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#1248367
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Is <em>Revenge of the Sith</em> the Best or Worst Prequel?
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TPM is the best PT film. If Jar Jar were portrayed differently (more Chewbacca, less child’s character), everything else would be fairly excusable and the film would be much more popular.

ROTS has terrible pacing. It seems to lurch forward with Anakin turning to the dark side, wanders off a bit, then comes back to it for no apparent reason. The final battle is fun though.

Attack of the Clones looks bad, has bad acting and the giant mystery in the film still makes no sense to me. Obi Wan and the idea of Dooku are the only good parts of the film.

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#1246979
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<em>Solo: A Star Wars Story</em> — Official Review and Opinions Thread — <strong>SPOILERS</strong>
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solkap said:

The scene where Han meets Chewbacca was covered in crap. Literally. Or at least some aggressively unpleasant looking mud. The whole visual aesthetic seemed to be to cover everything with filth because … well … I guess because they could. And because that seems to be their current approach to reinvention. In essence, take a product, cover it with extraneous junk, then falsely call it something new.

The planet is literally a mudhole bc of all the rain. It is brought up numerous times. They are in an open hole in this place, while it is raining. The poor conditions are to show that Han was sent to one of the worst places he could go (a pointless battlefront full of slaughter that is just an awful place to be) and that the wookiee prisoner is being imprisoned in unliveable conditions and is being fed other prisoners.

Hope that helps.

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#1230849
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Was Finn originally going to be a Jedi too?
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TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

Chewielewis said:

Because non Jedi can use lightsabers too. Remember a guy called General Grievous?

That’s your first choice? Remember Han Solo?

Opening a ice creature (poorly) counts as a non-Jedi using a lightsaber?

We’re talking combat here.

Corellians, during the purge, will begin by slaughtering sunbathers on beach planets until their feeble blade skills improve.

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#1230844
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

DominicCobb said:

People seem to think Rey’s journey is done and over with after TLJ, which is just absurd. The idea that Rey’s rejection of Kylo has more in common with Luke’s actions in ROTJ over ESB is just a silly reach for an argument that is on shaky ground. Rey conquered neither Snoke or Kylo (not even close).

No need to go further in depth than that, I’ve said it all before.

Not even close? With Snoke dead and all of Kylo’s training allowing him to almost equal Rey, who recovers from their battle long before him?

Rey was dead if not for Kylo. She had no way out. Even though Kylo claims that the girl killed Snoke, this is not actually true if you watch the whole film.

I’m not sure why recovering faster from a shockwave is indicative of ability, but okay.

Truly things look grim for our hero in the darkest chapter of this trilogy. How can she ever hope to defeat someone whom she always seems to beat and his army of tactical imbeciles led by a man so stupid that he fell for a prank phone call?

I am on the edge of my seat.

If you watch the films, she actually only beat him once, believe it or not, when he was severely injured. I could have sworn this has been explained before on this site but I could be wrong.

Actually, she shows that she is on equal footing with him in their final confrontation as well. He is not injured this time. They both reach for the Skywalker saber and reach a stalemate that explodes the hilt.

Healthy, she is his equal. Unless RJ was trying to show something else there.

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#1230546
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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TV’s Frink said:

Hardcore Legend said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

I really don’t see the point in bringing back Lando.

Because there was internet tantrums thrown after the last film,

There were internet tantrums thrown after all the Disney films.

I hate autocorrect. How do you autocorrect were to was?

Also, correct but this time it was louder.

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#1230522
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

Rey isn’t a Jedi yet.

Which begs the question what does Rey miss, that would prevent her from being called a Jedi? She has pretty much all the skills. She defeated Kylo Ren, resisted Snoke, and rejected Kylo Ren’s offer. What else is left for her to do, outside of defeating Kylo Ren again?

Being a Jedi is about more than just having all the skillz (which there’s no indication she has anyway). She defeated Kylo in a moment of weakness for him (and the next time she tried to face him she never even got to ignite her saber). She did not resist Snoke. And rejecting a single offer towards the dark side doesn’t mean that you’ll never face temptation again. Luke rejected Vader’s offer in ESB, don’t forget.

Rey has mastered every skill that every Jedi in the first 6 films exhibited. She did most of this within 30 minutes of having the Force Awakened.
-Force pull
-Mind reading
-Manipulation
-Levitation of objects
-Seeing the Future
-Mastery of lightsaber

Other than Force push,Force Ghost and this new projection thing Luke did, I can’t think of anything we have seen a JEDI do before that she hasn’t done.

And it is ok if she ends up being the greatest force user of all time. It is ok if she does new and exciting things with the Force. But as a viewer, in my opinion, she has to have ‘earned it’ narratively somehow. Either through a forgotten past or some other yet unseen reasonable explanation. Otherwise, using the Force isn’t a practice, a focus or a skill. It is a super power. And Rey is essentially Shazaam learning what new things she can do because she said the words “The Force”.

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#1230287
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Chewielewis said:

Hardcore Legend said:
What evidence? It isn’t that she knew about Luke because he was a Jedi, it was that she knew the stories of the Rebel Alliance. She was just as much a fangirl of Han Solo. Can we deduce she knew how to fix/fly the Falcon bc she knew everything about Han Solo, back to front? If so, no wonder Owen never told Luke stories about his father. He’d have become the best star pilot in the galaxy and a cunning warrior right there on the ground in the desert.

She knew Luke skywalker and she knew about the Jedi. This exchange from TFA.

          HAN
      There're a lot of rumors. Stories.
      The people who knew him the best
      think he went looking for the first
      Jedi temple.

                     REY
      The Jedi were real?

                     HAN
      I used to wonder that myself. Thought
      it was a bunch of mumbo-jumbo --
      magical power holding together good,
      evil, the dark side and the light.

                     (BEAT)
      'Crazy thing is, it's true. The
      Force, the Jedi, all of it. It's
      all true.

So it’s implied that Rey has heard these crazy stories too. Which we can safely assume would include Jedi using Mind tricks. In her world the Jedi are a myth, magical wizards who can move rocks and fuck with peoples minds.

But I never said thats How she could do the mind trick. She was able to do the mind trick because she gained that knowlege thorugh that Kylo mind meld. How does that work? The same way throwing a child into the deep end teaches them how to swim. You could say THE FORCE AWAKENED in her.

Rey knows how to fly because shes been around ships all her life, she knows the falcon because Unkar Putt owns it and shes probably been in it many times. In Star Wars, knowing how to fly is basically knowing how to drive.

Wait, are we saying Rey now gains her power in the Force through the linking of minds with Kylo? I just made that up in my previous post. Is there any explanation of that in the films or any other materials?

This ST might have been better served if when Snoke revealed he had linked Kylo and Rey’s minds, he also revealed that HE had been the one using the Force through Rey and all the things she had done in her escape in TFA were him manipulating her mind to embarrass his pupil (Kylo) and to draw out Skywalker. Then her fear that she was “nobody” and she had no part in this story was true. Kylo still kills Snoke but Rey, now broken much like Luke was at the end of ESB, must actually learn to use the Force to defeat Kylo.

Instead, she’s done everything she’s wanted to in the Force within 5 minutes of trying it the first time…without anyone prompting her on how to do it.

And we are assuming she’s heard enough stories about the Jedi on the desert planet she lives on with no parents, mentors or guardians to have taught herself to be a Jedi without even knowing it.

I just find it hard to believe no one in the story group or the LFL team working on the films told Rian if he’s going to go the route of her being a nobody with no ties to the PT/OT, you’re going to have to explain some of this on-screen or in EU.

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#1230205
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Chewielewis said:

Hardcore Legend said:
Ok, but we just have to assume that because she knew who Luke Skywalker was?

We dont have to assume that, we can deduce that through the evidence shown through the text.

So how did she know that Jedi can control minds. Just look at the film and the most likely answer is that since she knew OF the Jedi she probably knew what the Jedi could do. In TFA she get excited when she hears the name Luke Skywalker, Its a moment of “I know that guy and everything about him”, we can deduce that she’s heard the stories and knows them back to front. In TLJ She says the force is for “Lifting rocks” without ever seeing a Jedi lift rocks. Rey is basically an In universe star wars fan.

What evidence? It isn’t that she knew about Luke because he was a Jedi, it was that she knew the stories of the Rebel Alliance. She was just as much a fangirl of Han Solo. Can we deduce she knew how to fix/fly the Falcon bc she knew everything about Han Solo, back to front? If so, no wonder Owen never told Luke stories about his father. He’d have become the best star pilot in the galaxy and a cunning warrior right there on the ground in the desert.

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#1230166
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Chewielewis said:

Hardcore Legend said:
I watched TFA again the other day on TBS and I disagree even more now. Unless knowledge of how to use the force transferred to her from her mind link with Kylo, the simple fact that she on her own thought to use the Jedi mind trick needs some sort of explanation…unless I am forgetting something. Like, you don’t just come up with a Jedi force skill out of thin air at exactly the moment you need it. She doesn’t have to be a Skywalker, she doesn’t have to have a lineage of importance, but she has to have had some training early in life.

She knew about the Jedi, that much we know. And I’m sure that knowlege of the Jedi included what kind of powers they had such as the Jedi mind trick. She probably thought “Hey the force let me get inside Kylo’s head, let’s try it on this guy”.

Ok, but we just have to assume that because she knew who Luke Skywalker was?

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#1230158
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DominicCobb said:

SilverWook said:

This could all be fixed if it’s revealed she had a bit of training as a toddler by some forgotten survivor of the Jedi purge. 😉

I’d find that neither satisfying or necessary.

I watched TFA again the other day on TBS and I disagree even more now. Unless knowledge of how to use the force transferred to her from her mind link with Kylo, the simple fact that she on her own thought to use the Jedi mind trick needs some sort of explanation…unless I am forgetting something. Like, you don’t just come up with a Jedi force skill out of thin air at exactly the moment you need it. She doesn’t have to be a Skywalker, she doesn’t have to have a lineage of importance, but she has to have had some training early in life.

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#1230151
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

DominicCobb said:

ChainsawAsh said:

I find it interesting that they specifically said Carrie’s stuff would be unused TFA footage, implying that they won’t also be using any unused TLJ footage on top of that.

I think there probably just isn’t any unused TLJ stuff.

Which is a shame, I much preferred the lighting and costume from TLJ - she just looked so regal.

Totally agree. I’m kinda hoping they do some minor CG adjustments to her TFA outfit to at least make it seem different (there’s also the possibility that they’ll keep her as-shot long braid).

I think she will be heavily CGI’d. The performance will still be hers, the face and words all hers, but I imagine they will change her outfit and location to fit more closely with the film.

One rumor is that they are returning to Yavin base and it will be destroyed by the First Order. I could see them repurposing her scenes inside the command center in TFA to be in the Yavin base and she ultimately meets her death
helping them escape?

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#1229400
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I imagine they will over-compensate with all of the fan criticisms from the last film and JJ will try to make everyone happy this time around. I can’t see him taking a lot of risks. So, expect to see Luke be a super-jedi, Lando have an important role and Hux not be a comedy device this time.

shrugs shoulders

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#1229020
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Anakin Starkiller said:

Hardcore Legend said:

The playing up of the “end of the Skywalker Saga” is putting a ton of pressure on this film to wrap up an 8 film juggernaut. It also pretty much confirms that Kylo gonna die.

I really don’t get why people are saying that. Before Disney, people would’ve said the Skywalker Saga ended with RotJ, and Luke didn’t die in that. It’s not the end of the Skywalker lineage; it’s the end of a saga that just so happens to be in large part about the Skywalkers.

Before Disney, I think people more than likely would have said the story of Anakin Skywalker ended. After the prequels, the 6 films had a purpose and were tied up nicely. Before the prequels, the 3 films had a purpose (destroy the Empire) and were tied up nicely. By making this the conclusion of the “Skywalker Saga” , what is the main arc they are trying to wrap up? That the Skywalkers suck and the galaxy should be rid of them? Luke’s dead. Leia likely will die. That leaves Ben. If he is redeemed, then it is just Anakin’s story all over again without the 30 years of being the 2nd baddest dude in the galaxy and the 20 some years before that of being a Jedi warrior.

That doesn’t mean to criticize a film they haven’t even filmed yet. I just don’t see a) what there is to wrap up of the entire saga vs just wrapping up this trilogy and b) that there is no way they don’t continue this story in a decade with these characters/cast.

So, to me, the only way this “concludes the Skywalker Saga” is if the Skywalker bloodline ends with this film.