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#1538592
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Uncorrected mistakes or unfixed issues of the 2019 (Maclunkey) Original Trilogy release?
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^ I found it!
 

From Pablo Hidalgo:

^ from his tweets here:

https://twitter.com/pabl0hidalgo/status/1655324707665891330 & https://twitter.com/pabl0hidalgo/status/1655325903487131648

So the 2019 Special Edition still has the Return of the Jedi stormtrooper helmets in Star Wars: ANH.
 

There is also this website with lots of information and many images for this subject:

http://www.starwarshelmets.com/Original-ROTJ-stormtrooper-armor-helmets.htm

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#1538585
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Uncorrected mistakes or unfixed issues of the 2019 (Maclunkey) Original Trilogy release?
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Marooned Biker Scout said:

This isn’t an “uncorrected mistakes or unfixed issue”, but it is a mistake and issue for the quality of image on the 2019 editions to be so lacking in detail:

adywan said:

Fullmetaled said:

@adywan you did you use sharpening tools just wondering Someone said this shot looked overly sharpened. It was on a discord

Well that shot is from 2 different sources, as was fully explained in the original post on this site where i posted that image. No sharpening was done. It was to show how much detail has been scrubbed from the 2020 blu-ray, which is the image on the left, compared to the detail in the 2011 Blu-Rays, which is the image on the right. The panels on the droid in the 2020 blu-rays have been almost scrubbed away including the weathering.

There are more examples in adywan’s “Star Wars: Episode IV Revisited Edition” thread, on page 490:

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/STAR-WARS-EP-IV-2004-REVISITED-ADYWAN-1080p-HD-VERSION-NOW-IN-PRODUCTION/id/5942/page/490

That is poor. Who signed off on that? I hope they correct or address that in their next release, or in an update on Disney+

 

Did they fix the Return of the Jedi style stormtrooper helmets appearing in the Special Edition releases of Star Wars (ANH) for the 2019 SE version?

I saw someone on twitter last week explaining that stormtrooper helmets in Return of the Jedi are different to those used in Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back. For some reason when Lucasfilm did the Special Editions in 1997 for all 3 OT films they used Return of the Jedi stormtrooper helmets by mistake.

It is only a small nitpick, but is yet another mistake introduced by the Special Editions.

I can’t find the twitter thread now, but I will look for it later.

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#1538396
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<em><strong>ANDOR</strong></em> - Disney+ Series - A General Discussion Thread
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Andor won a Peabody award! https://peabodyawards.com/stories/83rd-annual-peabody-awards-announced:

“Few other long-running franchises loom as large in today’s contemporary pop cultural imagination than Star Wars. Yet amid stories of destiny-driven heroes and doomed superpowered villains, Tony Gilroy’s Andor tackles that familiar galaxy with plenty of spectacle, but also a keen-eyed commitment to mirroring our own mundane trials and tribulations as it follows scavenger Cassian Andor (Diego Luna), who unwittingly becomes radicalized in the wake of a police state intent on crushing any and all signs of the Rebel Alliance.”
 

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#1538323
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Future of the Star Wars series - the “climactic story event”...
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rocknroll41 said:

Probably some kinda remake of The Thrawn Trilogy.

This man is Yoda! Nice call, rocknroll41.

Marooned Biker Scout said:

Personally I think it is a bit shit we’ll have to go to the cinema and pay for tickets to see a possible finale for the various Mandoverse TV series that “culminate into a climactic story event”. Or wait a number of months until the New Republic film appears on Disney+.

I agree, it is poor form from Disney/Lucasfilm to do that. I’m still not happy with the stunt they pulled in resolving the season 2 finale of The Mandalorian in Book Of Boba Fett. Plus they didn’t even recap it for season 3 of Mando!

That, and do I do hope they land this New Republic film, and whatever this “climactic story event” is. But that hope is fading if the quality and execution of stories is going to be like BoBF or the last season and a half of The Mandalorian.

I hope it will be a memorable and quality story too. I hope we get a level above, or more, than what we’ve been getting of late as well.

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#1538257
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On Jedi and Attachment
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Servii said:

So, I’m in the middle of watching the PT with director’s commentary, because it was recommended to me, and something that George Lucas said during Shmi’s death scene really struck me. George said that her death was inevitable, and that Anakin’s insistence on setting out to find her showed his inability to let go of his attachments and accept the inevitability of death.

But Shmi’s death wasn’t inevitable. Anakin had 10 years to come back and save her from slavery. Hell, if he’d come back even just a day earlier, he might have been able to rescue her. And even ignoring that, if you found out a family member had been kidnapped, and there was even the slightest chance that they were still alive and could be saved, of course you’d go get them. At the very least, you’d want the certainty of whether they’re dead or not, so that you can properly mourn for them.

If Shmi had died from natural causes, then the message would have made more sense. Her getting kidnapped and tortured to death obviously wasn’t an inevitable thing, and would have been easily avoidable.

I agree. To me it appears George did not fully think through the changes he made to the Star Wars universe he created for the Prequels. Before the Prequels Jedi had family (Owen and Obi-Wan as brothers in the film novel), Jedi had children (Anakin fathering Luke), and so Jedi would have likely had wives, husbands or long term partners (maybe depending on what species they were), and even something as simple as the robes that Obi-Wan and Yoda wore were not considered the Jedi “uniform” (many everyday people wore similar or the same type of clothing).

Why he would make these changes just to help rewrite the Jedi so it made it somehow easier or a setting to help for Anakin to “betray and hunt down the Jedi” I do not understand.

Your point on Shmi above is another example. It is also a problem with George at the time of writing and directing making the Prequels: he tells us what is happening, but he does not show it. The old rule of “Show, don’t tell” is ignored by George many many times throughout the time of the Prequels.

Shmi’s death wasn’t inevitable, it was not really shown this way on film, or in the larger story, and as your wrote above it is simple to argue otherwise (in Anakin going back to free from slavery days or years before).

Did George think he did not have the story make more logical sense? It is almost as if people around him believe everything he says for so long, and did not challenge him, and having large section of fans believe whatever he said without question, that maybe he even believed he didn’t have to actually show this in a meaningful and effective way? Or that his focus was elsewhere on the technology being used to shoot the films, or something else? (like the lack of people around to challenge him, offer alternatives, point out and address any issues and so on).

Hayden Christensen’s thoughts at the time of ROTS on the criticism he received give an insight in George’s thinking: “I guess the impression that I got from George Lucas was that if they don’t like them, then they don’t ‘get’ it – and that was good enough for me.”, which is quite an arrogant and dismissive way of thinking from George.

It does not appear George’s focus was on making the story logical, or stand up to any general scrutiny the casual viewer may have had for these changes made to the SWU for the Prequels (before we go into the nitpicking, and scene by scene dissection that many of us Star Wars fans are known for!) 😃

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#1538248
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how did you react to the Yoda Reveal?
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Marooned Biker Scout said:

I didn’t appreciate as a kid that the scene moves so fast due to Yoda’s delivery and Kershner’s considered direction that the reveal is almost overshadowed by Yoda’s letting Luke know he’s trained Jedi for 800 years and he needs no prompting from him if he is to be trained, and so on. The whole scene seemed magical, overwhelming to the emotions, that it was a lot to take in.

This super cool magical mysterious muppet creature seemed somehow real, but also otherworldly, to the point of complete belief of who he was.

The simplicity of the scene, in among all that technical wizardry, helped give it that grounded, yet magical, feel for me.

And the scene just propels the story forward. I think in modern films this would have an epic theme running in the background, some sort of crescendo and visual build-up: a slow-motion montage or “hero shot” type scene. Yet in Empire, it just happened, it was cool and accepted, with the script and direction pushing you forward to the back and forth between Yoda and Ben’s conversation.

Yes! I shudder and hate to think how such a scene would be shot today or in the last 10 years.

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#1538109
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<strong>Star Wars: Visions</strong> (animated short films) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Sith was beautiful, and enthralling story too. I see why they chose this to be the first episode of this Volume 2.

Screecher’s Reach: I agree with daveybjones999, a haunting tale, and emotional too.

In the Stars was a great Star Wars fable, gorgeous animation and had my full attention.

I am Your Mother was fun to watch, though I was expecting and hoping for a little more. Especially as we were told Wedge would be in this more. I did like the thoughtful message of the episode.

Journey to the Dark Head: the story and characters worked really well, and I was on the edge of my seat for much of this.

The Spy Dancer: using French resistance theme as the basis for this was a great concept. Beautiful animation.

The Bandits of Golak: the characters and world building were nicely done. The CGI was inspiring, and this is one of the stories I’d like to see continue.

The Pit: the metaphor of Dubai using a modern day slave labor to build their capital cities is on full display here. Emotional, and very well done in the Star Wars setting.

Aau’s Song is something I could watch on repeat all day. It is the kind of animation that was on TV so much when I was a child. Not only this, but the story, although simple, was beautifully done. A great choice to end this Volume of Visions.

 

I really enjoyed Volume 2, and like Volume 1 will happily watch them all again soon. There are also rumours Volume 3 is in development!

https://onetakenews.com/2023/05/04/star-wars-visions-volume-3-in-development

https://www.slashfilm.com/1277185/star-wars-visions-volume-2-producers-envision-a-muppet-like-style-for-volume-3

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#1538094
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Behind the Magic CD-ROMs
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MasterKal said:

screams in the void said:

Me too ! The interface and the Storm trooper Weapons test alone were worth the price alone and the whole 2 discs were a rabbit hole I went down for hours on end . I was just looking at that old original thread that Gary1 linked to . Did anyone ever complete a preservation project of this ?

I DID!!! well My friend and me!

This is a video.
https://streamyard.com/e/89k9m9mex3i3zyu2

That is so very cool!

And I wish you a lot of luck with finishing it!

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#1537946
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Behind the Magic CD-ROMs
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Even the cover art and box for this was so cool.

 

screams in the void said:

Me too ! The interface and the Storm trooper Weapons test alone were worth the price alone and the whole 2 discs were a rabbit hole I went down for hours on end . I was just looking at that old original thread that Gary1 linked to.

Oh yes, absolutely. Back then it seemed every Star Wars release was so cool, fun and had so many fascinating extras and content on them.

I don’t know what changed?: us all getting older, or Lucasfilm getting lazier or more profit driven? Maybe some cynicism (or experience) on our part a little too?

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#1537943
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how did you react to the Yoda Reveal?
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darklordoftech said:

I was surprised and thought, “Is this Yoda’s brother?”

I thought very along similar lines, that it was his brother, or close friend. Byt also that there would be a journey across the dangerous swamp to get Luke to Yoda. Kind of like in Krull.

Looking back I am glad that didn’t happen. Although Krull is a good fun film in itself.

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#1537942
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Random Musings about the Empire Strikes Back Draft Script
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Marooned Biker Scout said:

Channel72 said:

  • There’s a lot more exposition about the state of the Galaxy. There’s a scene where a Rebel commander explains that after the Death Star was destroyed, many systems joined the Rebellion, but the Imperial navy is still very powerful, and is currently spread thin around the Galaxy pursuing rebel cells. This kind of exposition is missing in the final version, requiring us to infer these background details ourselves. (Also the final version seems to imply Echo Base is the only rebel base.)

I do like that the idea of knowing more about what occurred in the galaxy after the Death Star was destroyed. But for some reason, probably Kershner’s skill as a director and keeping the tension and stakes high, the focus on Hoth does leave us thinking this could well be most, if not all, of the rebels.

darklordoftech said:

I wish they made a comic adaptation of this draft like they did of the rough draft of ANH (“The Star Wars”).

“The Star Wars” sold very well and generated a lot of interest and publicity at the time. So it is very surprising they didn’t follow it up with a version for this draft script too. Most unlike Lucasfilm under Disney.

I’d still love to see it done, even today.

Emre1601 said:

It is such a pity we did not get to her 2nd draft and a polish, that she was contracted to do for the Empire script. Before the cancer took her, just weeks after she turned that first draft in to George.

Yeah, it’d fascinating to have seen how the draft script would have developed in Leigh Brackett’s 2nd draft in a “what if?” way.

Personally I really like the the original backstory idea for Lando Calrissian being one of the last few clones still around after the Clone Wars.

I agree, on both your “what if?” way, and that Lando being one of the last Clones around was a really cool and alluring character background and story line I’d have like to have seen explored further.

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#1537783
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70s/80s Tv Episodes that mention/reference Star Wars
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Marooned Biker Scout said:

Channel72 said:

Muppet Babies referenced Star Wars in every single episode.

And The Muppet Show had a Star Wars themed episode, guest starring Mark Hamill.

That Muppet Show episode was great. Really enjoyable. The “Pigs in Space” sketches in many of Muppet shows were always good for some Star Wars and sci-fi references too.
 

A little after the 80’s, but the mentions in “How I met Your Mother” were quite funny at times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZEi5ll0TuA

“Pigs in Space” was great fun when I was a young kid. I was disappointed when the weekly Muppet Shows didn’t have those segments in them. Gonzo as “Dearth Nadir” was cool to see, and obviously also Mark Hamill in the later episode.

Volume 1 of Pigs in Space: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU0rj6drXdI
Volume 2 of Pigs in SPace: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1Xq8sXgazc

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#1537780
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Opinion: Star Wars is entering a new golden age, but not in onscreen media
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I love and respect the positivity in this thread jedi_bendu. How well do you feel the High Republic project has done now we just over half way through with the main novels? Or anyone else who has read the novels so far?

And did you enjoy new Qi’ra stories?

I’m asking as they did get my initial interest, and I very nearly bought the first comic, so may come back to these comics in the near future.

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#1537676
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Plinkett's Prequel reviews
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I’d cherry-pick what many have already said in here about the Plinkett Reviews: 80-90% of the criticism is still valid, there are many funny points made, it articulated many of the large problems many fans had with the films rather than nitpicks, and the whole trilogy massive logic holes. And it resonated with many people as it was probably the first popular video or article to put all these fan criticisms and issues together in one place, along with even more attuned insights and views from Mike.

Someone on here posted recently about the Star Trek tactical guy appearing in Plinkett’s TPM review and the ST guy “calling out” the entire bizarre battle plan, and the “without the Viceroy they will be lost lost and confused” line. It is still valid, and still makes me laugh when you watch it or it gets referenced, even this many years later.
 

I agree the Halloween/Nadine murder subplot is now quite dated, and a bit weird without context. At the time it was a regular thing they were trying to make happen, a spin-off story continuing into their other preview videos? Sort of like a “like, subscribe and come back to watch more of our content” before it was “a thing” for YouTube channels to do?

 

The HD remaster of the Plinkett Reviews on YouTube:

TPM: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-syXiGG5jVLgvcsDHJvsJYG8DaIfn4Dh (7 parts)
AOTC: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-syXiGG5jVKoUIVuWxfNmYjRrCdaahwo (3 parts)
ROTS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYWAHuFbLoc (already in HD from Plinkett/RLM. 1 part)
 

If I was asked to suggest a comprehensive review for the Prequel Trilogy for a new fan, then I’d still recommend this.

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#1537566
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Searching for the Blu-ray versions of L8wrtr's prequel edits
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strykerking said:

Hello,
I’ve been scouring the internet looking for the Blu-ray version of these edits. I’ve added every torrent tracker I can find to the downloader but it seems there is no one left who has this file to seed it, only peers trying to download.

Does anyone have links to get access to these versions? Also, if anyone knows where I can get the DVD versions that would be great too. Fanedit only has one version in DVD format the rest are just video files.

Thank you

No luck with sending L8wrtr a PM on Fanedit or on here?

The Index thread at the top of this page has L8wrtr’s edits listed. Did you try looking or posting in there?

Fanedit dot info also has his Prequel edits listed. Some other of his edits too.

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#1537232
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Heir to the Empire - animated fan film series adaptation (up on youtube)
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Juno Eclipse said:

Emre1601 said:

Star Wars: Heir to the Empire - Part One

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC9fYUDQ6CM - 1 hour and 50 minute video at the DarthAngelus YouTube channel.

What an awesome fan project. I’m only 30 minutes in, but this is really impressive.

Chapter 23 is now listed on his channel as being made available tomorrow, May 4th.

A nice touch, releasing that on the 4th 😃

Yes, great project. All those awards on the front thumbnail cover, whatever they are for, he has deserved them all, for all the time, commitment, and very high quality in his videos. I hope he will do more projects like this, after a well earned rest!

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#1537159
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Mysteries of hyperspace?
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Marooned Biker Scout said:

Maxo said:

I was reading the Star Wars YT-1300 Complete Reference Manual and it mentioned that their are some aspects of hyperspace that remain a mystery aside from those well-established facts acknowledged by all competent astrophysicists.

What could be one of the main mysteries? I can’t think of any.

Space aliens! 😃

The Purrgil may now get a mention, and hopefully some further explanation and detailing in the coming Ahsoka series?

Those space-faring whale-like creatures that appear in the “Rebels” animated series, will likely feature in some sort of reasoning as to what happened with both Ezra and Thrawn?

Oh, shit! They’re going to link hyperspace travel to the Force, or force sensitive Purrgil, aren’t they?

I really hope they not do that.