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#382419
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Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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Ghost said:

There is nothing wrong with CG ships.  That has come a long way and looks real now. 

 

And Yes, when I said move the conversation, that also means start Luke on Dagobah. 

With millions of dollars and a dedicated team of professionals, yes. But not from amateurs, there's simply not enough money or computing power.

 

Also you said about Batman? The Dark Knight has barely any CG in it, and the main thing it's used for is getting cameras and equipment out of shots (Nolan likes to have many cameras capturing a scenefrom different angles a the same time). Other than Two-Face (and possibly the skyhook), the only major shot of the film that was CG was the helicopter plummeting out of the sky, and even then, it was only when it was falling, when it hits the street it's a real chopper chassis they lit on fire and chucked down the street.

 

That's how you use CG, at least for now. Films like Avatar are pushing CG forward and sowing seeds for CG to one day look fully convincing, but it's still a work in progress, and certianly beyond the capabilities of a few amateur SW fans.

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#382415
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The ANH:SE Redux Ideas thread (Radical Ideas Welcome).
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Darth Venal said:

District 9... now that is a nice film. A perfect example of how to integrate digital characters with live action. I found that movie pretty darn touching.

And shockingly good quality CG for such a low budget, I mean it's easily better than any CG effect in the PT or many blockbusters, and all for only 30 million, a fraction of their budgets.

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#382414
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Info Wanted: Should ADYWAN re-edit the prequels?
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I'm most interested in knowing whether he plans to do all new sequences with models and the like, as he's doing with ESB and ROTJ. I mean, the PT is easily the most fequent target of fanedits, of any films ever, so edits have been done, and some things like colour correction ,lightsaber colour changes, all that, they've been done too, but a huge scale redesign hasn't ever been done, and I'd lvoe see what Adywan could cook up to improve the prequels.

 

Plus his skill level with this sort of thing is going to be phenomenal after ROTJ: R, so I really can't wait for PT: R.

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#381450
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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TMBTM said:

Although it would be more suitable for a fan fiction or EU, I have an idea.

What about making the lightsabers changing color, depending of the mood of the character... For exemple in ROTJ Luke saber could turn to red for a moment and in ROTS Anakin's saber would completely turn to red.

I know, it's a little silly, but I had to share the idea.

Well that doesn't really make any sense, since they're constructed with a specific colour crystal, and that's just too much like a mood ring.

 

I kinda wish Lucas had given a crap about the lightsabr colours, if only because it just looks like a mess now. If it's just random, and they Jedi picks whatever colour they prefer, why only blue and green? Where's the yellows, oranges, pinks, whites, etc?

 

Pretty sure Adywan will be redoing all the lightsabers when he gets to the PT, so I hope he introduces some kind of order to them, even just a small amount would be nice.

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#380984
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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What would you think can be done to the PT to have it mirror the OT, but in reverse, a bit more? Like say, bookends for the start of TPM, and the end of ROTJ, to mark the beginning and end of the saga, or tonal changes so that episode 1 and 6 are similar in tone, 2 and 5, and 3 and 4. Or the other way round, with 1 and 4, 2 and 5, and 3 and 6.

 

Like, say, TPM and ANH both end similarly, with a medal ceremony, and a clebration respectively. Obviously the mirror is ther right away, but just repeating the ending is wasting having a six film saga at your disposal. ANH's ceremony is happy, and hopeful, now we know everything goes to hell in the next film, but we don't know that yet. TPM has another happy celebration at the end, but to make it more interesting, why not make it not so happy?

 

Like say, make it a celebration, but give a sense of foreboding, and ominousness. Sort of "hey, this is a happy ending, or what, I;m not sure actually, I think something bad is going to happen", and when ANH rolls around, you go "ah, that's better, this celebration went a lot better".

 

Same with AOTC and ESB, make AOTC go well, in contrast to ESB, and ROTS is already opposite in tone from ROTJ, so not much work needed there.

 

Basically, make each OT film have a counter in the PT. This would tie the two trilogies together better than any references to characters or items slipped in to both would, as it wouldn't be superficial, it would be a the core of both trilogies.

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#380711
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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adywan said:

Jaitea said:

What about the fine molds Falcon, have you started it Ady? Are you gonna do any modifications to the kit, LED lighting etc, or will you add effects post filming, thats what I'm keen to see, have you got any way to track the camera for some smooth shots?

 

J

The Falcon is going to be one of the last things i build along with the new rebel hangar. Its going to have the full lighting to match the studio model and the full size set model. I'm going to be building a camera rig so i can get the smooth motion needed

Camera rigs and full lighting? Bloody hell Adywan, this is making ANH: R look like a cut and paste edit. How do you have the space and time for all these models and rigs?

 

adywan said:I know the PT:R is a long way off but a hell of a lot of things will be changing drastically  in those films when i get to them.

I can't think of a better combination of words in a sentence then "PT" and "Drastic changes", except maybe for "Star Wars Revisited" and "complete". I think it's been said plenty, and really, it goes without saying, but nothing whatsoever in the OT should change to reflect anything in the PT. It was the PT's job, as the later films made, to conform to the OT, not the other way round, and I wish Lucas had understood that.

 

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#380409
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Info &amp; Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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Well not only would it be impossible to have Vader vs. Palpatine, it would be pointless, as well. I mean, really, if they duelled, it would be over within a few seconds. Palpatine doesn't even need a lightsaber (I think ROTS needs plenty of work in this regard), he'd peel Vader apart with ease, just using the Force. As was said, he's the evil counterpart to Yoda, and Yoda would kick Luke and Vader's asses at the same time, without a lightsaber.

 

Now obviously Vader kills Palpatine, but that's only because he got the drop on him, and Palpatine still managed to get a fatal blow in.

 

On a different note, I know most people hate the Ewoks, and most reasons for that are obvious, but what sort of things can be done to make them a bit less childish? Obviously, removing their antics is key, and doing things like adding Stormtrooper helmets in their village as in the mockups, to make them seem more like strong warriors, are great, but it doesn't get past the fact that they are cuddly little teddy bears with spears. I assume Adywan will want to Cantinize their faces, but what about changing things like eyes completely? Or changing their voices to be more agressive and threatening? Just small things here and there in their appeances, since they inherently look childish, to try and minimize that.

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#380343
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Info &amp; Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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I prefer the original colour of the lightning to the PT one, and I like how much "bigger" it is, rather than thin little arcs, they were think, and damned nasty looking. Obviously it looks outdated, and does need to be redone, but I'd like it do be as close to the original as possible.

 

Of course, thanks to the PT you get the same problem with Luke's green lightsaber, the surprise is gone. Obviously, it's hard to avoid (unlike the green saber) in the PT, since why the hell wouldn't Palpatine use his most deadly attack in ROTS, but still, the exact moment when Palatine lets loose a load of lightning out of his frigging hands, is one of the best surprises of the OT, for me.

 

 

Also, which one is Jerjerrod? Sorry to ask this but I've honestly never heard of him before this topic. I'm not that familiar with EU, and in all my many viewings of ROTJ, I've never noticed him. I assume he was supposed to be more important in earlier drafts, or something?

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#379889
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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shanerjedi said:

Bingowings said:

mrbenja0618 said:

Interesting... Any ideas on how to make that happen?

 Redubbing the dialogue and altering the statues in the Gungan sacred place would do the trick :

 

The miniature and digimatte work in TPM was the best of the PT. There was some other great stuff in the other films but TPM was most consistent.

That first picture looks a bit bad, though, Anakin doesn't look convincing at all. Easily fixable, though, I'm sure.

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#379423
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Darth Solo said:

Alrighty then.

The point has been made and emphasised about the window. Just to keep you happy the window was always supposed to be there from the concept stage of film on McQuarries designs:

Speaking of which, and maybe impossible to do, some of the backgrounds that were originally intended for Degobah look twenty times as creepy as the final film set:

Mutant trees and sort of an Alien queens hive enviroment (complete with mutant spider). Spooky! 

 

It's all gone a bit HP Lovecraft here. Creepy.

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#379421
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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EyeShotFirst said:

The biggest problem with making a prequel is when the casting director goes for who looks the most like the character in the original. They don't care at all as long as they look enough like the character. In the beginning of the movie Braveheart there was a young actor playing William Wallace. He didn't look at all like Mel Gibson but he practiced his mannerisms and got them down perfect so the seams met in a way that made the film seamless. Then you have a movie like Star Trek with that horrible Chris Pine. He didn't even bother to try to be William Shatner. He had the look fairly close but really didn't capture the essence of William Shatner's performance (it isn't that hard LOL). 

Most people would prefer seeing somebody who looks like the original character, but a true fan of any original film would like to see somebody who convinces them that they are the same character without looking extremely close to the original.

 

My biggest problem with the dialogue in the prequels is they say some of the same shit they do in the originals. Amidala talking about "discussing this in a committee" a classic Han line. All the damn aliens call people Bantha Fodder.

And why does every sith say "Search your feelings and you will know it to be true." Darth Vader said it first in ESB then after that everybody says it.

It was like George Lucas had a hat full of lines. He pulls one out every time a character says something and sticks it in the script.

The Godfather Part II, Robert De Niro looks nothing like Marlon Brando, but he sure as hell was Vito Corleone. I think that might be the ur-example.

 

I disagree with you on Pine. I thought he was very good, and why should he do an impression of William Shatner? He's playing Kirk, not Shatner. And a young Kirk at that.

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#379195
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Darth Venal said:

The irony there is that Ewan McGregor said he was trying not to really impersonate Guinness too much "as it interferes with the acting process". Well, that may be, but whatever he was trying to do, he gave two dreadful performances and one okay performance in those three movies. And I really like Ewan McGregor, so don't take that as me having a go. He's a genuinely decent bloke and he's done some decent movies, but action hero he is not.

Well, I've chalked his very mixed performances in the PT up to an awful script, bad direction from Lucas, concentrating too hard on emulating Guinness, and too much work with bluescreen and greenscreen sets (like most of his time on Kamino, for instance).

 

Same deal with Natalie Portman, but more of an annoyance since she had a lot less to do than McGregor. Er, Sam Jackson, I don't think he gave much of a crap about the movie or his performance, I think he just really wanted to be a Jedi, with a lightsaber (understandable). Liam Neeson in TPM was pretty good, but he's capable of far better, I put that up to him not getting along with Lucas and his way of making films very well. Hayden Christiansen can't act.

So many great actors in the PT, yet such bad performances. Of all the potential for story, action, effects, that was wasted, I think the biggest waste may still be the acting.