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Imrahil

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#613419
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I like George Lucas
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Agreed. I give him props as the creator of Star Wars, the principal guy involved in bringing that team and that creative vision together.  None of this could've happened without him.

 

Plus, I think he's genuinely a nice guy. He wouldn't be donating assloads of money to charities and supporting education if he were the monster people think he is.

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#611448
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Michael Arndt heavily involved in writing the new SW trilogy
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I think lighting is one of the huge problems with CGI and virtual sets. A light 30 feet away can mimic the sun effectively, but it's got to be done really well. Most of the time when these movies look bad it's to do with the lighting not being realistically "outdoors," but being sound-stagey.

You can see it a fair bit even in the LOTR movies. The slow-mo shot of the fellowship in the first one (yes, I know that every other shot is slow motion), when they're crossing the mountains, shows that kind of studio lighting, and the background looks like a cyclorama.  Maybe it was shot on location, but it doesn't look it.

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#611432
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Since when did ROTJ become less highly regarded than even Episodes II or III?
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Adium said:

Some weird people claim III > VI

 

those people are weird.

Yeah, count me in with them.  Jedi is one that I don't consciously avoid but I definitely don't watch as much as the others.  I hated the Jabba's Palace stuff, I hated the retread of the Death Star, and I hated the Emperor.  The forest battle isn't nearly as fun a setpiece as Hoth was, and the 2nd death star battle lacked any real drama.  I also disliked how different the "look" of everything was; the established "Rebels" for the first two movies look completely different in Jedi, there are tons of guys in rubber masks with speaking parts, Luke's gone emo, Han's been neutered, and there's an old man in a hood cackling at everything.

I remember reading the storybook in 1983 before I even saw the movie--I was that excited to know what happened--and when I finished I was just incredibly let down. I didn't really understand that at the time, I just knew I felt weird and didn't know what it was.  I recognized it again in 1999.

Sith, for all its flaws, actually feels like a Star Wars movie, and it's got an interesting story that I give a shit about. Jedi has like 3 scenes that are any good at all.  I just don't like it very much.


That said, it's still much better than the first two prequels. But so is...I dunno, Krull.

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#608250
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Michael Arndt heavily involved in writing the new SW trilogy
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Bingowings said:

Luke, Yoda, Ben, Palpatine and Vader are all Jedish (the implication is that Leia is too).

The bulk of the good guys are Force devotees even when they aren't Jedi.

I always present my case as opinion because it's a discussion board ergo my lack of IMHO.

Your opinion is an opinion as well but it's not one that holds up to much scrutiny.

I'd hardly call Yoda and Palpatine main characters. They're essentially story prompts.  So is Ben really; his "jedish" nature is less important than his role as a guardian and mentor for Luke.  Palpatine is a cartoon, not a character.

I'm not saying the force and jedi didn't exist in the OT (as you seem to be straw manning). I'm saying that there are tons of important characters who get a lot more development who have nothing to do with it.  Leia may be "implied" to be in one of their number, but it never materializes and thus isn't a part of her character.

Your opinion seems angry, arrogant, and pushy. Maybe I'm misreading you.

I know the prequels happened. So what? That's like saying, "You know, all war movies MUST have references to the Crimean War in them. That HAPPENED, whether you like it or not."  The prequels will be 60 years in the past of these new movies, if the rumors are to be believed--80 years for the first one.  Why would the events in them still have to be constantly referenced?  Do you constantly find references to 1932 in your everyday life?

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#608207
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Michael Arndt heavily involved in writing the new SW trilogy
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Bingowings said:

You really need to wait for a spin off because all the Star Wars films are Jedi centred that's what they are.

The OT wasn't. It was character-centered. One of them just happened to be a Jedi-in-training.  Luke was a hero on a journey, but his wasn't the only story going on.

The toys and games that sell the most are Jedi and starfighter based, the Kenner Falcon was cool but did you try pretending to fight space battles with a heavy plastic tray in two hands?

Based on what, exactly, are you making this claim?  The Lego stuff sells huge, and that's a LOT of spaceships and vehicles.  There are jedi characters, but it's not giant lightsabers that people are building.

And all the kids in my street have lightsabers not laser guns, this is eight years after the last Star Wars movie (one of the crap ones I may add).

Yep, the Clone Wars is popular with little kids; that sells lightsabers. When I was a kid we all had the plastic lightsaber toy and never played with it. But you should've seen how beat up our Han and Stormtrooper blasters were.

You make a movie that's about non-Jedi, and guess what? People are interested in playing with non-Jedi toys.  Your argument (and it is an argument, an opinion, not fact--despite how you present it) is based on a flawed concept: "It is the way it is now because it always has been."  That's patently untrue.

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#608192
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Michael Arndt heavily involved in writing the new SW trilogy
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Bingowings said:

The weak PT is already connected to the ST via the connecting tissue of the beloved OT.

I really do think avoiding it will make it more conspicuous.

It would be better to try and re-jig your memory of the past for the better while running the new present.

 

I think you're wrong, and that most people will breathe a huge sigh of relief at leaving the prequels behind.

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#608190
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Michael Arndt heavily involved in writing the new SW trilogy
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Bingowings said:

Imrahil said:

Also, I think Jaitea's right. Disney already has plenty of girl properties. They specifically went after Marvel and LFL to get "boy" properties.

Oh that's so cutely retro.

I'm sorry it's so offensive to you (?), but they talked about this explicitly in that shareholder's meeting that they had about the property right after the deal got announced. It's all there in corporate-speak; they wanted a property they could market to boys.  Stories about ghost moms or oedipal complexes isn't going to do it.

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#608174
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Michael Arndt heavily involved in writing the new SW trilogy
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Eh, that whole "this is the skywalker family saga" is revisionist stuff from the PT.  This is about Luke and Vader, sure, but to pretend it isn't also about Han and Chewie and Leia and the droids is silly, and missing the point.  Enough with the Jedi being the focus; get back to the rest of the universe which was the fun stuff in the first two movies.