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#535815
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Star Wars Blu Ray Impressions
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marioxb said:


Number one, how are people getting this before the 16th?

The release date here in the UK was September 12th (Monday), so it's been on shop shelves since then.

By the way, like with all boxsets the UK doesn't get the same kind of packaging as the US version. We get 9 thin blue trays stacked on top of each other and held together with a thin strip of glued plastic. I suppose that's better than a huge gatefold design, which is what we usually get as an alternative to US packaging.

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#535661
Topic
Star Wars Blu Ray Impressions
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I have only watched The Phantom Menace so far (Yes I know, god I hate myself for starting with episode 1 first, but what can I say, I'm a bit weary of ANH lately and I felt like watching TPM to see how it holds up).

Picture quality on TPM is very inconsistent. Some shots are brilliantly sharp and high-resolution, some other shots are awful, and there's generally too much DNR making faces look waxy.

You can tell the two scenes that George shot with a prototype digital camera because there's an obvious drop in picture quality. It's the scenes where Qui-Gonn is taking a blood sample from Anakin, and when he's telling Anakin about midichlorians, right? Those bits look lower-resolution anyway. Other low-res shots include the extra podrace elements that George added from the deleted scenes back into the DVD. I honestly think some of those shots are standard-def blowups.

So overall, TPM is very patchy and I'd have to give it a low score for picture quality.

CG is also quite obviously poor. Closeups of Jar Jar and any other CG creature don't stand up well at all. But then you've got new Yoda who looks like 2005 quality!

The surprising thing is that I actually kind of enjoyed the film. Sorry. I've always had a strange fondness for TPM -- as long as you mentally edit out Jar Jar and the "Yippee"s while you watch -- and watching it on blu-ray was quite enjoyable.

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#531548
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What HASN’T changed on the 2011 OT SE Blu-ray release – the uncorrected mistakes...
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Hi,

I wanted to put aside my annoyance at what George has changed - and spoiled - since 1997, and instead think about what he HASN’T bothered to change. I could almost cope with the vandalism if it also came with the benefit of genuine complete bugfixes. I could almost admire Lucasfilm if only I could BELIEVE them when they say they are “improving” the films.

Now the 2011 Blu-rays bring more “artistic” changes, but I still noticed many gaffes and mistakes that George hasn’t bothered to touch, some all the way from 1977. I have to wonder why George cares about fixing some things but not others? Why is it essential that Artoo is better hidden from the sandpeople, but NOT essential that the Death Star plans are correct?

This article presents some of the most obvious errors that would be fixed in a “perfect” version of Star Wars, but have inexplicably been ignored in the Blu-ray. People who have seen ANH a hundred times might get a chuckle out of some things that they’ve always noticed! I’m only dealing with the first film here. My reference is the 720p MKV Blu-ray rip.

It should be said that Adywan has performed nearly all these fixes in his “Revisited” project. The best thing about Adywan’s project is that it proves Lucasfilm have no excuse to ignore these things. If he can do it at home with consumer equipment, what’s Lucasfilm’s excuse?

You’ll notice each of these entries has an “Ignored chances to fix” number. Although almost every home video version of Star Wars has included some subtle changes, I’m counting 1997, 2004 and 2011 as the three significant times Lucasfilm have taken the opportunity to make technical changes to the film.

Here we go.
 

DARK LASERS
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2290/starwarsep4unfixed00glo.jpg
The digital colour timing in 2004 created lots of problems, including the darkening of some lightsabers and laser fire. Lucasfilm selectively fixed a few of the most complained-about shots in 2011 – proof that they accept some errors were made. But they didn’t fix the iconic opening shot of the Tantive IV exchanging fire with the Star Destroyer.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 2004
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 1
 

LOBSTER MEN
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1885/starwarsep4unfixed01lob.jpg
Another example of the errors caused by boosting saturation so much in 2004. It’s a tiny fast background example, but representative of Lucasfilm’s failure to fix the oddities of the 2004 colour timing.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 2004
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 1
 

MISSING MOISTURE VAPORATORS
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8153/starwarsep4unfixed02mis.jpg
The 1997 Special Edition expanded the shot of the sandcrawler at the Lars homestead and added more moisture vaporators in the background. But when Luke walks to the sandcrawler it’s a pre-1997 shot without the added vaporators.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1997
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 2
 

BAD MOTIVATOR
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4550/starwarsep4unfixed03red.jpg
The red R2 unit blows its motivator and Threepio suggests Artoo as a replacement. But the shot of Artoo is taken from earlier when the red R2 unit was still next to him.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 3
 

LUKE’S GHOST
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5647/starwarsep4unfixed04luk.jpg
This is an odd little thing that you might never have noticed. In the establishing shot of the Lars homestead courtyard on the morning that Luke has gone to chase after Artoo, you can see a semi-transparent still image of Luke in one of the doorways. Also, the Treadwelll droid jumps to the other side of the courtyard in the next shot when Uncle Owen enters.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: ?
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: at least 2
 

ANNOYING JUMP
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/696/starwarsep4unfixed05ree.jpg
This has always annoyed me. Was it a reel change? The music jumps a little between these two shots. It could be easily smoothed over, but Lucasfilm always leaves it alone.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 3
 

CLOAK
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1131/starwarsep4unfixed06ben.jpg
One of the most well-known errors. The cloak hanging on the wall disappears for the shots of Luke handling the lightsaber. Adywan fixed this quite successfully, so why can’t Lucasfilm?
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 3
 

BLOODY HELL
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2708/starwarsep4unfixed07pon.jpg
Let’s skip the debate of whether it’s supposed to be Ponda Baba’s arm (hairy) or Dr. Evazan’s (human) – Dr. Evazan screams in pain, but it’s Ponda’s arm. Anyway, let’s just concentrate on why it’s not cauterized and there’s blood everywhere.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 3
 

BAT BOY CAN’T HANDLE HIS BOOZE
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/7736/starwarsep4unfixed08lit.jpg
This is very nitpicky, but once you notice it you’ll always notice it. The little bat alien (named Kabe apparently) can’t bring his drink up to his mouth and seems to drink with his chin. Adywan fixed this.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 3
 

OF ALL THE PROBLEMS WITH THIS SCENE
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2128/starwarsep4unfixed09gre.jpg
It’s nitpicky to even mention this, but there’s still a frame of a bad Greedo model before he gets shot. To be an absolute perfectionist, you’d want to replace this frame with an earlier shot of Greedo, like Adywan did.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 3
 

HALF A PIECE OF JUNK
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/539/starwarsep4unfixed11fal.jpg
Only half of the full-size Falcon was built into the hangar bay set, and unfortunately it fails to convince you that the other half exists. It looks like half a ship against a wall. The dish is the most notable thing missing. Adywan shows how easy it would be to digitally extend this shot.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 3
 

WINDOW STRUT
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/1710/starwarsep4unfixed12win.jpg
The Millennium Falcon model has a strut in the center of the cockpit window that wasn’t matched on the cockpit set. This was fixed for Empire and Jedi. I’m in two minds about seeing this fixed… it would somewhat spoil the streaking starfield effect, and let’s face it, who cares about such a petty thing?
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 3
 

OH, IT’S THIS SABER AGAIN
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2206/starwarsep4unfixed13sab.jpg
Turned green in 2004. Corrected in 2011, that’s good. But this is a lightsaber shot that needs completely remaking anyway due to the way it wobbles. There was no pole in the hilt for this shot – because Luke switches it off without a jump cut – so it was hand-drawn without a reference. The beam is also too thin comared to other shots in the scene.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977?
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: Oh boy
 

REMOTE LASER
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9013/starwarsep4unfixed14rem.jpg
Just a small thing that the 2004 version broke and they didn’t correct for Blu-ray. The laser is supposed to be yellow.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 2004
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 1
 

HAND GESTURES
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2682/starwarsep4unfixed15vad.jpg
Vader stops talking but continues to gesticulate.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 3
 

CONTINUITY
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/333/starwarsep4unfixed16con.jpg
An Imperial officer in a light-toned tunic walks past the black droid. An officer in a dark tunic is walking past in the following shot. Editing makes it clear they are supposed to be the same. It’s very petty to notice, but it’s one of those things.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 3
 

OH, IT’S THIS SABER AGAIN episode II
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/606/starwarsep4unfixed17ben.jpg
Ben’s lightsaber failed to be coloured when the prop failed to hit the light at certain moments in this shot. In 2004 they farmed out some lightsaber touchup shots to VFX companies, and some talentless work-experience lad did this (this is what I must presume).
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: even a “chance” to fix is not always successful in George’s company.
 

IT’S THE GIRTH THAT COUNTS
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8524/starwarsep4unfixed18thi.jpg
This entire film is plagued by lightsabers that have no consistency with the rest of the saga (or even within this single episode), and this shot is just one example. The blades are way too thin, aren’t they? I think these sabers were redrawn in 2004, probably by an outside VFX company. This is my general plea for George to start from scratch and make EVERY lightsaber shot in ANH match the rest of the saga.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: I don’t know what to put in this category any more.
 

NO HYPERSPACE
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5356/starwarsep4unfixed19noh.jpg
It has been established that hyperspace is a blue energy tunnel. You even see the effect in-cockpit for a moment in ROTJ, proving that this is what you are supposed to see through the windows. But here, there’s a whole scene while they travel in hyperspace and you see regular black space. I can understand why it would affect the scene too drastically to add blue hyperspace… in fact I wouldn’t like to see the change. But it’s an inconsistency.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 3
 

WRONG DEATH STAR PLANS
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5219/starwarsep4unfixed20dea.jpg
Okay, this is my biggest complaint. Please permit me some nerd rage now. I went to the cinema in 1997 fully expecting them to fix this mistake and I was disappointed; I bought the DVDs in 2004 fully expecting a change and I was disappointed; now I see the Blu-ray I wonder what on earth Lucasfilm are playing at.

I think this is the single biggest error in the film. The Death Star plans are WRONG! The plans show the firing plate in the equator. This is an immediate visual problem because it cuts straight to a shot of the real Death Star. It’s also a continuity problem with the rest of the saga because we saw the Geonosian Death Star plans in AOTC (around 20 years earlier in the story) and the firing plate was in the top hemisphere.
 

But the biggest impact is on the story: the Rebels have gambled their fate on finding an incredibly specific vulnerability in the Death Star plans, yet the plans are wildly inaccurate. How can you trust that torpedoes down the exhaust port will accomplish anything, if the internal structure of the Death Star may be comptely different? Wedge shouldn’t have said, “Look at the size of that thing!” He should have said, “Let’s abort, our plans were totally wrong!” And what does it say about the Empire? They must have leaked incorrect plans to the Rebels. Not just old plans – because the equator-firing-plate was never in the plans – but deliberately incorrect plans to wrongfoot the Rebels. In which case, why was Vader so vehemently trying to get the plans back?
 

Okay, last paragraph of nerd rage. What really kills me is how easy and cheap it would be to fix this error. Any 12-year-old could do it with off-the-shelf software. How can George approve so many changes time after time, and never think the Death Star plans are wrong?
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 3
 

IT’S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/8373/starwarsep4unfixed21cou.jpg
Let’s have a simple one. This graphic has always annoyed me because the countdown is counting in seconds, whereas the story and dialogue cues are counting in minutes. It’s also a pretty ugly old graphic anyway.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 3
 

X-WING MOTION
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2743/starwarsep4unfixed22xwi.jpg
The picture doesn’t explain, and you might not agree with me anyway. I’ve never liked this shot of Luke’s (or is it Biggs’?) X-wing in motion because it appears to be moving so fast to the right that it should crash into the trench wall. Hopefully you know the moment I’m talking about.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 3
 

ARTOO STILL BLACK?
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/4518/starwarsep4unfixed23bla.jpg
As I was taking these shots I realised Artoo’s blue panels are still black in a few shots. Come on, STILL? I think most of the fixing was done in 1997, but there’s always a few shots they missed.
IN NEED OF FIXING SINCE: 1977
IGNORED CHANCES TO FIX: 3
 

COME ON GEORGE, GIVE HIM A MEDAL
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1789/starwarsep4unfixed24che.jpg
😃
 

There are more, of course. It depends on how many hundred times you saw the film in your youth and how many little bits you personally always notice. If you can think of more, please share them.

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#531370
Topic
Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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rpvee said:

lol, Lucas fans are clutching at straws.

http://blogs.starwars.com/teekay-421/106

I don't think that blog post is straw-clutching, because I think they've presumed George's intentions correctly. After all, George must have had intentions, no matter how horrible and ridiculous. Is it silly to guess at them?

Neither does it sound like an apologist argument. That would mean finding some crazy way to say the new "Noooo"s are an improvement. This blog post doesn't seem to do that.

 

I think it's clear that George wanted this moment to "rhyme" with Vader yelling "Nooooooooooo!" at the end of ROTS. In theory it's an artistically interesting choice. It's just a shame that George doesn't realise the "Noooooooo!" moment from ROTS is one of the stupidest, most laughable, cheesiest things in the entire saga. George also doesn't seem to care that Vader's silence in this scene was always a point of strength and good drama, which can only be spoiled by voicing his feelings.

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#71686
Topic
<strong>The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
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I got a copy of this set last week. I'm quite impressed. I was quite surprised that the discs work on my Playstation2! Some criticism: Even on my very small 4:3 TV the picture quality has a slight jagged look of horizontal aliasing, and the frame rate doesn't seem very smooth. But I attribute that to the fact that my PAL TV and Playstation2 are broadcasting the picture in NTSC. There is probably a loss of quality when my PAL TV snaps into its secondary NTSC mode that it wasn't really designed for. But apart from that, I find the picture to be a little better than VHS, which is all I need.

Oh, one more tiny criticism. The most annoying thing about the picture is that bright red things are pixellated. It's weird how compression algorythms always make red stuff very pixellated, like in jpg photos. I hope that gets fixed for TR47's 2.0 versions.

I have one question about the lifespan of burned DVD discs. How long do they last? Because I've heard that CD-Rs only have a lifespan of approximately 3-6 years before the ink starts to run, and I assume DVD-R is the same? Still, I shouldn't worry -- in the years it will take to degrade, I'll finally get a better computer and my own DVD burner, and just re-tranfer them.
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#69292
Topic
Aliens DVD
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Alien, Alien3 and Alien Resurrection are released in this set with alternate cuts that haven't been on DVD before. The alternate cuts for all of them are very new.

Aliens, however, had its alternate cut made back in the early 90s. That's when its "Special Edition" came out on video. It's 20 minutes longer than the plain old version. Since then, the Special Edition kinda became standard. The previous DVD version of Aliens was the Special Edition.

So what you have on DVD now is both the original theatrical version (that you may not have seen), and the Special Edition (that you're used to) via seamless branching. Try choosing the original cut when the disc prompts you, and see if you can spot the 20 minutes of scenes that aren't in it.

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#69204
Topic
THX-1138 on DVD, please...
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I've bought and watched the new DVD. It was my first time watching the film, so I can only imagine what it was like originally. I have both positive and negative feelings towards the CG additions -- they clearly make the scenes look better, but they clearly stand out as new CG scenes too. Most noticable new shots:

- Big wide establishing shots that are digital mattes. Look good, but CG.
- The radioactive rod thing THX is installing into a droid is glowy and melts through the droid when dropped... looks cool.
- A totally CG sequence of THX driving the car through traffic, before entering the tunnel again.
- The car crashes through new barriers and scaffolding.
- The "shell dwellers" were all originally hairy midget guys. Now the ones that attack THX are totally CG monkey creatures. Looks very CG... but which is lamer-looking, CG creatures or hairy midgets?

Those are the more obvious things.

Now my thoughts on the film itself: weeeeeeird. I didn't like it the first time. It was uncomfortable and strange. But after it finished and I thought about it more, I appreciated all the things it tried to do. I love the confession booths where the recorded voice clearly isn't listening because it's automated, and it says, "Buy. Buy more. Buy more now." I love the comment on consumerism -- everyone buys useless coloured objects for no reason and throws them away straight afterwards -- they were just told to buy them.

The most interesting thing about the DVD - and the reason you need to see it - is because it will give you great insight about George Lucas. The hour-long documentary on American Zoetrope is wonderful. Lucas isn't just a guy who made Star Wars... he says his heart is in this kind of radical experimental filmmaking. He is really lively in the documentary, and enthusiastic in his commentary... far more so than for Star Wars. Towards the end of the commentary he says (paraphrasing): "I wanted to make a comedy after this, so I made American Graffiti. Then I wanted to try a fun kid's film, and, uh, I kind of got stuck doing that for a long time. But after I'm finally done with Star Wars, I hope to get back to where my heart really lies, and do experimental films like this again."
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#69181
Topic
Aliens DVD
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Are you asking for picture comparisons of Alien or Aliens? Apologies of the confusion, it's just that Alien is the one that can be viewed as a new "Director's Cut" through seamless branching, and Aliens is the one that can be viewed as a "Special Edition" through seamless branching (it was always the Special Edition version on DVD before).

I have DVDs of both the Quadrilogy versions and older versions, so I could make screens for you. I've taken a look now, and I can tell you that the transfer for Alien is quite a bit sharper and has higher contrast than its previous version, but the transfer for Aliens is virtually identical to its previous version.


oojason: There is one negative difference between R1 and R2 of the Quadrilogy. The R1 commentary tracks run through both versions of each film, which gives more/alternate commentary for new seamlessly branched new scenes. The R2 only has commentary for the Theatrical Cuts of each film. So there's a bit less commentary.
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#69068
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&quot;They belong to Lucas and are his to change&quot;
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Well, hmm.

On the one hand, they do belong to Lucas and are his to change. That can't be disputed -- it's a business fact.

Where I disagree with other fans is on the quality and importance of George's "vision". Quite simply, I believe that a talented 32-year-old maverick independent filmmaker called Geoge Lucas wrote and directed Star Wars, and his vision was great. But now a middle-aged, out of touch, eccentric billionaire businessman called George Lucas is using his vision to change the films, and to make a prequel trilogy.

The flaws inherent in the Special Editions and the Prequel Trilogy prove that this man's "vision" isn't a vision I respect very much any more. It isn't a trust-worthy guiding vision. It's a pretty lame vision, and not one I appreciate being used to modify films from a different era.

It frustrates me to see Star Wars fans revering him as the God of all things. It frustrates me that they convince themselves to love very flawed material just because it's what George made. The absolute silliest example is: "...But The Phantom Menace is supposed to be boring! That was George's vision! Therefore it's great that it's boring." Oh how I laugh. No film is ever designed to be boring... except some experimental films by Warhol.

Currently, when a Star Wars fan dares to say they dislike a certain scene, they are slapped down by everyone else on the message board and told that they are to blame for not accepting George's vision, and they'd love the scene in question if they respected George's vision like they're supposed to. But how much flawed crap will George put on the screen before his worshippers finally say, "Actually, you know what? I've just realised that if I don't think it's very good, maybe it's George's fault rather than mine..."

It really is like a religion. Seriously. A strict George worshipper arguing with someone who doesn't respect George's vision is just like a strict religious person arguing with an atheist. The religious person has built all kind of mental defenses to prevent them from contemplating the idea that God doesn't exist, and can't imagine living in a world without God. A George worshipper has built similar defenses to consider George's vision all-important, and can't imagine being a Star Wars fan if you don't agree with the vision.
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#67979
Topic
Idea: About De-SEizing the DVDs... We need to Vote on Changes!
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Creating a hybrid of the "Original Version" and "The SE Changes You Liked" doesn't seem to suit the philosophy of this group. There is a need to preserve the original pre-1997 versions, and that means accepting that the original version sometimes doesn't look as good as the SEs. It's not supposed to. The old effects, the matte lines, the uncoloured lightsabers, etc, are to be celebrated as what was originally filmed.

Choosing your own favourite changes to keep in the films would just make it an unofficial mixture, worse than either Originals or SEs. They wouldn't be the Originals, and they wouldn't be the SEs either. They'd just be a fan mix.

If there is to be a project to make an Original version using as much DVD footage as possible, and filling in all changed scenes with LD footage, then I would prefer it to be totally accurate to the Originals.
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#67658
Topic
Things you LIKED about the Special Editions?
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There are a few things that I like about the SEs, but even the things I like appear misplaced in the film. It's a case of: "X looks good, but doesn't match the rest of the film."

I like:

New sandcrawler shots
Cleaned up landspeeder shots
Mos Eisley establishing pullback (but no other shots)
Han running into landing bay full of stormtroopers.
Yavin base temple exterior
Ships landing/leaving Yavin
New Ewok song (I loathed the yub nub crap).


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#66564
Topic
The DVD's........Man!!!
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On R2 discs subtitles are always player-generated, whereas they are often burnt in with R1 DVDs. So the alien languages are subtitled in a default subtitle stream that is automatically active.

However, when I watched the films yesterday this subtitle stream was glitchy... in a few scenes the subs didn't appear, and I had to go to the language menu and select "no subs", which reset the subs back to what it should be. Then they showed up. I don't know if it's a disc authoring problem or what; but yeah, I can understand if people don't see the alien language subs sometimes.
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#66551
Topic
For fun...What would be in your Star Wars DVD package?
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Hi. My answer is pretty much like most people's:


Disc 1: Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope Ultimate Edition.
(George's complete computer-generated "vision", but also with every error fixed.)
- Commentary track by George Lucas, Gary Kurtz, tech guys, etc.
- Commentary track by cast (as many as possible).
- Isolated musical score track.

Disc 2: Star Wars (1977)
(The very original. I have a philosophy that you may as well keep the bad matte-lines and white lightsabers, and accept the trade-off between error-full originals and error-corrected new versions. But picture and sound should be optimised as much as possible to pass DVD standards.)

Disc 3: Star Wars supplementary material
- Deleted scenes, with explanations (but no CG "completion").
- Very comprehensive documentary, such as the first 90 mins of Empire Of Dreams, but expanded to include 100 other stories. Perhaps running to 3 hours. This would cover everything.
- Trailers
- Very complete poster, stills and artwork archive.
- Gag reel.
- Holiday Special as easter egg :-)

Disc 4: Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back Ultimate Edition.
(George's complete computer-generated "vision", but also with every error fixed.)
- Commentary track by George Lucas, Gary Kurtz, tech guys, etc.
- Commentary track by cast (as many as possible).
- Isolated musical score track.

Disc 5: The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
(The very original.)

Disc 6: The Empire Strikes Back supplementary material
- Deleted scenes, with explanations (but no CG "completion").
- Very comprehensive documentary, such as the 45 mins covered in Empire Of Dreams, but expanded to include 100 other stories. Perhaps running to 3 hours. This would cover everything.
- Trailers
- Very complete poster, stills and artwork archive.
- Gag reel.

Disc 7: Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi Ultimate Edition.
(George's complete computer-generated "vision", but also with every error fixed.)
- Commentary track by George Lucas, tech guys, etc.
- Commentary track by cast (as many as possible).
- Isolated musical score track.

Disc 8: Return of the Jedi (1983)
(The very original.)

Disc 9: Return of the Jedi supplementary material
- Deleted scenes, with explanations (but no CG "completion").
- Very comprehensive documentary, such as the last half hour of Empire Of Dreams, but expanded to include 100 other stories. Perhaps running to 3 hours. This would cover everything.
- Trailers
- Very complete poster, stills and artwork archive.
- Gag reel.

Disc 10: More supplementary material
Another three hours of stuff that didn't fit into the main documentaries for each film.





Way way waaaay too hopeful, aren't I?