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Thank you for the link.

I only had time to listen to the first 5-6 minutes but your editing is seamless. Good job on that. I had a good smile at the Luke/Lando pairing mention because it is something in canon in that pre sequel Era books too.

The intro place that story post Thrawn Era. I think it works well for now, maybe you will need to do more edits in the future after all the Mando era showns/movies are over.

Also, this is clearly a way to make that story work with the on screen canon content, not with the rest. And it is perfectly fine like that, just wanted to mention for anyone wanting to know.

szopman said:

Hello there!

Would anybody be interested in listening to the workprint of the first chapter?

How long is it ?

I don’t have that much time until the new year but after I could help if you still need.

That is an interesting project, I will certainly give it a listen when it is ready.

With what happened in the Clone Wars, mostly toward the end it is a fine starting and end point IMO. But anyway the scene is not essential, I just always wanted to see it edited down to see if it would work.

I mean the temple scene with Yoda and Obi Wan has Mace say remember, he is supposed to bring the Force back into Balance, so that part is still here in the actual movie.
Fair point about the VFX.

I wonder if the Mace platform scene could be edited to remove the duplicate parts. I think the scene could help with pacing when integrating more Padme/Anakin content. I liked that Mace is more positive about Anakin future in it and it offers a nice contrast with the way he feels in ROTS.

I am very interested in this !!! Thanks for doing it.

Any interest in adding Han putting the dice in the falcon in TFA ? I know the scene is not perfect on the vfx side but I like the connection with TLJ it offers.

tangelo1023 said:

As a last reminder, make sure to support authors by purchasing the original works. This edit now includes the following original books.

Darth Plagueis by James Luceno
Cloak of Deception by James Luceno
Shadow Hunter by Michael Reeves
The Phantom Menace by Terry Brooks

Quick question, any plan to include the short stories Darth Maul: Saboteur ( it is a prequel to shadow hunter but ties in with cloak of deception) and End Game ( it is point of vue elements from Maul when he was sent to Naboo and ties in with the plagueis novel) both from James Luceno ?

That is awesome. I am looking forward to diving back into your edit. I will try to give feedback this time.

Reading this thread makes we wish someone would do a TFA Extended Edition someday, with NeverarGreat work around the Kilo in the Falcon and the Starkiller Base shield going down integrated.

Hi, I am also interested in a link to watch your edit. Thanks !

I muxed the two together, worked like a charm. I did not feel any audio desync. Thanks again.

Hal 9000 said:

Member LardBladder pointed something out to me over PM that I wasn’t aware of. In ANH, when the fighters engage their S-foils into attack position, the SE and onward has a sound not present in the older mixes. However, it actually is present in the mono mix! Given this, I have reinstated it and reexported the ANH portion of this project. (I had originally mistook it for a SE change corresponding to the new visuals, but it was there in the mono mix with the original visual FX.)

I also fixed that loud pop when we meet Ben Kenobi.

It’s on the Google Drive, same as ever. (Only ANH is affected.) Thanks as usual to ChainsawAsh for the DTS encode.

First, thanks for doing this.

I wanted to use this audio with D+77 but this project is not GOUT sync anymore, it has 1 additional frame. Will it be very noticeable do you think ?

This looks very promising, i will be interested in a link when your v3 is finished ( semi authentic.)

The 3 things i don’t like with the 2020 version are the digital rock, the extra greedo line and the color grade so your project is exactly what i was looking for without knowing it could be a thing.

Octorox said:

I made a 1080p upscale in Topaz from the PAL video source. It’s nothing fancy, and there are definitely some upscaling artifacts, but it’s available by PM if anyone wants to check it out.

I would like to thank Octorox for this upscale, it looks great. Nice to have this option until Adywan’s new version is ready.

Octorox said:

I made a 1080p upscale in Topaz from the PAL video source. It’s nothing fancy, and there are definitely some upscaling artifacts, but it’s available by PM if anyone wants to check it out.

Thanks for doing this ! Pmed

sade1212 said:

“Vice Admiral Holdo is mobilising the fleet!”

I’ll get my coat.

Good idea but Leia would not react like that if Holdo was the one in charge for this. She is one of her trusted allies and she doesn’t have many at that moment of the story.

Bridger12 said:

DarthTzetzo said:

I’m wondering if there is a version of the Emperor scene with Adywan’s revisited image of the hologram and 2011 blu-ray dialogue?

I don’t think so.

You know, I don’t think it’s even necessary to have that extended bit of dialogue anymore, and I don’t know why it was kept in versions that came out after Revenge of the Sith. I am not sure what the intentions were to have Vader ask “How is that possible?”. In a 2015 canon comic that takes place between Episodes IV and V, Vader asks Boba to investigate more about the pilot who destroyed the Death Star. Boba comes back with the information that his name is “Skywalker.” Vader naturally got VERY angry after hearing it, because Palpatine lied to him about him killing Padmé in his anger on Mustafar, while she was still pregnant, and he had been going on for 20 years with that thought in mind.

I think it is a nice touch, Vador kinda trying to see what the Emperor knows on the subject with that question and he certainly never reported that he knows about Luke to Sidious so it is also a way to cover that he already has tried to get a hold of him.

EddieDean said:

Oof, just spotted something else to amend what I’d just said-

Queen Amidala (the figurehead) is the macguffin, Padmé (revealed in the third act as the true Queen) is a character with real agency. This way you don’t reveal that Padmé is Queen until the right moment.

Perhaps-

The GALACTIC REPUBLIC is failing. As
its Senate becomes more complacent,
QUEEN AMIDALA, elected ruler of the
Naboo system, stands as a vocal champion
against corruption.

With the Republic’s ability to protect
its worlds diminished, the greedy TRADE
FEDERATION have invaded her home planet,
in an attempt to force her compliance.

The Jedi Order, mystical wielders of
THE FORCE and defenders of the Republic,
have dispatched Jedi Knight QUI-GON JINN
and his apprentice to bring the Queen to
safety on the capital planet of Coruscant.

The key factions are the Galactic Republic (complacent, corrupt, unable to act), the Trade Federation (greedy, opportunistic), and the Jedi Order (protectors, mystical, act semi-independently of the Senate). The key characters are Queen Amidala (champion of democracy) and Qui-Gon (a Jedi Knight). The plot is escape from invasion.

Compare to the original crawl: The key factions are the Galactic Republic (in turmoil, bureaucratic), and the Trade Federation (objecting, greedy), and Jedi Knights (protectors, mediators, act on behalf of the Supreme Chancellor). The characters are the Supreme Chancellor (leader) and two Jedi Knights. The plot is taxation leading to blockade leading to negotiation.

With my suggestion you could perhaps do more to explain how getting the Queen to Coruscant might actually help (beyond just escape), but I think early dialogue captures some of that. It doesn’t explain what the force actually IS, nor does it hint at the dark power behind these events.

Amidala is only queen of Naboo, not of the system. The senator is for the whole system but it is a different role.

EddieDean said:

Thanks for this, I needed both points clarified too. Is it actually made explicit in the movie that Palpatine is from Naboo? It’s implied in the dialogue, but I don’t think it’s spelt out. Shame that the Amidala persona thing isn’t in the movie though.

He is the senator from the Chommel Sector, witch include Naboo and a number of other planets. He is from a noble family of Naboo. It is not explicit in the movie although his wardrobe make it pretty clear for the second point.

CaptainFaraday said:

I personally think leaving this being ambiguous in the movie works in its favor, but it’s cool to know there is actually a point where they switch and I’m going to see if I can spot it next time I watch it.

That is one of the strongest aspect of the movie. Still it is not hard to call when you have watch the movie a lot. Sabe as the queen has two outfits. The other ones are Padmé.

CaptainFaraday said:

Two things I’d never realised until reading Eddie’s plot summary:

• Why does Sidious want to invade Naboo? Why the fixation on recapturing Padme?
• When exactly do Padme and the decoy switch places? She introduces herself to everyone as “Padme” when she’s pretending to be a handmaiden; do people not know that’s Queen Amidala’s first name?

1- Because the original plan was to get her to sign the treaty ( Palp thought she was young so easy to scare) to legitimize the occupation and create sympathy for him in the Senate so he could use it to win the next election ( Valorum had less than a year left on his mandate.) He never expected that Amidala would find her way to Coruscant. He just adapted after that and he got what he wanted even quicker. The old EU cover that story pretty well ( Cloak of Deception )

2- Amidala is a persona. Every queen of Naboo get one. Nobody knows Padme Naberrie is the queen of Naboo apart from a few selected people. Padme is just one of the handmaiden for the casual personnel. Canon book Queen’s Peril cover that in details. The first switch with Sabe in TPM as the decoy is just before they get captured (black dress.)

Darth Sadifous said:

I personally would like to see the inclusion or even mention of Dooku in The Phantom Menance to better connect Episode I and Episode II. I believe this would really help sell his history with Qui Gon Jinn and make a larger impact on Attack of the Clones when we see he has left the Jedi Order and is working in opposition of the Republic.

Perhaps digitally add him to the council scenes (does not need to talk) or even have him look on as an attendant at Qui Gon’s funeral. It latter could also be a subtle hint at him be Maul’s successor as apprentice to Palpatine and the camera could now linger on both Dooku and Palpatine during Yoda and Mace Windu’s discussion at the end about who was killed, master or apprentice.

I don’t mind the idea but that would clash with canon, Dooku left the order in 42BBY.

Thanks for this, and i will give your Solo edit a look for sure. Do you have any interest in giving the ROTS novelization a canon clean up ?
(pmed you for the updated link )

First thanks for sharing your work. I looked up the Dooku mentions, i like what you have done.

A quick feedback, i think in Canon, the unifying force has been renamed cosmic force. It is something else you could change in the future. ( only 3 references in this book)

Octorox said:

So I know I just released this edit, but I’m already thinking about the possibility of more changes. Quick question: Does anyone feel the second seeds of rebellion scene really adds anything? It’s really unclear whether the Jedi she’s talking about is Anakin or Obi-Wan, and I think the first and third scene would work just fine without the middle one. I’m just trying to find moments where I can speed up the flow of the edit. Any feedback?

I think that is the point we don’t know who she is talking about at that moment, i think it gives a little more credibility to Anakin line you are with him before he choke her out on Mustafar. Yes he is completely gone at that moment, but she was talking to Obi Wan behind his back still. ( and multiple times in the script, the Obi Wan came by this morning that anakin sense in the Force was actually filmed but never release as a deleted scene.)