Having it available for the upcoming home 4K push is absolutely part of the pitch package. I agree it’s a powerful asset!
Maybe it’ll be that disc that just about everyone has with their first UHD player. Like the Matrix was for a lot of people’s DVD players.
That’s the power of a system seller.
Here’s what I’m wondering: what is the maximum resolution that can be obtained from a 35mm print? Didn’t Mike say on one of his Vimeo videos that the Blu-ray had more detail than Legacy because it was sourced from the original negative? And so would it really matter if Legacy ends up being released in 1080p or 4K if the detail boost is negligible? Or am I completely wrong about this? (this is a strong possibility)
Of course, the big hope is he gets the raw materials/better prints to expand this work even further and go for the gold. Obviously if he can only work/release the material he has now, only he would know up to what resolution/level the release would suit. (Though the statement that this is theatrical re-release ready makes me hope for the bigger and better options that are possible, ala the big post above on UHD BR)
Hey Mike, something that should probably boost your (I’m sure) already fantastic pitch that I think everyone here would love, would be UHD/4K Bluray.
On the business end, what we have in our hands here is a system seller. THE definitive system seller.
UHD/4K Bluray becomes an established format overnight from a Legacy release, and I can’t stress that enough. It is exactly what both the fans and the established online tech media craves, popular content. Honestly, even with studio catalog releases eventually reaching UHD, format buyers will remain niche, basically a videophiles-haven, but really only videophiles will care. That is, unless OOT Star Wars comes into play. So far the media has laughed at the catalog launch choices for the format: “Smurfs 2? Hancock? Fant4stic? what nonsense! Let disks die!” And then watch as they flip the script with something not just polished, but universally recognizable. It’s the push needed to get other studios on board for the format.
From the fan perspective, it’s the perfect storm. “What, you’re telling me I can watch Star Wars in its original form in perfect condition on my new-fangled TV? Where do I sign?” The pitch is two-fold, as the system-seller aspect is just that, selling not just disks, but hardware/players SOLELY to play that one disk. And people will do it. I know I will (Yeah, I would like to see all your masterwork in full resolution, not some further compressed and downscaled imitation), but I do know that many many others will too, not just videophiles, and not just us loons.
I very much place you with Kevin Brownlow in the pantheon of film preservation. He’s finally got Napoleon lined up for a real release (Albeit 2K, but probably the best with the material he has), now you have the chance with Legacy. Lets allow everyone to see this film (legally) in its beauty in FULL, and I mean FULL form. 4K or bust, baby!
Almost there… almost there!
Right now, it’s:
Samsung 40" F6300 Edge-lit 120Hz LCD (& i1Display-Pro/3 to calibrate)
Denon X2200W AVR
Definitive Center 1000 & 2x Monitor 800 (For 3.1)
Dayton SUB-800 Subwoofer
Region-Free Modded LG BP340 Blu-Ray Player & 1TB External HDD
Fios Box
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NES - RGB Modded
SNES - RGB & Digital Coax Modded
N64 - HDMI Modded
PS1 w/ Stock RGB
PS4
Dreamcast
GameCube w/ D-Terminal
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XRGB-Mini Upscaler (For RGB, duh)
Lumagen Vision HDQ Upscaler (For GC & DC)
Bandridge 5-SCART Switch
I’ve only got to wait about a month and a half for the dream, that new E6 LG OLED (Will prob get the 55"). No more gray uniformity issues, no vignetting problems, low input lag (34ms) (FINALLY), FULL calibration settings (10pt gray, 3D CMS, gamma), and of course +3D, +4K, +HDR, and that gorgeous, gorgeous viewing angle, black level and contrast. It’ll also be interesting watching DeEd through 10-bit processing (Since one should normally process a level above the bits mastered) and with a panel that can integer scale it. (720x3=2160).
Oh, and hopefully around the same time I can get the NES HDMI modded to boot.
Lookin pretty good over here soon.
Ziggy Stardust said:
A trend that I've noticed in the three previews of this film is that it's taking itself too seriously. Cryptic dialogue, an unrelenting dark/sad tone, and a refusal to say what the film is about, other than "it's about Star Wars." Where's the fun banter? The simple, swashbuckling adventure style?
Pretty important point here that's kinda being ignored. It's the best term I can link to that elusive "Star Wars feel". It's not just "Well the old films were from the 70s/80s, what'd you expect?" Star Wars is much more classic swashbuckler fantasy (Like the old Douglas Fairbanks films of the 10s/20s or serials like Flash Gordon) than sci-fi or modern action. Both OT and Indiana Jones master that style. Granted the characters in-universe may need some level of seriousness, but the near-deadpan expressions and dialouge, along with the lack of shots SHOWING said style in the trailer doesn't exactly give any hope that it'll "feel" like Star Wars to us, practical effects or not.
From what's given to us so far, I'm not hooked yet. But I guess we'll see. Remember that there was heavy denial at the release of Phantom Menace.
AntcuFaalb said:
CatBus said:
Finally, on the videophile side, few people have calibrated their displays for RGB PC output, so, for those who haven't, the BT.709 output from a Blu-ray player is truly better (assuming the display is calibrated at all).
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I get sick of typing this all the time.
I'd like to add that: Even if you've calibrated your display to PC RGB, you can still screw things up; e.g., you play a video game which alters the gamma and then doesn't reset it to what it was upon exit.
If you're going to use a PC, then it's usually best to use a untamperable display out, such as a Blackmagic UltraStudio Mini Monitor (thunderbolt).
Eh, tis the reason why my 2 TV inputs are split between BT1886/YUV Color and full-range RGB. PC hookups and upscaled game-systems through RGB, and cable/blu-ray/films/roku through YUV. All I need to know before hooking something up is which color space does it output.
The one thing though is the entire chain should be maintained, from source to display. (YUV source needing to be played on YUV output device to a display it's enabled for [ie for YUV, "extended" color/deep black/native color turned off], and then optionally calibrated for said space)
Which dooooes beg the question, which color space is the DeEd rendered in? RGB or YUV/Rec? It would actually help me decide where I end up re-playing this.
Welp, looks like I'm gonna need an invite too. ;) Always wanted to see this in its proper form.