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Anakin Skywalker's turn to the darkside; your alternatives?

The Pre-Prequel Anakin Skywalker i (still) have in my mind after all these years is a noble & likeable man with extraordinary pilot skills. And he has enthusiastic ideals about peace, right and order.

He gets recruited by Obi-Wan Kenobi und becomes a Jedi Knight. Both fight in the Clone Wars. Due to the republic’s imminent downfall and his idealistic ideals Anakin is pressured to gain faster and more effective ways of the force to end the war. Eventually - with the help of Palpatine - Anakins uses dark side powers to end the Clone War. Due to the the seducing powers of the dark side Anakins once noble ideals about peace and order become more and more corrupted.

Anakin Skywalker is CONVINCED that the dark side of the force is the only way to keep peace and order in the galaxy:

“If you only knew the power of the Dark Side.”

“With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the galaxy.”

Changes to the Disney+ 2019 SE of the Original Trilogy

TK-228 said:

What about the Empire Of Dreams documentary? It says “edited for content” in the beginning. Anybody notice what they cut out?

I remember one shot where Harrison, Mark and Carrie are walking around the Death Star hangar set. Harrisons arms rest on Marks & Carries shoulders and all three walk toward the camera. And Harrison holds (i think in his right hand) a cigarette. It is clearly visible in the 2004 version.

That cigarette was censored at least one time, specifically for a public clip, which was shown at the Star Wars Celebration 2017 in Orlando.

Unpopular Opinion Thread

Unpopular opinion:

The Prequel Trilogy should have had a different Star wars (Main) theme during the opening crawl and the end credits.

Still to this day, everytime i hear the ‘OT’ Star Wars theme in one of the prequel movies, i’m thinking: since these movies deal with a different era and it’s visual aesthetics differ so much from the OT visuals, the main musical themes should also be different.

The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **

Rian Johnson Almost Used Anakin’s Force Ghost in The Last Jedi

“Briefly for the tree burning scene, but luke’s relationship was with Vader not really Anakin, which seemed like it would complicate things more than that moment allowed. Yoda felt like the more impactful teacher for that moment.”


Richard Marquand's effect on Return of the Jedi

Omni said:

Hoop28 said:

imperialscum said:

Hoop28 said:

So obviously Lucas had a much bigger presence during the making of Jedi than he did Empire, he was practically a Co-Director, but did Marquand leave any mark of his own on the film? I haven’t seen his other work so I can’t say, and I don’t know if Lucas has attempted to erase any sort of legacy Marquand had like he did so many others on the OT.

I think Marquand had pretty much the same role in ROTJ as Kershner had in ESB. In both cases Lucas led the creative part (story, characters, screenplay, world-building, etc.), while Kershner and Marquand led the implementation and contributed in various ways to the creative part. If you look at it like that, then Lucas was “practically a co-director” in both cases.

Like it was pointed out, Marquand had some important contributions to the creative part, besides directing the implementation. Like Kershner, I think he was a valuable part of the trilogy.

Well from what I heard, Lucas was annoyed with alot of the changes and alterations that Kershner made while directing Empire, so for Jedi he was on set way more than he was during Empire and reshot quite a few scenes, apparently the whole reason Jedi was filmed in the United States was so Lucas could be on set daily.

Lucas wanted to be as far away from the set as possible.

Nope. Not according to the Empire of Dreams documentary…


I hadn’t realized that ultimately it’s probably easier for me to do these things than to farm them out. Because [ROTJ] was even more complex than the last one, I really did have to end up being there every day on the set, and working very closely with Richard, and shooting second unit, and there was really more work than I thought it was going to be.

And MARQUAND once famously said:

[Directing ROTJ] is rather like trying to direct King Lear - with Shakespeare in the next room.

Discussion: Batsh*t crazy ebay listings

Take a look at this german ebay auction:

The seller has a “theatre preview flyer” (sorry, i don’t know the specific english term) which teases ROTJ with its original name


Very interesting…

4K restoration on Star Wars

Broom Kid said:

LexX said:

While that may be true for now, it can change easily.

[…] they obviously don’t believe […] Disney could […] it seems like Disney has decided […] It seems very, very much like […] it might be able […] it seems like Disney+ is going to be […] they don’t need to cater to it anymore, so they won’t […] They’ll maybe […] but I wouldn’t be surprised if […] Disney/Fox classics will be limited […] if Disney decides […] Piracy really isn’t that much of a concern […] and hasn’t been for long while […] It’s been more of a boogeyman […] I think if there are hopes […] maybe someday possibly […] It’ll be a bonus feature […] This announcement seems to be pointing that way.

Too M-U-C-H assumptions. Move along.

Try to take it easy with the Lucas bashing.

StarkillerAG said:

The bashing has kind of softened over the years, but it still feels like some people here don’t really appreciate George’s positive contributions to the Star Wars franchise.

Well, i would say it depends if his positive contributions outweigh his negative contributions. Unfortunately the latter ones made chronologically the stronger impact. That makes it harder to be forgiving i guess.

Revenge of The Sith four hour cut petition???

I don’t care about a ROTS 4-hour cut either, but i would like to see more deleted scenes, especially more of the Anakin-turns scenes from 2003. Lucas partially scrapped those when he made Anakins turn to the dark side merely Padme-centric during the 2004 reshoots. The 2003 version supposedly shows more of the “I should have known the Jedi are plotting to take over!” angle and also Palpatine grabbing Anakins lightsaber to fight Mace Windu.

Discussion: Little Men, Little Wars - Share Your Star Wars Collection

benduwan said:

Haarspalter said:

Harmy said:

That’s the third one from the right. The third one from the left was the one I was interested in 😉

It contains a fourth VHS cassette called “Classic Creatures: Die Rückkehr der Jedi-Ritter”. Possibly a making of featurette about the ROTJ puppets, ewoks, etc.

stimmt genau 😃

Thanks benduwan for making me aware that this VHS boxset even exists. 😃 I did not know that until Harmy pointed to it. I managed to purchase the same VHS set in good condition from ebay Kleinanzeigen a few days ago. I really like the white colored font. Until last year i also owned the second VHS set from the left, but i sold it again pretty quickly. The red colored font looks just gross.

<strong>Empire Strikes Back</strong> - 'Behind The Scenes / Making Of' <strong>images</strong> thread

SilverWook said:

ZkinandBonez said:

It took me a second to recognize Kasdan in the last two photos as he’s rarely present in BTS photos (which isn’t to strange considering people rarely bother to take photos of people writing movies).

I saw this photo so many times in the past few years. But a few moments ago i just noticed that R2 is also there! 😃

Poll: which ship would you wanna fly?

Not really a ship, but THIS

Preferably not in a forest 😉

Letter of recommendation to the Galactic Empire,

please deploy tactical ground troop vehicles sutitable for the respective planetary enviroment.

Slow dewbacks for open wide desert areas?
Fast speeder bikes for tree trunk-infested forests?

Someone needs to lose his job.

Sincerely, a worried Scout Trooper