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#1350586
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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jonh said:

I don’t know if it has been discussed … but suddenly an idea occurred to me …
and if king, instead of palpatine’s granddaughter, is a being created by palpatine with the dark side (like the legend of darth plegueis).

the way to fix it, would be a voice impersonator of kylo ren, eliminating the granddaughter’s, and adding new lines.

even if we had a palpatine impersonator too hahaha, we could add lines at the end of the movie, in exegol, like these:

First I created Anakin skywalker, but his body burned, then I tried with his son, but his father killed me.

And then, I created you … to possess your body, and be eternal

I know, it’s crazy hahaha

Some version of this has been in my head for a while also. It solves so many problems and can probably be done with light trimming and a bit of dialogue replacement (Kylo is doable as this forum has proven, and there’s a decent amount of very good Palpatine impersonators out there). Rey essentially becomes Anakin 2.0, thus eliminating Rey Palpatine, drawing a more concrete connection to the prequels, and giving more meaning to Rey taking the Skywalker name at the end. It could also add some subtext to the force dyad, as both Rey and Kylo have that origin in their blood (albeit two generations removed for Kylo). Lastly, I think it is a good change that makes you re-examine Palpatine’s motives in the prequels. He created Anakin so that eventually Anakin would turn his blade on him and Palpatine could transfer his soul into Anakin’s body. But when Anakin became disfigured, Palps had to put his plans on hold, eventually hoping Luke will take his place. We all know how that worked out. After his defeat at the hands of Vader, he regroups and eventually creates Rey- the child of an ill-fated woman on a backwater desert planet.

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#1348236
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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thebluefrog said:

There may be a way to do an edit that shaves off all the extra pointless characters and mixes TLJ and ROS into a more coherent storyline.

I was actually thinking of a ST edit that removes Snoke! Well - almost. It would trim him down to just a few lines speaking only in Kylo Ren’s head. All appearances and references to him by name be cut. The First Order has no supreme leader, they are just Imperial remnant. Kylo Ren joined the First Order on his own accord and with his obsession with Vader in mind (who’s voice also speaks to him a few times).

Kylo communing with disembodied voices will kind of evolve from film to film- in TFA Kylo Ren will be guided by the mystery voice of Snoke, taunting him about not being as good as Vader. In TLJ, Kylo will still be communing with Snoke, but he will also begin to hear from the voice of Vader a few times, which sends him off to Mustafar in the end (but we don’t go there until the beginning of TROS). Then in TROS he learn the truth that it was Palpatine all along.

Obviously there would be plenty of logistical issues, for example the entire Throne Room scene from TLJ is gone automatically, Rey leaves Luke and then immediately lands on Crait to rescue the team. Those are some pretty important beats in the flow of that movie, so there would be a lot of collateral damage that would need mending.

But overall I think a big change like this, which would force plenty of smaller changes and cuts, could really help to clean up the story without asking the audience to roll their eyes any more than they already are with the official releases.

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#1347766
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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NeverarGreat said:

I don’t buy for a second the argument that the movie was dealt a shit hand from which to build from.

Agreed. The only bad hand they were dealt was the loss of Carrie, and no matter how they handled it, that was pretty much always going to be the most forgivable component of the film. Everything else feels like it was picked piece by piece out of a random Star Wars plot generator. I don’t hate it, but it’s definitely disappointing to think about what could have been- not just for the TROS but for the sequels as a whole.

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#1343713
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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My dream for the end of this movie would be to include a brown robed Ben Solo walking off of the falcon and out away from the Lars homestead, seeking isolation. Shortly after, when Rey looks off and sees the ghost twins, you first see Ben Solo walking away in the distance before they fade in before her. Obviously that would also mean cutting his death from earlier on.

Oh, and following it up with the shot of the falcon jumping to hyperspace. The work on that is excellent!

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#1338745
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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AbramPT said:

I was going over the most recent draft of the crawl, and while it’s very good, I have just one suggestion.

Original:
“A shadow has consumed the galaxy. To suffocate the spark of rebellion, the First Order has scattered and isolated those with the bravery to face the darkness.”

Grammatically, it feels a little weird starting a sentence with “to”. I think a brief edit to something like “The First Order has scattered and isolated those with the bravery to face the darkness in an attempt to suffocate the spark of rebellion” OR “In an attempt to suffocate the spark of rebellion, the First Order… Etc.”

Something like that. I hope I’m not being too nitpicky!

I agree, I think starting the sentence with “To” seems a bit off.

I have a nitpick of my own, but its more just a personal preference. Does anybody else feel like the sequel content really beat us over the head with the spark/flame metaphor? Similar to how Rogue One and modern OT-era content seems throw the word “hope” around with reckless abandon. Personally, I appreciate those types of metaphors more in smaller doses. I would love to see that particular line swapped to something like “In order to prevent an uprising, the First order has scattered…” But maybe that’s just me.

I am genuinely curious if anybody else feels the same way about the use of spark/flame/hope stuff though? Cool beans.

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#1338218
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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RogueLeader said:

I think I have to agree that showing an amalgamation would only be confusing if we have never seen him that way.

Alternatively, if you tried to depict a Hayden-Shaw amalgamation, or a very old Hayden, I think it would work better to change Shaw’s appearance in ROTJ to establish that look and for it to be not be confusing.

It might be difficult to craft the right amalgamation, but I think there is probably a perfect middle ground between an aged up Hayden (similar to Sade’s example) and whatever sources we can find for an age appropriate Shaw. I don’t think it would be confusing as long as it looks sufficiently similar to Hayden for the audience, and sufficiently similar to unmasked Shaw to provide visual consistency from Luke’s perspective.

I think I’m going to try and start looking for some high quality Sebastian Shaw sources to pull from and see if I can mock something up myself. Man do I love this forum.

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#1331160
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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idir_hh said:

In the early leaks she said that she sensed the birth of her son and so she wanted to give up the jedi path because of that (which follows logically) and goes hand in hand with the EU. In this version its pretty contrived and convoluted since Ben does die and even worse he was a student of the darkside, so her leaving the jedi path because of sensing his death is self defeating and just doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Fair enough. To me it says that force premonitions are, in a way, unavoidable outcomes. Anakin tried to gain more power to overcome his premonitions, where as Leia gave up her power to try and avoid hers. Both resulted in the inevitable outcomes, but Leia’s more selfless path allowed her to die in peace and save her sons soul.

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#1331106
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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idir_hh said:

"Leia told me that she sensed the death of her son at the end of her Jedi path, she surrendered her saber to me and said that one day, it will be picked up again by someone who will finish her journey "

JJ
This. Makes. No. Sense.

Eh, I don’t mind it all that much. Obviously we don’t necessarily know what Leia’s ultimate journey could have been, but at least somebody did end up picking up her saber again to defeat the dark side. Mainly, I just appreciate that the theme of this little expository blip counters Anakin’s mindset in Ep3.

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#1316947
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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Disney sabotaging their own film is blatantly BS. That being said, I don’t think it’s that much of a stretch to at least consider that the WB/Bad Robot deal may have been a catalyst for Bob Iger exerting some creative power over this film.

Cue speculative alternate narrative…
JJ signed on under the condition of almost full creative control, Bob reluctantly agrees knowing that JJ might be a good asset to have in his pocketbook. WB deal happens and now JJ won’t be working with Disney again anytime soon, so Bob likely felt he could reverse course and put out the movie he (and whoever other non-creative executive types) thought would be most profitable.

I’m not saying it’s probable, but it’s way more likely than the vindictive sabotage portrayed in the leak. If there is any truth to the leaks, this could be a classic case of telephone.

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#1314180
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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ChainsawAsh said:

I’d say that contradicts more than just the prequels.

Han’s appearance is entirely metaphor for Ben’s emotional journey in that moment. It’s him finally processing what he’s done. Han isn’t literally standing there and shouldn’t be portrayed as such.

My first impression of that whole sequence was that it simply was just Ben’s memory of Han, all happening inside his head, but represented in person for us “outside” viewers.

But… If it’s possible to eliminate Rey stabbing and healing Kylo, then the sequence can be tightened up to: Leia lays down to contact Ben, As Kylo he gets distracted by Leia’s call for just a moment allowing Rey to run away. Shortly after, cut back to full scene of Ben on the ledge with Han. Immediately follow that up with Leia fading away.

In the film, this sequence is broken up by a few other sequences which takes away from the clarity of what is happening and why. By tightening it up (of which there may be many hurdles to doing cleanly) it would give that moment more weight by emphasizing that Leia used the rest of her life force to grant Ben this moment with his father. It also gives Leia a parallel moment to what Luke had in TLJ, dying by overexertion of using the force to perform an extremely powerful act.

I’ve seen TROS twice, but I had this idea after seeing it the second time, so I can’t recall whether any other sequencing or necessary dialogue cues would prevent this.

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#1306601
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<em>The Mandalorian</em> Discussion Thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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timdiggerm said:

I am really looking forward to any behind-the-scenes they do on the effects work on this. I’ve heard Kuiil referenced as being motion-captured, but that sure looks like a physical costume. And the Yadpole is so, so likelike. It’s amazing.

I believe I read that Kuiil was portrayed on set by a small woman wearing an animatronic mask which was controlled via facial motion capture on Nick Nolte. Just going off some random article though, no solid proof on that.

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#1297481
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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ATMachine said:

I suspect the wardrobe given to Carrie Fisher didn’t help. The way that dark dress billowed around her made for a disturbing resemblance to Mary Poppins.

Still not sure why JJ put her in a dress at the end of TFA instead of leaving her in the more tactical wardrobe from earlier in the film. She’s the leader of a military faction, not a dignitary. And then considering TLJ is meant to pick up immediately afterwards, why is she again in a new get-up?

This is the stuff that keeps me up at night. Not those common complaints like Leia Poppins and Mary Sue and Giant Space Walrus Milking lol.

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#1295306
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Han - Solo Movie ** Spoilers **
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Creox said:

Humby said:

DominicCobb said:

Hal 9000 said:

So Han and Lando only knew each other for a relatively short time across two or so adventures?

Says who?

Yeah, I think the ending does a good enough job implying that these two continue to have a friendly rivalry throughout the years following.

That being said, I’d say it was a big mistake to pack everything we’ve heard about Han Solo’s past into one movie.

-Kid from Correlia
-Joins the empire & abandons it
-Meets Chewbacca and partners up
-Meets Lando
-Makes the Kessel Run
-Loves, loses her, becomes cold
-Becomes a “shoot first” kinda guy
-Wins the falcon

Yeesh. It blows my mind that Kasdan wrote this.

Kasdan may have rightly understood this was probably the one kick at the can he or others would have in telling Han’s story. I guess he wanted to get all the pertinent parts included.

Yeah, and I don’t blame him alone for it. This movie had everything going against it. No one wanted it, Han was being recast, the director(s) debacle, etc. And given all that, I actually think it’s a decent movie despite most of my criticism. It’s just wayyyyy too on the nose.

canofhumdingers said:

And, while perhaps little solace, it is worth noting that the events in the film do in fact span several years’ time.

Little solace indeed lol. For me it’s just the fact that it’s all crammed into one movie. Like I said, I actually think it’s a decent flick, but at the end of the day it’s like a (insert favorite band here) greatest hits album played by a coverband.

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#1295302
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Han - Solo Movie ** Spoilers **
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DominicCobb said:

Hal 9000 said:

So Han and Lando only knew each other for a relatively short time across two or so adventures?

Says who?

Yeah, I think the ending does a good enough job implying that these two continue to have a friendly rivalry throughout the years following.

That being said, I’d say it was a big mistake to pack everything we’ve heard about Han Solo’s past into one movie.

-Kid from Correlia
-Joins the empire & abandons it
-Meets Chewbacca and partners up
-Meets Lando
-Makes the Kessel Run
-Loves, loses her, becomes cold
-Becomes a “shoot first” kinda guy
-Wins the falcon

Yeesh. It blows my mind that Kasdan wrote this.

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#1281351
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Lucasfilm's movie plans post Ep. IX
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Anakin Starkiller said:

Really? The Mandalorian looks so uninteresting.

We really don’t have much to base anything on at this point aside from a Boba Fett style character in a Star Wars setting, and some leaked (and likely unfinished) celebration footage which at least shows a decent atmosphere of the show… I guess. I wasn’t horribly impressed by it to be honest, but I’m more concerned that the characters and story be well written and compelling. At least in those regards, I think I trust Favreau and Filoni to deliver something worthwhile.

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#1280326
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The Force Awakens: The Starlight Project - <strong>WORKPRINT RELEASED</strong>
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NeverarGreat said:

No worries, I appreciate your constructive criticism 😃

The un-dreamlike nature of the shots is the biggest problem for sure, but the length of the ending is actually shortened from the original, which was almost exactly 6 minutes from the shot of Chewie grieving to the end credits. My version right now clocks in at 4:45.

BTW, the entire edit sans credits is 2 hours and 13 seconds on the timeline, cutting 7 minutes from the original.

JEDIT: Updated the map reveal sequence slightly. Rey should probably be erased from the first shot of that scene since she’s supposed to be asleep and in the new costume, but that’s in the realm of the possible.

https://vimeo.com/334596045

Password: fanedit

I absolutely love this in concept, and I think you executed it incredibly well, nitpicks aside. I think initiating a more clearly defined dream quality to that sequence, and possibly a way to show her waking up, and this would be perfect.

The best part of this, in my opinion, is that the cloudy/foggy weather now fits perfectly as a slightly erie dream sequence, and doesn’t create the minor continuity error that exists between TFA and TLJ’s sunny shoot on Skellig Michael.

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#1266293
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Solo - A Star Wars Edit (Released)
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I was really disappointed in this film after walking out of the theater. But I gave it another watch on Netflix the other night, and I found myself really enjoying most of it.

I’ll definitely be checking this out before attempting an edit of my own.

I like the list of cuts, particularly the smaller ones I agree with most. I’ll definitely be making a lot of similar cuts if I ever get around to it. As well as a few other extraneously over the top or tongue in cheek moments.

I personally enjoy the backstory opening, but I admit it wasn’t handled all that gracefully so I’ll be interested in seeing how it feels without it.

And there was a good character there deep down with L3, they just went way too far with it, so definitely agree with trimming her time down a bit. Additionally (and I think I’m in the minority when I say) I just didn’t buy Donald Glover as Lando, so I plan on trimming some of his non-essential screentime. He just has too many cheesy moments that draw unnecessary attention to his swag and I think a less is more approach would help make him feel more in line with Billy D.

Congrats on the first full edit. I have yet to finish a single edit ever, some of them started years ago haha

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#1259827
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Please fix Leia in Rogue One
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I always felt as though the Leia scene was a nice Easter egg, but a little too in your face- plotwise.

The battle over Scariff should’ve been (in addition to destroying the shield) a distraction. While the battle keeps the Empire distracted, Leia’s ship is sitting further out in system waiting for the transmission. Nobody realizes they were there until Vader storms the last ship, and the Empire realizes they got duped. Wouldn’t even need the cameo, just a shot of Leia’s ship off in the distance jumping to light speed. Hmm, getting some desire to start a fan edit of this movie.

Anyways, I think there’s some really good potential to get a near perfect deepfake if you can find enough decent source photos. Even the one that was mentioned earlier I would call a passable attempt. It’s a pretty straight forward shot which always makes things easier.

EDIT: Just read through some earlier posts and realized NeverarGreat had the same idea. Glad to see I’m not the only one who thinks the plans should’ve actually been transmitted to her ship.

NeverarGreat said:

Mocata said:

To fix it would be easy, just delete those scenes. No cringe and better continuity.

It would be cool if some fanedit showed the Rebel soldiers frantically transmitting the plans to the Tantive IV, floating somewhere at the edge of the Scarif system. It would still use the Leia CG, but would make for much better continuity.

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#1256519
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The Last Jedi- Full Movie Re-Edit
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arosa1091 said:

Don’t get all the hate for Ivan. All Youtubers use Patreon. I understand why some might consider it an ethical issue,but its out of our control. Drop it and get over it. He’s gonna be remembered as one of the greatest fan editors because of what he’s doing to TLJ.

I don’t even think it’s the ethical issues that bother most people, but rather the implications it may have on the fanfilm/fanedit community as a whole.

Lucasfilm has been pretty relaxed with the fact that Star Wars fans are out there and distribiting their copyrighted material. And this site in particular has been very careful to play safe, by not linking directly to downloads, keeping online materials password protected and out of sight of the general public, and recommending that users legally purchase/own the source material, etc. Not many big franchises would allow the type of thing we do here to grow to this level. This was a big concern during the Disney acquisition. Many were worried that Disney would pull the plug on Lucasfilm’s history of leniency with communities like this.

Advertising his project the way he has, and asking for an income stream not just to fund the project but to make a living (even if it is just temporary) is exactly the kind of thing that could push Disney to police for these projects much more heavily and shut them down, putting the entire community at risk.

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#1226490
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SOLO: A Star Wars Story - Fan Edit Ideas Thread
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SleepyBear said:

Cut L3-37 out completely since she’s simply there to make Lando look like a panasexual character, which he isn’t.

One could achieve the same effect by simply cutting about three or four of her lines. That being said, nothing she said actually gave any credence to the pansexual Lando story. Most of that stuff said far more about L3 than it did Lando.

I found the constant barrage of equal rights jokes to be far more distracting. The first quip was quite funny, but by the end of the Kessel sequence it was just a chore. And even that can be fixed by removing just a few lines.

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#1219270
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The Boba Fett movie
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Hardcore Legend said:

If I don’t get the Solo sequel to finish where they were going with Maul/Dawn and Lando/Han…

I’d rather they carry the Maul storyline into another movie rather than a sequel to Solo.

As much as I actually enjoyed Erenreich as Han, I’m ready to move on. He can pop up for a few scenes in other stories, or even the Boba Fett movie if it ends up happening, but he doesn’t need a sequel. And I seem to be one of the very few people who thought Donald Glover’s Lando was the worst part of the movie, so I hope we don’t see him again at all.