HAttackontheBun

Saturn2888 said:

I’ve got a copy of the Cinema DTS with some open matte version (which might’ve come from this LaserDisc copy, but I was unable to sync it to my 2011 Blu-ray disc (my 4K disc has major DNR). I think the open matte version might be slightly too fast? That or the 2011 Blu-ray is too slow.

The Blu-ray is 3 seconds longer than the Cinema DTS soundtrack, and while it lines up at the beginning, as the movie goes on, it becomes more and more outta sync.

Is there a version of the LaserDisc soundtrack that I can mux into my Blu-ray rip?

I don’t know if the Cinema DTS track is kept in its’ original speed or slowed down a bit to 23.976 fps? That, and the Blu-Ray was sourced from the negatives?

simps said:

HAttackontheBun said:

Ok, I get where Trist is coming from considering that some people leaked this scan and went against his wishes, but he shouldn’t have shut down the project. Trist should’ve limited access to the scan to those who donated. Yes, he gave refunds to people who are still waiting for the final product, but that’s no excuse to hoard the files, cause what he did was untrustworthy.

Do you know who/where was it leaked to ? I just want a copy of the scan I helped fund. That’s it. I agree he should have made it limited access to the donors and none of these issues would be happening. People are just going to leak eventually, that’s reality. If he didn’t want leakers, he should have kept the scan to himself and not mention having it online. Plain and simple.

He did say that the leaks happened, but I don’t know where it’s leaked to?

Ok, I get where Trist is coming from considering that some people leaked this scan and went against his wishes, but he shouldn’t have shut down the project. Trist should’ve limited access to the scan to those who donated. Yes, he gave refunds to people who are still waiting for the final product, but that’s no excuse to hoard the files, cause what he did was untrustworthy.

simps said:

TristAndShout64 said:

I’m sorry everybody- but I’m refunding everybody who I haven’t sent the scan to yet.

This project has gotten uncomfortably big for me and I am obsessively paranoid about copyright issues, so I don’t want the final scan to become as widespread as I predict it to become.

I have found a large chunk of people in this community to be incredibly rude, disrespectful, and entirely ignorant of how dangerous it is to share these sorts of things on a widespread scale, and I don’t wish to associate with it any longer except for in as private of a context as possible.

The leaks that happened not too long ago have eliminated just about any trust I have for the majority of this community, and therefore I am no longer comfortable sending this film to so many people. This is a big reason as to why I have been stalling ever since the print got scanned- though the busy nature of my personal life certainly hasn’t helped.

Also, I hate to say it- but with where I am in life currently, I do NOT have the mental capacity to deal with this caliber of shit. It has become more stressful than fun at this point. I raised far more money than I ended up needing, so I feel that this is ultimately the right thing to do.

I have already refunded everybody on PayPal (except for a VERY small, as in single-digit, number of people who I trust), something to the tune of $500 total. The full scan will not be sent to anybody who hasn’t received it already, and I don’t recommend DMing me asking if you can donate or get the scan or have your donation back or anything along those lines, because I’m not going to respond. Clips of the scan may be uploaded to YouTube at some point, but only to an extent that doesn’t potentially incur any wrath from a certain large, soulless corporation that happens to own the film and all IPs within it.

My apologies to anybody who is disappointed by this. I started out extremely excited about the prospect of doing this project and sharing it with everybody who helped out- and in the end, I am extremely satisfied with how the scan looks, and I hope to share it in some capacity in the near or distant future. A lot of you were really cool when I messaged you and have been super patient, so I’m sorry that this is the way it has to be. Still, I need to put my real life before my life on the Internet, and this has simply become too much for me, so I’ve finally decided that this is what I must do.

If you’re depressed about all of this, just remember- this movie has DOZENS of releases and rereleases from over the years- all with different visual appearances- and has still remained entirely unchanged in terms of story and dialogue. All of the wittiness, the charm, and the incredible heart that we associate with 90s cinema and classic Pixar is still intact- this movie is KICK ASS no matter how you watch it!

Perhaps a full 35mm scan of this movie (be it mine or somebody else’s) will publicly surface one day- but even if it doesn’t, Toy Story is still one of the greatest animated films of all time. That’s what brought us together in the first place- great movies! 😃

To everybody who offered their support towards this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity- thank you for your passionate interest that you shared with so many other denizens here on the 'net. To my closest homies in this community- GOD BLESS YOU. #norbitrobbinscut 😎

~TristAndShout

Suffice to say, I am livid. This was the first project I donated to, and will likely be the last. To have us wait for so long and just be given that. You should’ve known better. If you donate and contribute to a scan project, donors should be given the scan, end of. Toy Story is one of my childhood movies, and to see a 35mm copy being hoarded, pisses me off. I don’t know what pisses me off more, the hoarding or the lies. While I did get a refund, it doesn’t make up for the fact that I was cheated and I’m sure everyone else feels cheated too. I may never send money to a scanning project ever again because you scammed me and all of your donors. The phrase “one bad apple, spoils the bunch” most definitely applies here. How can I trust anyone not knowing whether or not they’re just going to hoard it in the end ? While your project may have started with good intentions; the reason why I donated was to help you and so I would get a copy of the movie in 35mm in return. The fact you pull this shit is ridiculous and now comes off as you taking advantage of people that wanted to see a scan of this movie in 35mm. Especially given the alterations the movie has received over the years and hasn’t been theatrically accurate since the Laserdisc era.

The fact you say this :
“If you’re depressed about all of this, just remember- this movie has DOZENS of releases and rereleases from over the years- all with different visual appearances- and has still remained entirely unchanged in terms of story and dialogue. All of the wittiness, the charm, and the incredible heart that we associate with 90s cinema and classic Pixar is still intact- this movie is KICK ASS no matter how you watch it!”

You are pulling a George Lucas by saying “watch the movie as it is right now with all the alterations and that’s the definitive way to watch the movie and the original will be not available unless you buy an OOP DVD of a LD non-anamorphic transfer that has a ton of DNR.”

The right thing to do is give a link to the people who donated so they can download it.

I’m honestly considering breaking ties with Trtist…

EDIT: Maybe I jumped the gun?

Sambarker04 said:

Speaking of updates, I just got the Japanese DVD. It was a budget re-release from 2004 since one of the pamphlets included were ads for the home media release of Finding Nemo. Interestingly enough, it not only has the Japanese dub, but also the Korean dub as well, both only in Dolby Surround. I honestly found it interesting since Japan had already started to get into Dolby Digital in 1995 with Whisper of the Heart, and since Toy Story came out in Japan several months after that movie, I’d assume that if the Japanese dub only being in Dolby Surround was either Disney’s choice when they released it to DVD, or it’s the only source they had at the time, since Disney’s Japanese division may not have the budget for Dolby Digital yet. In fact, the Japanese dub of the second film was in 5.1 EX on its DVD release, and since I can confirm the Flemish dub on the UK BD was the original 5.1 theatrical mix with the Surround EX flag, despite the Dutch DVD release only being in Dolby Surround, it seems that Disney might did do the Japanese dub in 5.1 at some point, until it got lost in favor of the 2005 remix. Though for the dub only being in Dolby Surround on this DVD release, and since the Japanese language is recognisable enough to get a 5.1 treatment akin to French and German, I can tell that Disney Japan just isn’t ready for DD yet at the time.

On the Japanese poster, it has the Spectral Recording Dolby Stereo Digital logo, so I assume the Japanese dub’s mixed into 5.1 or the technology’s limited to the English track since there are screenings that contain the original soundtrack with subtitles.

Also, around 1996, Japanese dubs of both Disney and non-Disney animated films like Balto got the digital surround sound treatment (assuming that the aforementioned Hollywood/British produced animated production was the first to do so) and by 1998, prints of films started to utilize all of the 3 digital surround formats (Dolby Digital, DTS, and SDDS), so I do think the Japanese dub mixes are ported to them. I don’t know if Lion King or Pocahontas’s Japanese dubs got the Dolby Digital treatment albeit uncredited since I think there are theaters that screen Hollywood films in Digital Sound pre-Whisper of the Heart?

Ok. So, I compared the UMD release of this film to the Blu-Ray release and turns out that while both releases use the Rec.709 colorspace (or at least utilizing similar colorspaces), the Blu-Ray was more vibrant than the UMD.

Didn’t the 2009 Blu-Ray copy of Monster’s Inc have the 1995 Walt Disney Pictures logo in 1:78:1?

Sambarker04 said:

ChrisFratz said:

TristAndShout64 said:

Hey y’all– the final encode is FINALLY finished and I’m currently in the process of slowly but surely getting it out to people. Thank you for bearing with me!

My apologies, I have indeed been quite busy with my personal life being a bit of a mess at the moment. I will be messaging people individually and getting the necessary details to share the scan with them– just hang in there, we are so close!

~Trist

I’m excited and can’t wait to see it.

Same. Right now the release is taking forever.

I think Trist has a preview scan of Toy Story in 1080p. You’ll need to DM him with a photo of your own copy of the movie. (whatever if it’s VHS, VCD, DVD or Blu-Ray)

I wouldn’t upload it on any other sites like Internet Archive if I were you.*

*anyone on Original Trilogy

A figure drawing book.

I so sick and tired of people blowing off their kids’ behavior just cause “they can’t help it”.

Seriously? You’re making such a bullshit excuse to coddle your kids when they’re acting cranky in the face of cuteness. When some stranger or a grandparent calls them out for their nonsense, that’s when you fucked up as a parent.

I prefer the 1985 Disney logo and its Pixar variant over the CGI ones just cause the music is annoying and it didn’t help that it replaced the older logos on their Disney Renaissance and the early Pixar movies.

I had the same views with KaiserBeamz on that logo.
https://xcancel.com/KaiserBeamz/status/1423314585390616579#m

TristAndShout64 said:

Hey y’all– the final encode is FINALLY finished and I’m currently in the process of slowly but surely getting it out to people. Thank you for bearing with me!

My apologies, I have indeed been quite busy with my personal life being a bit of a mess at the moment. I will be messaging people individually and getting the necessary details to share the scan with them– just hang in there, we are so close!

~Trist

It’s ok. No rush, take your time.

Hey, how is the progress on that scan coming along?

JadedSkywalker said:

Star Trek II the Wrath of Khan Anamorphic first issue DVD. Super grainy picture and its DVD so its highly compressed in picture and audio. The print negative damage and color shift is obvious. I did watch it because unlike the 4K it has the original mix even if it’s in lossy 2.0 Dolby surround format. And i did not want to hook up my old tv and get my laserdisc player working and search for the Star Trek 1-5 box set to find my letterbox copy of ST II.

What about ripping the audio and syncing it to the 4K master? You can extract the video and audio from the DVD to use as syncing reference to the 4K Blu-Ray.

skytrapal said:

Sambarker04 said:

HAttackontheBun said:

Sambarker04 said:

HAttackontheBun said:

TristAndShout64 said:

HAttackontheBun said:

TristAndShout64 said:

HAttackontheBun said:

I was wondering, what condition is this print in?

It was shockingly clean! The condition is extremely nice overall, with just one splice on the third reel. I think people will be really happy with how the final scan turns out. 😃

How so? I mean the color’s a bit faded.

It’s actually a lot less faded than the pictures made it out to be! Check the image links I replied to Peter with on the last page, you’ll see they’re pretty close to how the colors presumably should look. There’s a tiny bit of fade, but it’ll be pretty easy to color-correct.

That reminds me, Considering that there is one splice in one of the reels, I have a Blu-Ray copy of this movie and I can try to match the visuals to the film print to fill that in.

Or…you can use the NTSC LaserDiscs of the film to recreate the official aesthetic of 35mm print that Disney used in their pre-2000 masters. Especially since according to the Deluxe CAV Edition LD, many of the raw digital frames done after rendering were instantly transferred over to positive 35mm, since digitally sourced films weren’t a thing back in 1995.

I don’t have a laserdisc player.

Maybe anyone who has a laserdisc player, any NTSC LD copy of the film, and a capture card, alongside perfect NTSC calibration from the software could help.

I got the Japanese Deluxe CAV and the Standard NTSC Laserdisc. I still need to rip the laserdisc for my server at some point.

If you rip it, will this be IVTC’d?

Sambarker04 said:

HAttackontheBun said:

TristAndShout64 said:

HAttackontheBun said:

TristAndShout64 said:

HAttackontheBun said:

I was wondering, what condition is this print in?

It was shockingly clean! The condition is extremely nice overall, with just one splice on the third reel. I think people will be really happy with how the final scan turns out. 😃

How so? I mean the color’s a bit faded.

It’s actually a lot less faded than the pictures made it out to be! Check the image links I replied to Peter with on the last page, you’ll see they’re pretty close to how the colors presumably should look. There’s a tiny bit of fade, but it’ll be pretty easy to color-correct.

That reminds me, Considering that there is one splice in one of the reels, I have a Blu-Ray copy of this movie and I can try to match the visuals to the film print to fill that in.

Or…you can use the NTSC LaserDiscs of the film to recreate the official aesthetic of 35mm print that Disney used in their pre-2000 masters. Especially since according to the Deluxe CAV Edition LD, many of the raw digital frames done after rendering were instantly transferred over to positive 35mm, since digitally sourced films weren’t a thing back in 1995.

I don’t have a laserdisc player.

Will the analog track be in Dolby SR, as in decoded in that format?

TristAndShout64 said:

HAttackontheBun said:

TristAndShout64 said:

HAttackontheBun said:

I was wondering, what condition is this print in?

It was shockingly clean! The condition is extremely nice overall, with just one splice on the third reel. I think people will be really happy with how the final scan turns out. 😃

How so? I mean the color’s a bit faded.

It’s actually a lot less faded than the pictures made it out to be! Check the image links I replied to Peter with on the last page, you’ll see they’re pretty close to how the colors presumably should look. There’s a tiny bit of fade, but it’ll be pretty easy to color-correct.

That reminds me, Considering that there is one splice in one of the reels, I have a Blu-Ray copy of this movie and I can try to match the visuals to the film print to fill that in.

TristAndShout64 said:

HAttackontheBun said:

I was wondering, what condition is this print in?

It was shockingly clean! The condition is extremely nice overall, with just one splice on the third reel. I think people will be really happy with how the final scan turns out. 😃

How so? I mean the color’s a bit faded.

I was wondering, what condition is this print in?

Sambarker04 said:

Also, considering that this is a print from Australia, I wonder if it contains a Dolby Digital track on the print, as well as maybe the Roger Rabbit short “Rollercoaster Rabbit”, as with the case on international theatrical releases of the film, including the UK.

Looking at the photos from the Ebay listing, the print contains a Dolby Digital track. I don’t know if Rollercoaster Rabbit’s attached to it or not.

Is there going to be an open matte version of this scan?

TristAndShout64 said:

Great news everyone– the print has finally been shipped and is on its way to the US for scanning! Stay tuned for further updates! This is not a drill!!!

What about Ultrasonic cleaning?

Balto: la Cacca di Aleu: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kH0mi-5HRYs

Why

I find the animation in Balto to be off-putting than the direct to video sequels.