Hummis

Can I get a PM link please?

jimbotron235 said:

Hummis said:

Now, if only someone would remove the dirt, hair, and scratches from the film, then we would have a true remaster on our hands.

Edit: Or at least as a separate project, in case some people like the dirt, hair and scratches that are in the 35mm Version.

As available 35mm scans go, these are remarkably clean to begin with. But I too would welcome such a project. In addition, reproducing the extended cuts of TTT and ROTK and “35mm-izing” the extended cut footage to match the rest.

Speaking of welcomed boons, I think the 35mm Editions could also benefit from:

1. Giving the Theatrical and Extended Editions of FOTR some chapter markers, since TTT and ROTK are not lacking in those,

2. Some additional audio options, mostly for multiple languages and commentary,

as well as,

3. Subtitles for the deft of hearing, as well as for multiple languages and commentary.

Now, if only someone would remove the dirt, hair, and scratches from the film, then we would have a true remaster on our hands.

Edit: Or at least as a separate project, in case some people like the dirt, hair and scratches that are in the 35mm Version.

Connormm said:

I literally came to ask a similar question as I have done a side by side comparison with the original 2011 Blu ray and the dremasters.

Granted I am watching the dremaster on my 1080p phone (not sure if the phone is automatically downscaling it from 4k to 1080p through the google photos app?) but I did definitely notice less grain in the dremaster compared to 2011 Blu ray remaster.

I have also played the file on my 1080p tv and noticed the same reduction in grain.

I understand the original notes for the dremaster say it will “cleanup” the grain but I would be curious to have the 1080p edition before the upscaling process to 4k. 🤷

Also, my guess is that, maybe the Dremasters weren’t trying to remove the grain, but to mitigate any digital noise in the footage. It can be easy for people to confuse digital noise for grain sometimes.

Connormm said:

I literally came to ask a similar question as I have done a side by side comparison with the original 2011 Blu ray and the dremasters.

Granted I am watching the dremaster on my 1080p phone (not sure if the phone is automatically downscaling it from 4k to 1080p through the google photos app?) but I did definitely notice less grain in the dremaster compared to 2011 Blu ray remaster.

I have also played the file on my 1080p tv and noticed the same reduction in grain.

I understand the original notes for the dremaster say it will “cleanup” the grain but I would be curious to have the 1080p edition before the upscaling process to 4k. 🤷

I never heard anything about this project saying that it will “cleanup” the grain, but that’s not my main concern.

What really concerns me is how upscaling can accidently redraw details in the picture without enough data to guide it.

The shot where Sam greets his daughter is a good example. I did a comparison of that picture in the ROTK 4K Dremastered thread, with the picture used in the Caps-A-Holic website. The pictures don’t match perfectly due to them coming from different frames, but they match well enough for me to notice how the patterns on the door archway of Sam’s house are interpreted differently in the 4K Remaster.

The patterns on the door archway in its native resolution (or in 1080p) still look a little blurry, so without enough data to interpret what the patterns look like, it looked like the program used to upscale the footage had no choice but to make a guess.

I also wouldn’t mind getting the links to those movies, if that’s okay.

I need to get this off my chest. The 1080p Dremasters that are still a work in progress, are they going to be straight up remasters of the old blu-rays without the upscaling (color correction and grain included), or are they simply downscales of the already upscaled 4K Dremasters?

I’m hoping it’s the former because (I’m sorry if I’m sounding a little fussy but) I can be skeptical of this upscaling technology because said technology is still far from perfect. It can still make mistakes in the image when some details in said image are hard to decipher.

If I wanted a film or video of a lower resolution to be watchable on a 4K TV, I would take a more cautious approach by simply slapping a spline36 upscale filter on it and call it a day.