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#118949
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Most Powerful Quote in all the Star Wars films.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/118949/action/topic#118949
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Agree with "luminous beings" line. And some others. . . here are some that have been overlooked. . .

"You didn't see us alone in the south passage. She expressed her true feelings for me."

"There aren't enough scoundrels in your life."

"I find your lack of faith disturbing. . ."

"Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignifigant next to the power of the Force."

"No! I don't think he likes you at all! No, I don't like you either."


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#117590
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.: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/117590/action/topic#117590
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Originally posted by: yanksno1
Great work guys, it definitely looks a lot sharper (just the beam alone is a huge improvement). I really liked seeing the 3 screenshots of TR47, X0's & the official DVD side by side (on the last couple pages). Is it possible for you guys to do that on your site? That'd be the ulimate comparison and I'd love to see. Also, are these screenshots compressed or uncompressed?


Well, I don't know if they'll be doing it for their site. . . but I'll be posting the comparison shot here some time tonight. I've done the prior two. Why stop now?

H
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#113639
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.: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113639/action/topic#113639
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I hope it's okay to put this here. . .

I was so impressed with the sample screenshot from the X0 project (when compared to the TR47 laserdisc-to-DVD transfer), that I decided to add another point of comparison. . . the official DVD.

Here's the three side-by-side. Look at how the X0 project is nearly as clear! And, indeed, seems clearer in some respects. And, of course, the colors of the X0 project are much closer to how we all remember the scene:

http://www.dor-lomin.com/ot-images/tr47-xo-dvd.jpg

If for some reason, the X0 team objects to my posting this image, please let me know. I'll delete it immediately.

Thanks!

Hurin
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#113584
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Kevin Smith interview in Rolling Stone on fans - Couldn't have said it better myself...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113584/action/topic#113584
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Peace my friends, and so-long.

Oh goodie! A dramatic exit by someone who you know hasn't left at all and is still reading as we speak!

Anyways, it's a shame that so many on the pro-prequels side can't seem to respect differing tastes and views. . . but instead dismiss those with whom they disagree as either crazy, stupid, or socially mal-adjusted. It might surprise Kevin Smith and others like him to know that there are tons of well-adjusted, otherwise normal people who just feel that George Lucas lost his touch. And, we don't need to look through a nostalgic lens to see it. Funny how I loved Jedi as a kid, but loathe it now. . . shouldn't my nostalgia have trapped me into considering it the best film ever? George Lucas obviously changed his cinematic sensibility right around the time he was involved with Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and Return of the Jedi. His movies descended from that point into infantalism. Perhaps it's not a coincidence that it was at this time that he adopted his first child.

Kevin Smith believes that The Phantom Menace is better than Empire. Yet, rather than give some substantial reasoning for this view, he seems to feel the need to attack the people who disagree with him rather than the (very legitimate) criticizm of Lucas's recent movies.

Oh, and way to troll there, Mr. Coffee. I urge everyone here not to encourage posts like this. Please do not respond with vitriol or attacks. It's just what he wants.

H
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#113287
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The chosen one
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113287/action/topic#113287
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We've debated this at length over in another forum. But here's the gist of it:

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The imbalance in the Force is Sidious, not the Jedi. A properly trained Jedi acts with the balance of the Force in mind. Ultimately selfless and the means justify the end. The Sith care nothing about the balance, using the Force to only augment themselves. Ultimately selfish and the ends justify the means.


Or, in other words: A properly trained Jedi is mindful of keeping the Force in balance. He does not affect the balance of the Force. We're not talking about the number of Force users on each side, but how the Force is used.
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#112518
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/112518/action/topic#112518
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Meaning you had before, or you hadn't seen ESB before a decade ago?

Meaning, I remember noticing this about a decade ago (somewhere between my fiftieth and sixtieth time watching ESB) and thinking: "WTF!?! Since when can Vader just absorb blaster bolts?" And then, I forgot all about it. Because it didn't seem like a big deal to me.
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#112510
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/112510/action/topic#112510
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Are there any other occurences of blaster bolts being deflected/blocked by a Jedi/Sith/armour?


No. And, to be honest, it hadn't occurred to me to think "WTF?" about this for about a decade until this thread.

But, Yoda is shown absorbing Palpatine's force lightning more than once. Same principle?

H

P.S. Leave the scene as it is! It's cool enough already (IMHO).
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#112418
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"Hoooow is that possible..."
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/112418/action/topic#112418
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It's always startling to me how we can be told that the Sith lie and manipulate and turn friends against friends and cause confusion between good and evil. . . and we know that Palpatine is the Sith Lord. . . and yet people who have this odd attachment to Vader and or The Empire repeat Palpatine's propoganda talking points as though they are objective truths.

Seriously people. . . there are good guys and bad guys in this story. It's a very simple Good Vs Evil scenario. Stop trying to look more deeply into it than even Lucas intends. He never intended his audience to believe that the Jedi were evil. . . he only wanted you to understand how Anakin could be fooled into believing it. Palpatine obiously spouts twisted propoganda at Anakin in order to fool him. How odd is it that some people, even knowing this, buy into it as well, just as Anakin does.

You guys are aware that Vader is a villain, right?
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#111981
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"Hoooow is that possible..."
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/111981/action/topic#111981
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
The new empire footage between vader and palpatine ruins the original ending of empire, because it is revealed earlier in the movie that vader is luke's father, so it wrecks the dark revelation "I AM YOUR FATHER!". The reason i'm saying this is imagine your seeing empire for the very first time, as their will be people doing being younger and newer to star wars, it gives away the ending of the movie making it anticlimatic. Not only that, originally we had to wait three years musing that vader lied to luke, only to find out the horrible revelation from yoda in jedi. The first movie IV made us trust obi-wan and like him, so we would be more willing to believe that old ben was telling the truth, and vader was lying.


I wish the dialog hadn't been changed either. . . just on principle. But how does the new dialog give any more away than the original dialog? He doesn't say that Luke is your son. He refers to "Anakin Skywalker" in the third person just as in the original ("the son of Skywalker"). And, I'm sorry, the line "how is that possible" could mean anything to anyone. It hardly says: "But I'm his father and I think Padme died before she had him!"

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Revenge of the sith revealed that the jedi were all too willing to lie for their own agenda, and do immoral things to achieve their ends.

The Jedi knew that a Sith was operating within the Chancellor's inner circle. How was it "immoral" of them to attempt to gain more information by requesting Anakin to report on Palpatine's doings and who he met with? They were trying to save the Republic, not the Order. Indeed, they even reluctantly realized that they might need to temporarily take control of the Senate until Palpatine's puppets were replaced by honest Senators. All of this is in the book, which is based on the screenplay by George Lucas. This "the Jedi deserved it" argument is getting sorta outta hand. I have no idea why our last few generations love to root for the bad guy so much.

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So palpatine lied to him, a lie with a grain of truth.

Again, he didn't know that Padme had died of a broken heart. . . how could he? He just knew that she died. He was telling Anakin what he thought was the truth. . . though he seemed to take pleasure in doing so. . .



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#111069
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/111069/action/topic#111069
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Who says I didn't photoshop (rotoscope) the whole scene?
Me. Considering it's the same frame as DE's. But why don't you just tell us. . . Did you rotoscope the whole scene?!?

And no, it isn't from whatever that was you said it was. I took the core from hi-res photos from ROTS and then added the glow to it.

That wasn't me.

Give me a break with the dishonest stuff. The original image uploaded was the wrong image, and more than likely your browser hadn't refreshed the image since I fixed it.
Possibly. But I doubt it. . .
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#111055
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/111055/action/topic#111055
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No need to get all upset.


Who's upset? But there is something inherently dishonest about posting an image, and then quietly changing it when it is criticized and then asking the critic to explain what is wrong with an image that he in fact never criticized (since it's now different). Why not just say: "Oh, here's another one. Is this better?" and be honest about it?

I only posted because your first attempt looked pretty bad (sorry) and I considered it to be in pretty poor taste to post your "fixed" version here in DE's thread when DE's in fact looks better (and entails a lot more than Photoshopping one frame).

H

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#111050
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/111050/action/topic#111050
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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
Originally posted by: Hurin
Uh, "fixed" is a subjective term in this case. The "fixed" one looks pretty darn fake to me. I like DE's version.

H



Really? What about it looks fake?


Well, it would help us to have a meaningful discussion if you didn't keep changing it!

It looks better now. But before, you had a very deep blue with a sharp distinction between the deep blue outer edge and the core.

Here's another picture of yours from another thread. Originally, your "fixed" one above looked more like Obi-Wan's here:

http://www.dor-lomin.com/ot-images/anhlightsaber3.jpg
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#111104
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"Hoooow is that possible..."
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/111104/action/topic#111104
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Entirely too much. Regarding Padme's will to live, there is no way that anybody who wants their kids would just lose the will to live once they're born. This was written by a man who has adopted his children, as Lucas has, and does not have biological children of his own. Unless Padme just didn't want these kids (which, in no way, comes across in this film), the sheer nature of having children would give somebody a reason to live, not to die. If she was mortally wounded, it could have believed it that she simply survived long enough for her children to live.

From the novel, one gets the feeling that Padme loves Anakin more deeply than anyone has ever loved anything. Indeed, even after all the horrible things he had done, she was still willing to forgive him and "go away" with him. It's intended as a "Romeo & Juliet" level of love. And, having lost him, she sees no reason to live. . . she is quite literally dying of a broken heart. She sees no point in going on without Anakin, and raising his children without him is not an option for her.

Is this lame? Well, I'm not a big fan of her "dying of a broken heart" either. But, you can't really state empirically (pardon the pun) that a woman just could *never* feel that way. Believe it or not, there are a lot of people who have children and never have that "parental gene" click on. Some people just don't bond with their children. I'm not saying that Padme was one of those people. . . but things just aren't so cut and dried as you seem to want to make it. It's at least conceivable to me that the birth of her twins might not restore Padme's will to live given who their father was, what he had become, and what she had lost.

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Regarding the "phone call" scene in ESB, are we to believe the Emperor doesn't have the intelligence (i.e. strategic information) that Vader does about the guy who blew up the Death Star? And are we to assume the Emperor isn't the least bit curious why Vader's taken the Imperial fleet off on a mission scouring the galaxy for some unnamed somebody or something? And if Vader has no problem dropping the Skywalker name to his officers, are we to assume he doesn't expect the Emperor will know pretty quickly what he's up to? These three added lines in ESB make no sense, even now that Ep III has played out. They are, quite simply, in the wrong place.

I believe Vader is in charge of finding the Rebels. The fact that this allows him to simultaneously search for his son is just gravy. I always assumed that Vader heard the name "Luke Skywalker" from his own network of spies. And that the Emperor probably heard the name as well from his own sources. In the OOT, it's hard to determine if the Emperor is referring to Luke for the the first time in Vader's presence, or if he's referring to him again, but now attributing him with powers that could destroy them. In the DVD-OT, it seems to me that it's being more clear that it is the former. But it's not drastically different either way as you could interpret the OOT to mean essentially the same thing. Indeed, you could interpret the DVD-OT to be saying that the Emperor has finally determined that this "Luke Skywalker" isn't just a pretender trading on a former Jedi's famous name (or the Rebellion may be using the name for propoganda). . . and that he truly is the son of Anakin.

It isn't common knowledge in the Empire that Vader was Anakin Skywalker, is it?

Anyways, there is so much to hate about what Lucas has done to the films. I just don't think this one warrants so much venom when there are much more egregious and problematic changes to be addresssed!
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#111040
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"Hoooow is that possible..."
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/111040/action/topic#111040
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I really don't see what all the hub-bub is about. . .

Anakin chokes Padme. . . he hurts her badly. She may die.

Obi-Wan defeats Vader and rushes Padme to a secluded place where she can get some treatment.

(according to the book) All her physical ailments are "repaired", but she has lost the will to live.

She has the babies, then dies.

(according to the book) Obi-Wan and Yoda conspire to hide the children and even have the foresight to make it look as though Padme's body is still pregnant for the funeral (Though, oddly, they don't think to change Luke's last name).

Padme still appears pregnant at her funeral.

So, the Emperor and Vader can see that Padme died. . . and every indication is that she died along with the child (Anakin didn't know about twins). The Emperor isn't necessarily lying to Vader. They can both see for themselves that Padme is dead. How are they to know that it wasn't Vader's actual crushing of her trachea that killed her?

Vader later learns about Luke's existence from spies after the battle of Yavin. He's putting up a poker-face with the Emperor in ESB during their conversation (because he was hoping to find him and turn him to the Dark Side *before* the Emperor was aware).

What's so freakin' screwy about that?

H
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#109375
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ROTS: Palpatine's Diatribe
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/109375/action/topic#109375
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I've heard a lot of different theories about the face shriveling. From damage from "reflected force lightning". . . to his redirecting all his power into the battle (thus not being able to hide his true face any longer, though this doesn't explain why he didn't put the mask back into place after the battle. . . or did he want to use it to get sympathy from his scars in the Senate?).

The Visual dictionary says both, I believe. I was looking at it in the bookstore and it says both that he was damaged in the entry for the Chancellor. . . and then at the end of the book for the Sidious entry, it says that his true face was revealed. Sounds like a bad editor.
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#109354
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ROTS: Palpatine's Diatribe
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/109354/action/topic#109354
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I don't think it was Lucas's intent for us to believe that Windu actually defeated Palpatine. After all, if Sidious could be killed at that time by Windu, then there wouldn't be much point to the prophecy that says that Anakin will kill him. I think Palpy was just faking it in order to gain Anakin's sympathy and trick him into coming over to the Dark Side (by striking Windu).

H