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Dunedain

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#1393253
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Info: Mike Verta’s 4K Restoration - May 2020 Livestream
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Well, let’s suppose that someone decided, because it had not been done yet (again, supposing), to do a restoration of Gone With The Wind, himself. Now it turns out this fellow isn’t actually a fan of this movie because it doesn’t suit his personal tastes, he doesn’t care much for war/drama, etc. (however you wish to categorize the story) films. But he does recognize that it’s a very important film in the history of film making and so on, and feels it’s his duty as a film enthusiast with at least some of the skills needed to take up this challenge and restore it as well as he is able, using the best sources he can find. Mike doesn’t have to be a huge fan of films like Star Wars for him to recognize how important a film it is. In fact, it’s all the more impressive how he put such an enormous effort into this, even though it’s not quite his type of movie. =)

As to George Lucas. I read about a fan sometime back that was able to get invited to an event where George would be. I think it cost money, it might have been a ticket that was auctioned off for charity or whatever. Anyhow, he got to attend and he met George. He complimented him on his film-making and how much he enjoyed Star Wars and so on. Then, like a true Star Wars fan, he took the opportunity to ask George something like, “Hey, why not just also release the original Star Wars trilogy unaltered?”. George’s answer was along the lines of rolling his eyes and saying that they were his films, etc. George simply prefers the altered versions, apparently because they more seamlessly blend (Hayden, etc.) with the prequels and so on. Which I can see what he means, even if many of us fans would like at least the option to see the trilogy unaltered in the best possible quality. But George was quite clear in his answer, he wants the latest version of the Special Editions to be the ones that are on store shelves now. This clear response directly to a fan when asked, combined with the not subtle hints given by others at Lucasfilm, etc., makes it nearly certain that the reason the unaltered trilogy has not been fully restored (at least publicly) and released in a box set is because George doesn’t want it to be. And as much as I wish he would change his mind on that, I can respect that as an artist he wants his various alterations and also the way the two trilogies blend together now to be what is being offered for sale at this time. Even though I strongly disagree with some of those changes. Maybe he will change his mind, but for now, fan restorations are the only option. Fortunately, with the film scans now available for replacing altered scenes, those can be very good indeed.

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#888433
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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Haven’t seen it, but I heard it’s a really bad quality rip-off of the story in the first Star Wars, incredibly lacking in originality. To the point where any criticisms against how references to the original trilogy were handled in the prequels make Lucas seem like a master of subtlety…

Is that the feeling a lot of other Star Wars fans have that have already seen it?

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#879524
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Color matching and prediction: color correction tool v1.3 released!
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DrDre said:

Here’s an attempt at color correcting one of the soldier shots in the Star Wars bluray.

Bluray:

Regarde:

Thanks for the pass over the image, that’s much improved. 😃 But I can see this shot is going to be one of those hard ones, that orangey carrot effect seen in the videos can be tough to get rid of. Might even need some kind of separate intra-frame correction that’s only applied to the skin, with all else in the frame getting a different set of correction values. Hmm, is there such a tool?

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#879043
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Color matching and prediction: color correction tool v1.3 released!
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DrDre said:

Dunedain said:

DrDre said:

Dunedain said:

NeverarGreat said:

DrDre said:
![](<a href=)http://oi57.tinypic.com/3486avs.jpg" width=“720” height=“306” />

The improvement is a good one 😃 The skin tones, hair, and shirt all look just right.

I’d say this one is still the best overall. It’s gets rid of that carroty redness that’s always a problem for everyone onboard the ship better than any other correction I’ve seen. Restoring a natural fair appearance. Great job. I’d be very interested to see these same settings from this version of the correction used on the Imperial officers we see on the Tantive IV, if you please, DrDre. 😃

Which officers are we talking about?

Commander Daine Jir - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Daine_Jir

and Commander Praji - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nahdonnis_Praji

Thanks very much if you can apply the settings used in the picture I refer to in my previous post on those two officers (using the best possible close-up shots available in the film) at high res. =)

I tested the color correction model on those frames, and it doesn’t look great. The Star Wars bluray really needs a shot by shot regrade.

Ah, I see. What do the results look like with the best suited correction settings for the shots those two officers are in? Thanks for checking! 😃

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#878360
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Color matching and prediction: color correction tool v1.3 released!
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DrDre said:

Dunedain said:

NeverarGreat said:

DrDre said:
![](<a href=)http://oi57.tinypic.com/3486avs.jpg" width=“720” height=“306” />

The improvement is a good one 😃 The skin tones, hair, and shirt all look just right.

I’d say this one is still the best overall. It’s gets rid of that carroty redness that’s always a problem for everyone onboard the ship better than any other correction I’ve seen. Restoring a natural fair appearance. Great job. I’d be very interested to see these same settings from this version of the correction used on the Imperial officers we see on the Tantive IV, if you please, DrDre. 😃

Which officers are we talking about?

Commander Daine Jir - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Daine_Jir

and Commander Praji - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nahdonnis_Praji

Thanks very much if you can apply the settings used in the picture I refer to in my previous post on those two officers (using the best possible close-up shots available in the film) at high res. =)

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#794619
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Color matching and prediction: color correction tool v1.3 released!
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NeverarGreat said:



DrDre said:
<img src="http://oi57.tinypic.com/3486avs.jpg" width="720" height="306" />


 The improvement is a good one :) The skin tones, hair, and shirt all look just right.


I'd say this one is still the best overall. It's gets rid of that carroty redness that's always a problem for everyone onboard the ship better than any other correction I've seen. Restoring a natural fair appearance. Great job. I'd be very interested to see these same settings from this version of the correction used on the Imperial officers we see on the Tantive IV, if you please, DrDre. :)

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#789877
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Star Wars theatrical versions not coming in 2015
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Criss has a point, if it was just the money, Lucas would have taken the free offer for a restoration. I remember that offer being made, it was one or more professional restoration guys were willing to do it for little or no money, they just wanted to preserve and restore the Star Wars trilogy and then give it back to Lucasfilm (similar to what Mike ended up doing, except they would have had full access to the best materials to work with).

This is mainly about his ego, which apparently has grown to gigantic proportions over the years. He thinks his changes in the SE, the even more SE (2004) and now the yet *more* SE (2011) are just brilliant. And he's quite annoyed that so many Star Wars fans strongly disagree with him on that, and find at least some of the changes very intrusive, incongruent, silly and in just plain bad taste. So he walked off in a huff and didn't want to play nice any more. But since he didn't have much interest in making more Star Wars movies (likely because the prequels got a rather, shall we say, cool reception among Star Wars fans... plus the general irritation among fans over a lack of the unaltered original trilogy in high quality), he decided to sell the whole thing to Disney. And now that it's no longer his direct responsibility what Disney does, he can distance himself, artistically and creatively speaking, from whatever Disney does in terms of releasing the unaltered original trilogy or whatever garbage they stick in these new movies (and he has a point there...).

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#789820
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Star Wars theatrical versions not coming in 2015
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That's fantastic news, if it's true. :) And one would think that George (through Landis) would know...

And "releasing" better = full scale (big budget, all the time they need) restoration, not some quick 1, 2, 3 job like last time (2004 SE), only now with just a bit more resolution. *rolls eyes* But rather a proper Lawrence of Arabia level restoration done by the best pros in that field. *cue telephone call to Mike to hire him on as a special consultant* :)

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#788515
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Color matching and prediction: color correction tool v1.3 released!
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That shot of the Rebel trooper might just be the best I have seen so far (at least off the top of my head), that weird orangey/carroty/redness is gone and he just looks a lot more natural and real. Now, being that this is matched to the IB print, everything might not be exactly the tone that would be in an actual 35mm print, but it's still way better than he usually looks in most any uncorrected source. And I guess it goes to show that as bad as the Blu-ray set is, with some careful color correction, it can be made to look far better / more accurate than it is at default on the disk.

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#784912
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Star Wars OT &amp; 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
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Well, to be more precise, this would be the second blu-ray version, I thought it might have been V3 overall if the first one was DVD res. Anyhow this is in regards to the new improved (V2) TESB and RotJ blu-ray 720p versions, the Star Wars one having already been released a few months back. :)

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#784703
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Star Wars OT &amp; 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
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Well, if I recall correctly, they took a bit of a breather while they worked on some other movie projects after Star Wars was finished, then they were going to come back and finish up V3 of TESB and RotJ. And now that it's been several months since then, I was wondering about the status of the next two parts of the trilogy.

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#784194
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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The question is, will they spend the money for a truly first-class restoration: using all the best sources available, bring in the top restoration experts, blank check, take all the time they need to do it perfectly, etc.?

That's what *should* be done, and even with the expense, it makes sense to protect and restore these films to the nth degree. It would be utterly foolish not to do so. They just spent a fortune to buy Lucasfilm, and to not protect the most valuable thing Lucasfilm has as well as it can possibly be done, would be a huge loss even from just a business perspective. But that doesn't mean they *will* do it...

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#777852
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Team Negative1 - The Empire Strikes Back 1980 - 35mm Theatrical Version (Released)
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This looks great, excellent detail and natural filmic look. I think the single best thing about it is the lack of artificiality, like you get in an overprocessed dvd, for example. Nice work! :)

If there a superior print to this that the actual full restoration will be derived from, then I can only imagine how good that will look. :)