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Davnes007 said:

I didn't have a problem with Yoda having a saber battle......but the growling/yelling/whatever was silly and awkward.

....And both saber battles, Ani vs. Dooku and Yoda vs. Dooku, were pathetically short.

:(

For me, IF Yoda was to have a sabre duel, it should've been reserved for Sidious. Then, and only then, should we have seen Yoda wield his 'little' lightsabre. And no ridiculous jumping and flipping like he's on some ultra strength cocaine or something! And WHY did he throw the towel in so quickly? I mean..(no, I've already debated this elsewhere don't waste your breath) 

No disrespect Nightstalkerpoet, but did anyone else on this forum feel, after seeing Yoda flip around off the walls and stuff, a slight tinge of sadness that this noble and wisened old sage we'd come to revere had been turned into a midget green ninja from some obscure video game?...no?..Just me then (shrug)

ToscheStation said:

imperialscum said:

Maybe ESB has a little better acting but that is reasonably so because the story/script offered a bit more and because twice as much time was spent on principal photography compared to either ROTJ or SW.

    ESB also spent "twice as much time" going over-budget..........

Making the OT was fraught with problems. And as for ESB going over budget, I think it's fair to say it was worth it in the end. It was a risk offcourse, but then again that's what life's all about. 

I remember going to see Jedi in Leicester square when it 1st came out. Taking the day off school (I was 8) going with my dad. I still remember to this day the guy in the Vader costume outside scaring the s**t out of me! Lol. I was transfixed by the film, it was fantastic. Jabbas palace, the biker chase, the end battle, everything. Through my teens I kinda grew out of Star Wars but rekindled my interest in my 20's. And watching the OT again through aged eyes the flaws with the films are plainly evident, especially Jedi. But despite that,I will always love the films. These trivial nitpicks I often hear about the asteroid cave scene in Empire (walking in a weightless environment and the other rubbish) are nonsensical. For me, ESB is flawless. Star Wars isn't science fiction. It's fantasy that happens to be set in space. Star Trek, for example, is science fiction. 

1. ESB

2. ESB

3. ESB

4. ANH

5. ANH

6. ROTJ

DuracellEnergizer said:

 

Hey, it's me. said:

So I take it this book is going to elaborate on Obi-Wan learning from Qui Gon in his exile on the wastelands of Tatooine? For that fact alone I shall be giving it a miss thank you. Just the mere mention and thought of that supposed 'character' makes me look like I'm sucking on a lemon.

Oh, he's a character, alright ... just not in any universe the OOT takes place in.

 

Yeah a character that made you feel like you were drowning in wall paper paste. I've heard some say he was the best 'character' in TPM? But that's not saying much. It's kinda like saying, "OH Good I've got syphillis! The best of the STD's. 

So I take it this book is going to elaborate on Obi-Wan learning from Qui Gon in his exile on the wastelands of Tatooine? For that fact alone I shall be giving it a miss thank you. Just the mere mention and thought of that supposed 'character' makes me look like I'm sucking on a lemon.

ray_afraid said:

chyron8472 said:

I love ROTJ, so that's a good thing. The Ewoks and Boba Fett's death never bothered me at all.

Me neither, but those two things are hardly what's wrong with ROTJ...

Precisely. I too love ROTJ but there are things wrong with it. Everyone surviving is something that has always nagged me, amongst others.

Oh Thoughts on JJ directing? Well, Star Trek was ok and Into Darkness looks pretty good. So, cool. Star Wars reached nadir (IMO) after the PT so its in the realms of impossibility that it could get any worse. 

Me and my FRIENDS who went to see TPM were. Jeez

DuracellEnergizer said:

^That's disingenuous - Disney was producing quality material back then.

Well we were in our mid twenties back in 99 so Disney wasn't something we were necessarily interested in, frankly. TPM was a huge lump of disappointment for us. 

DuracellEnergizer said:

^That's disingenuous - Disney was producing quality material back then.

Well we were in our mid twenties back in 99 so Disney wasn't something we were necessarily interested in, frankly. TPM was a huge lump of disappointment for us. 

Remember after seeing TPM at the cinema with a few pals for the first time that one of them commented afterwards, "that was like watching Disney does Star Wars." Who'd have known 14 years later? (shrug) 

Fett was one of my favourites aswell. Just because he had that aura of smart, hard, cool about him. He was out to earn his crust as a bounty hunter and didnt give a **** how he got the job done. The battle scarred Mandalorian armour was all part of his mystique. If you had a high bounty on your head then you knew the infamous Boba Fett was after ya. And the PT ruined him. I didnt need to know who his dad was, and that he was an annoying,irksome brat. That's not how I'd envisaged him after ESB. I'd imagined some kind of slave (hence the ship name) who had a rough childhood, escaped slavery, and was forced to get by on his own. And life experience turned him into a tough SOB who eventually became a bounty hunter. A notorious bounty hunter. The (original) voice did fit that portrayal. Cold and calculated. Morrison is a very good actor, in 'Once We Were Warriors' he plays a violent, abusive, alcoholic bastard and he does it extremely well. So Jango didnt really test his acting prowess and he sleepwalked through the whole thing, probably. But the kiwi twang isn't something you relate to Fett and the AOTC ruined his mystique.

Tyrphanax said:

Tobar said:

Bubba Feets: Terrible at Everything

Interested to hear Tyr's reaction to this. =P

I've actually given this a lot of thought (obviously).

It's totally true that if you look at Boba's accomplishments onscreen in Empire, it's not an impressive record; he's only onscreen for a short time, doesn't have any huge explosive battles where he does cool stuff, his name is never mentioned, he only has a couple lines, he doesn't really do all that much, and if you watch that prototype video of his armour, you see he doesn't even get to use half the functions they built into it. Honestly, if he didn't look so damn cool, people would probably not like him so much, and that coolness is his complete appeal.

The thing about Boba that makes him so cool is his subtlety, and for that we have to give Jeremy Bulloch his due. He took a character that otherwise did really nothing exciting (onscreen) and turned him into a badass (beyond already looking like one), just by playing it cool and confident. And he did do cool stuff in the film; just subtle stuff: somehow knowing the Falcon was disabled and would hide in the garbage to escape, tracking it to Bespin undetected, talking back to Vader/staring him down like it was nothing, almost blasting Chewie, knowing Luke was there and almost blowing his head off, and capturing one of the most-popular main characters of the series.

I'm not going to claim Jeremy Bulloch as the greatest actor ever just because I'm a Fett fan, but I really do think his acting was the complete difference between a forgettable secondary, background character, and a fan-favourite, cult-following-level primary character with a ton of EU about him. Bulloch managed to make the character stand out by just taking a cool-looking character and complimenting that with cool-looking acting; just making very slow, very concise, very deliberate, very confident movements turned Boba from scenery into a real character that people wanted to learn more about.

Also not to be ignored is Jason Wingreen's vocal performance; Boba not only looked badass and moved like a badass, but sounded like one as well. Just the perfect gruff, hardened, gravelly voice you'd expect a guy like Fett to have.

I utterly hate that Lucas took the route he did with the whole origin story crap. Bah. Now Wingreen's great voicework has been totally replaced and I have to deal with a reminder of the prequels whenever I play a game with Boba Fett in it now, which I fupping hate. That's part of why I'm not super torn-up about 1313's likely cancellation: I was NOT looking forward to hearing Temuera Morrison (or worse, Daniel Logan) as Boba and wishing it had been a Wingreen sound-alike instead.

It's one of the worst changes of the films, honestly, regardless of your standpoint on Boba. In most games/shows/whatever, you can ignore prequel/SE nonsense, but Boba's new voice is there to stay, sadly, and will just follow us wherever we go.

The lived in look back. Especially Coruscant. The Empire being defeated has created a power vacuum (as with all dictatorships) different splinter cells all vying for power. Start VII with a street battle on Coruscant, big and epic, between two of the fractions. Who's fighting? Why are they fighting?! This is exciting!! Not everyone's still sitting around with their feet up after Endor reminiscing about the battle.

Firstly, the whole idea of a chosen one would have thrown in the bin. Anakin would've been a proper slave and not someone who helps out in a shop. Also, he would be in his early teens when we first meet him. His mother AND father would've been killed by the Tuskans when he was very young so he would be truly on his own. And he harbours a lot of anger because of that. Qui Gon would not have been a character (he was pointless) it would've been Obi wan that discovered him. Hmm what else? Maul would've survived until Sith and Anakin would've been the one to kill him, witnessed by Palpatine. No midi chlorians and Gungans (goes without saying) The Clones would've been the enemy and not the droids. The Republic army would've been created through conscripts (real people) I'm not gonna rewrite the whole trilogy here, but these are some of the ideas I personally think would've made the PT a lot better.

Both. You can't differentiate between the two. Plus a decent script and and a director who knows how to tell a story. (Irwin Kershner springs to mind)