Harmy

^Spoken like a true gentleman :-)

Oh yeah, sorry, it was a mistake! Good eye!

@Jan: You wonderful man, you did it! I f*cking love you for that. What a relief :-)

@You Too: That's weird, I'll give it a look - it definitely has the same settings throughout; the change must already be on the BD.

@Jan: Here's the sample of the Leia scene encoded in UtVideo RGB - if you could find a way to encode a BD compliant video from it while keeping the colours the same, it would be awesome:

http://uloz.to/xiS22xh/leia-rgb-sample-avi

Otherwise, I think I could live with the more orangey reds, I actually think that the Han shot looks a little better that way.

So does this mean that upon conversion to BD encoding, the colours will always crap out this way? Because it sure seems so :-/ Also, with the RGB setting, the UtVideo codec only makes it about half the size of my previous lossless encodes, whereas with the YUV it makes it about 1/3, does this mean that some colour information is lost in the RGB to YUV conversion?

@Laserschwert: Unfortunately, I'm using an older version of AE which doesn't have this function. The best I can do at this point is crop the sides of the shot slightly and put a tiny black bar on the side (which is something that happens all the time even in professional transfers, so I think I'm gonna do it).

Have you read my previous post?

OK, choosing the UT Video RGB option seems to have reproduced the colour faithfully to what I had in the project. Would it cause any problems if I used that for the final encode?

Also thanks for the help with how to choose a different codec in Premiere. It looked like the Microsoft AVI option didn't support HD but I was able to change the resolution once I chose the UT Video codec. Having smaller lossless files will make everything much easier. And unlike the previous lossless files, my computer is able to play these without stuttering! Awesome! Why couldn't I have found out about this sooner?

Also I'm doing all these renders without the "render at maximum depth" box checked, so it is 8bit rendering. Is this an issue? I'm really clueless when it comes to these things...

Well, I tried and it looks the same as the WP with the orange reds... :-(

On a brighter note, here's the fixed pandown and stardestroyer flyover shot, including a reconstructed frame, which was missing in the SE (one before last in the shot) and highlights fixed in the next shot:

http://uloz.to/x5Dj8pb/pandown-new-mp4

That's strange. Something must have crapped out in the rendering. As you can see in the screenshot, in my Premiere project, it looks just like your adjusted version (which is indeed what I want it to look like). What's even stranger though is that when I tried exporting it as Uncompressed AVI, which is what I wanna do for the final render, the result looks like you see in the bottom part of the screenshot:

You Too's adjusted version for comparison:

My project file (top) and uncompressed encode (bottom):

I seriously hate this sh*t! :-(

Yeah, I did all of them anyway :-)

You can check it out in WP3R2, it's less compressed there.

Laserschwert said:

In that case I'll add this shot to your to-do list ;-)

No way in hell :-) Also, I don't really see that much of a flicker in that shot, it seems more like the compression having a hard time dealing with the grain.

Is the color timing of the Blu-ray identical to the HDTV version? In that case switching footage shouldn't be that much of a problem.

More or less, yeah but I can't find the original project file for the shot.

Also, I've found another thing: The matte painting with the speeder flying into Mos Eisley has no gate weave either.

I'll see about it.

Actually, the shot mentioned there (Luke first igniting the sabre) is actually sourced from the HDTV broadcast in v2.0 because I did it before I got the BD.

Well, they're STAR WARS by name anyway. But then so is the Holiday Special...

Laserschwert said:

Nah, that image was taken from THIS thread. But I've PMed msycamore about it - maybe he can upload the whole JSC shot.

Based on a quick test with the still it's rather easy:

But it might look horrible in motion, who knows...

Yeah, I was gonna say, this would be totally easy in photoshop but in motion, it might be really hard - gate weave is the worst enemy when doing these.

Anyway, here's the shot in uncompressed AVI: http://uloz.to/xc63pRd/ronto-butt-4-1-avi

Oh, I thought you had the JSC because you posted the screenshot. I don't have it unfortunately. Only got that one shot of the speeder flyby from msycamore.

Laserschwert said:

The workprint looks great! Still, I've noticed a few things:

During the crawl and the pan down you've got a wonderful gate-weave effect going on, but it stops after the pan down, so that the stars, the planet and the moon now are rock solid, which is slightly distracting. Would it be possible to add a slight movement to the background, or - if that's not possible due to the layers - the whole image? I bet it wouldn't really matter if the ships flying by are moving a bit as well...

That's actually one of the things on my list.

In the shot of Luke igniting and swinging the lightsaber for the first time, the background (wall) is flickering.

Yeah, there's more of that going on. I think it's already in the source but it gets more visible due to the brightening I did.

In this shot the dome on the R2 unit (and the sunlit parts of the stormtrooper armors) is really blown out, and although I know that it looks like that on the GOUT as well, the JSC version (and the Blu-ray as well) definitely shows that there was more detail in those highlights before:

Have you thought about darkening your whites just a tiny bit and overlaying the JSC highlight onto those areas, to get the missing detail back in there? If I had both versions of the shot here, I'd really love to try that...

Well, if you want, I'll be happy to upload the lossless version of the shot for you (it's something like 600MB) and you can give it a shot.

Cool, thanks :-)

That would be great :-) I'm not going to bust my hump too much about having complete audio and subtitle tracks in the MKV and AVCHD releases, since it's so easy for people to mux in their preferred tracks if they're not there but I'd really like to have everything complete for the BD, since I want to have menus and stuff.

No, not bad... expected really. Over half of them were colour corrections and are already done now and the rest are mostly just smaller fixes but have to be done in AE.

Well, there could be like one frame difference here and there.

I've watched it too and already found over thirty shots I want to tweak.

BTW, I'd ask you guys to post any suggestions you might have in a form of screenshots from the WP (it gives me an idea of what shot it is without having to look for it in the file and it has the timecode as well for when I decide to work on it and I can just download the screenshots and put them in one folder and it will be easy to organize that way). Thanks. 

Edit: You Too: Yeah, there are lots of changes. Especially in the earlier reels.

I wonder where the images in this article come from? Their resolution seems to range from 4-8K.