS for a while, it’s a rare Korean tape.

Get the mods involved I have no way to prove who and who isn’t a sock I have to use best judgment and treat people equally.

As to Thrawn being a good guy or it hinted that he was i never liked that aspect of the Duology or the other later Thrawn books which I need to reread Outbound Flight and Survivor’s Quest.

The idea that the Empire were the good guys because they kept order to prevent an alien Invasion from outside the galaxy because Democracy is messy, totally hate that.

Return of the Jedi 70mm, wow the amount of vinegar syndrome at the start of this scan,lol. But the rest even with some fading was very enjoyable.

I also watched the technidisc pressing of Star Wars someone preserved, the amount of aliasing is ridiculous just on the crawl alone. But I guess it has nice but faded color.

The Fantasia 35mm was also fantastic watched that as well.
I also watched Puggo’s Swedish Star Wars.

I also watched Superman again, the transfer is quite soft for a 4K I guess that is faithful to Unworth’s cinematography, which to my eye looks almost 2k. It’s not very sharp.

I was watching a video asking who would win in a rematch Yoda or Palpatine and it reminded me of how I never wanted either of them to ever have a lightsaber. Shouldn’t they be like super powerful wizards who don’t need anything but their mind to be deadly or just a motion of their hand to move an object, or to shoot lightning.

Thought better of my response and I’ve deleted it because it was of a political nature and I don’t want the mods to get pissed at me.

For what it’s worth people are illegally selling 4K versions of those fanedits/preservations, I would just as soon go into a store or online and legally purchase HDR and 4K copies from Lucasfilm. These sellers make thousands of dollars quite rapidly and once one site closes down or some site they are on kicks them off they just reappear.

I would like to own copies I didn’t download or burn myself, which I can’t do for 4K and I can only do 1080P and stream it off my external or watch it from there. because I don’t have a disk drive.

These people have been making quite likely into the hundreds of thousands off of fan projects, there is a market for legitimate releases, but Disney has to be not stupid.

But they are anti-consumer and anti-fan by putting everything into their streaming model so what the hell do I know.

I thought with the release of Cinderella and Snow White in 4K, and Andor and Obi-Wan they had changed their tune, maybe I was wrong.

I did like the New Jedi Knights series but to be honest it’s a junior novel series and I haven’t read them since the last volume was published by the Science Fiction Book Club, I have the hardback for.

That was why it was so disastrous to change Jacen’s character so much. Unlike others I never liked Caedus, I hated him.

I agreed with everything Han said about his burning the Wookiee homeworld and how he wasn’t his son.

When he killed Mara I thought Luke was going to kill him, Jaina did.

At least Ben Skywalker was smart enough to turn away from following Jacen down the darkside path. Its pretty sick that Jacen tried to turn him the way Vader was, Luke’s own father Anakin, or how he killed his father in law Isolder. He
killed Boba Fett’s daughter as well, just an evil little asshole. Unlike Vader he was never redeemed he went to the void.

Edit: I meant Young Jedi Knights damn I must be mixing up that and New Jedi Order sorry. I think Kevin J Anderson and Rebecca Moesta wrote those?

There is a site. I found out about it on youtube, selling 4K discs of 4k77, 4k80 and 4k83. Not going to link. It seriously is bad for the community for people to do this. The Blu-Ray boots were bad enough but offering 4K and not just 4K but HDR copies as well, awful.

Edit: it’s not through youtube obviously it’s a webstore that sells bootlegs. They even call these despecialized when they are 4k versions of the 4k77, 4k80 and 4k83. And Harmy isn’t the one who did those they can’t even get basic facts right.

The one I’m looking for wasn’t ever on archive. Stjärnornas Krig.

Lucas was going to make Leia not Rey the chosen one of the entire Saga. But he never made his sequel trilogy. I wonder if Leia taking over and ruling the Republic was in any way like the original idea for ROTJ where Leia became Queen of her people.

Still Luke running the Jedi religion and Leia running the government how does that work if the galaxy finds out Vader was their father. How do you prevent something like the first order from happening, which happened in Disney. or how does Luke prevent a student of his or several of them from going dark and upending everything.

Superweapon VII said:

JadedSkywalker said:

I hate Star Wars becoming the Saga of Darth Vader rather than the Adventures of Luke Skywalker, I hate Luke being supplanted and replaced by Vader becoming the lead character. We are supposed to root for a wife killer and child murderer is that it?

Lucas totally lost his sense on the prequel, virgin birth, chosen one prophecy, rules on attachment, midichlorians, Whills, how can people take any of that at face value.

He destroyed Star Wars there was nothing left for Disney to destroy.

While I agree with your points overall, I wouldn’t want Star Wars to JUST be the Adventures of Luke Skywalker. The SW Universe is bigger than any Skywalker, Luke or Anakin.

Well I meant about the Saga as in the movies, sure the expanded universe and tv can go on tangents. For me nowadays I’m either just a Star Wars guy, or maybe an Empire guy and Jedi is subpar. The prequel is unnecessary backstory muddled and screwed over in the details. The Disney movies are almost like the Kelvin timeline of Star Trek for me, I can sort of enjoy them but they aren’t worthy of respect or time. They didn’t take the lore seriously because George didn’t in the prequel, so they were like what the hell, we will do what we want.

Maybe it’s for the best the canon is destroyed the very notion of canon might be stupid, if you thought about it too much.

Yoda says the dark side clouds everything, that is supposed to excuse their stupidity. Episode III is almost like Dark Helmet said about good being dumb.

Lucas hates the original that is the only reason it’s not available. I mean Vanilla Ice in Cool as Ice is on Blu-Ray, but not Star Wars doesn’t that seem absurd.

Though I’d like a 4K disc because I won’t settle for a Blu anymore. Its 2024 Not 2015.

The price is too high maybe when it comes down to earth and reality I will play it, I just started playing Battlefront II and Jedi Fallen Order on gamepass because its affordable.

rocknroll41 said:

New post up on my blog regarding the acolyte (and the state of the franchise in general):

https://henrynsilva.blogspot.com/2024/06/the-acolyte-past-present-future-of-star.html?m=1

Nice summation and without Hyperbole, but you didn’t mention Willow the tv series being erased from existence or Dial of Destiny flopping. And I disagree on Solo, I feel like Alden didn’t at all come off as Harrison. What Disney needs is a Star Wars film in the cinema that breaks a billion at the box office. If Dial can fail and Harrison was in it, what does that say about Lucasfilm? The same actor who was a draw when they made Force Awakens, couldn’t get people to see the 5th Indiana Jones film. And also the Rey movie isn’t going to have Harrison or Mark or Carrie to carry it, we shall see what the box office says on that one if it ever gets released.

As for the Acolyte itself I just got into the older shows on disc, when is Disney going to put out Mando season 3 and Ahsoka? Because I would have to sign up for Plus and other than some of the cartoon shows and maybe Light and Magic it doesn’t seem like all that good a deal at the price point for no ads.

I’ll give him credit for his interview with Paul Duncan that was excellent, but his video on the Special Edition and the prequel irritated me.

He does come at things from a pro George perspective, which can be off-putting to say the least.

As for the accuracy of Lucas statements in Star Wars archives or the accuracy of the research I can’t speak for that because it’s a 200-dollar book, which I don’t have.

Does anyone have the Semi Specialized Star Wars Episode IV?

There certainly are enhancements which I don’t condemn like cleaned up picture and sound, but I really dislike Han shooting second. I didn’t like the Ronto in frame I thought it was obnoxious. the Stormtroopers riding Banthas is fine. Replacing the awful Landspeeder shot, cardboard cutout in the Throne room, fixing misaligned rotoscope on lightsabers. The recomposites of original film pieces, not the cgi, is done so well I can’t complain. Creating a multi channel digital mix. All fine, the cgi new shots are almost always worse. Always hated the new cgi X-wings over the original effects.

The praxis ring when the death star blows up hate that too.

The Jabba scene I actually like, but it should have stayed out because it and the Greedo scene have repetitious dialog, relay the same information. Slows down the pace of the film. If Lucas wanted more Stormtroopers that Han was chasing he should have filmed them, I hate the CGI added ones.