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#223589
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Ages of Luke & Leia
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I don't know. I still don't like it. At the end of the day, it's just a book/movie, and if there's a continuity error, then that's just the way it works out. Sometimes, even the best storyteller will have a later idea that contradicts a previous minor detail. And sometimes it's okay, and the storyteller just needs to let it slide. It's just when it happens all the time (*coughPTcough*) that it becomes obvious that the storyteller may not be the best...

But I disagree with the changing of The Hobbit.
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#223570
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Remember when everyone hated Return of the Jedi?
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Originally posted by: vtpeters
I remember Lucas explaining in some ROTJ Making Of documentary that the Ewoks were at one point in the development of the script supposed to be Wookies. In Episode III we finally get to see an Empire vs. Wookies battle...


Well, no, it was actually Wookies and Clones vs. Separatists. But, yeah, we did see a Wookiee battle... and it was crappy and forgettable.
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#223466
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Remember when everyone hated Return of the Jedi?
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Yeah, I agree. The Ewoks have never bothered me. It's just a fun little underdog battle. Although it might be a funny fan film, did you really expect the Ewoks to show up and start blowing their horns, and then all of a sudden, a bunch of laser blasts emit and knock all of them to hell and back in a matter of seconds. "Okay. Now, back to those prisoners!" Heehee, that would be funny, but it would make the main heroes pretty fubar'd wouldn't it?
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#223409
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The Emperor & line change in ESB SE 1997
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Well, yeah, that's what I love about it. There are a lot of people who complain that all the events in ESB take place over too small an amount of time... far too little for Luke to get any type of training done. But then I remembered that Han and the others had to travel to Bespin without the aid of a hyperdrive, so quite a lot of time had to pass. I love it.
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#223407
Topic
Ages of Luke & Leia
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
EDIT: I just went off on a rant about why the hell does everything have to be rationalised/explained and why can't people just accept that Luke had a touch of Deja-Vu probably due to the fact that he was in the process of fulfilling his destiny.


Yeah, pretty much what I just said exactly. I agree with Scruffy that we're made to rationalize, and it's fun to do so a lot of the time. But it's simply the fact that the prequels make so much nonsensical rationalizing (paradoxical statement, I know... but, damn, it's late, and I can't remember the term for those kinds of statements, and it's pissing me off, but I'm spending too much time not writing about the topic) almost necessary. And it's from the other side. "Revenge of the Sith makes sense because..." "Leia wasn't really talking about her real mother because..." "Leia was talking about her real mother, and it still makes sense because..."

How about, good storytelling in Star Wars has been lost because....

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#223371
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Ages of Luke & Leia
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Originally posted by: ShiftyEyes
Has Luke's memory of Dagobah ever been rationalized/explained by Prequel fans?


Actually, this fits in with the topic really well, because it is the big difference between a real memory and a Force-induced familiar feeling. Let's analyze each character's response.

Luke (about Dagobah): Still, there's something familiar about this place. Like something out of a dream.

Leia (about her mother): Just a little bit. She died when I was very young. Images really. Feelings. She was very beautiful. Kind. But sad.

Luke cannot at all pinpoint what exactly it is that is familiar about Dagobah. He doesn't mention any outstanding physical characteristics. He compares it to being dreamlike. He even wonders at one point if he is going crazy. There's nothing concrete about it at all. The best I can compare it to is the feeling of deja vu. There's no real memory there, but he just has this innate feeling that he's supposed to be there. He might sense Yoda. Maybe he did have a dream about it at some point. But there's nothing to indicate that he'd ever been there before. There's nothing wrong with this logic. I think the people who suggested there be a scene where Ben takes the babies to Dagobah are just crazy.

Leia is much more specific. I mean, she's not extremely specific, but she's comparitively specific. She said she actually remembers her mother a little bit. This is just speculation, but if my mother had died during childbirth, that's how I would explain her death. It just doesn't mesh with "died when I was very young." But back on topic, she's specific about her mother's physical and emotional appearances. It fits very much with the kinds of brief but important memories from young childhood that are kind of blurred over the ages. Just from the dialogue, you can tell it's a very different experience from Luke and Dagobah. There's nothing wrong with this logic. There is no reason to suggest that it's a Force memory. There's no sense in thinking it's her adopted mother. Luke specifically asks for her real mother. Any idiot could figure that out if confronted with that question. And if she was talking about her adopted mother, it totally ruins the emotional context of the scene and makes it completely useless. Yet so many fans are willing to accept it that way, despite any evidence or payoff, just so it will mesh with the horribly contradictory plot point released 22 years later.
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#223280
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things we Love
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I used to love reading all those teenage girl magazines like Seventeen and YM because they were just so funny! I would just skip right to the letters sections and read all the stories of horribly dumb and embarrassing things that those girls would do. It was a hoot! I think my girlfriend must have stopped getting them since I never see any anymore. Hmm. I should ask about that.
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#223278
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Rankings
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Yup, those are the wounds. I'll pass on the band-aid though because I'm a double hard bastard and I'll just wait till the bleeding stops by itself.


When you've been bleeding for four weeks, I think it's about time you... passed out. But you should also have somebody take you to a hospital.
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#223272
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Help me get BANNED on SW.COM!!!
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I admit that I got caught up in the mob mentality of this, too. Well, obviously I did because I posted here, and, while I would never do it myself, I felt sympathetic to and excited by Cable's cause. While part of me still feels like it would be an exciting release and giving the other side "what they deserve," my more rational part has finally taken over, and I know it would do more harm than good.

However, I still feel there's no reason topics arguing for the OOT and against the SE and PT shouldn't be accepted and even encouraged at sites like SW.com and TF.net. After all, they're general Star Wars sites, not (supposed to be) devoted to one incarnation of Star Wars like we are. Conversely, I still feel that dissenting views should be accepted here as well. I know I've said it before. There are some guys who come here and act holier than thou, saying we should be grateful and don't know what we're talking about. But there are others who come here politely suggesting something PT or SE supportive, and most people just run to jump on his case. And I feel that's extremely hypocritical.
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#223182
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BEAUTIFUL WOMEN NEW RULES IN FIRST POST (NSFW) UPDATED RULES
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I think she'd be cute if she did four things:

1. Ate more food.
2. Stopped wearing eye makeup, which is what I think is the creepiest-looking thing about her.
3. Got outside (I'm not a fan of tans by any means, but that's a bit too pale even for me)
4. Smiled once in a while. That bug-eyed facial expression is the second-creepiest thing about her.

But once those problems have been solved, and she stops looking like the girl from The Ring or maybe The Exorcist, then I think she'd be really attractive.
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#223180
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Video and Article: Rep Won't Let Customer Cancel AOL Account
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"while it is company policy (AOL is well known for not letting (giving people a hard time) people cancel their account) if that is an accurate transcript he took it way to far. Company policy or not, there's gotta be some point where you're just like, 'ok, sorry you're not happy with our service. we regret that we can't make it better for you, thank you. we will cancel your account' or something along those lines. and the reps need to use their head more in those situations."

Uh, yeah. This went on for well over 20 minutes, and I've heard portions that weren't on the regular news channel (not quite the whole thing, though), but from what I heard, this sales rep had serious issues. He was not interested in keeping the dude's business. He was taking it personally, and just trying to keep the customer going. It was a power play, pure and simple.


20 minutes?! You wouldn't happen to know where I could access other parts of this conversation, do you? All I've heard is the part that was linked to at the beginning of this thread.
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#223178
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Rankings
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Congrats to Ricardo and Shim. Now I gotta head over to FrobozzCo for a Sexxy Party....

And I guess congrats to Gaffer too.... grrrr


What are you grrring about? You have nearly 200 posts on me, now. I think you can sit pretty for a while.
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#223177
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Help me get BANNED on SW.COM!!!
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Have the audacity to suggest that Lucas's backstory for the prequels was not fully-formed until... well, I was going to say the mid-90s, but I think 2003 is a bit more accurate, don't you?

I really know what you can do! In your initial post (or you might want to divide them up among however many posts you think you have left until you're ousted), systematically and logically go through every single beef you have with the SE and the prequels, being very detailed as to why exactly they suck and drag down the Star Wars mythos. Might as well spark a debate (i.e. riot) while you're at it. But at least if you do that, you won't seem like an entirely immature flamer. They'll just ban you because you're a dissenter, and we all know that's wrong and sinful in the good ol' US of A! ^_~ Dare to conform!