Dozer Davis

Holy shit, haven’t seen any activity in this old thread of mine since 2023… so much so that I might have to make a new one because there have been some new info I’ve gathered for this project since, lmao.

Yeah, I’ve been slowly working on this recreation for quite a while now… you might be able to tell because the account I used here to make this thread was my old “IncrediStudios” one. Quite a relic of an era, if I have to say so myself. But while I have yet to share some actual screenshots, recreate the outtake credits, and actually complete the “snowcone” thing I brought up in this thread once, I will bring up a few things.

1. The trailers may or may not be scrapped, dunno if they’re necessary or not, but they’d be cool to have for the project, I suppose. “For The Birds” will be kept though if I haven’t mentioned that already, especially since there’s some subtle differences between the theatrical version and the home video version.
2. The DTS track on the Blu-ray is very faulty. Reason being is because the orchestral score that accompanies it is strangely “stereoed” into the surround sound channels, causing the soundtrack to sound odd. This has been the case for every release of the film since, even on Disney+ prints. I have a copy of the correct 5.1 mix on hand through the Academy Screener (the v1 mix, without the outtakes), which will be mixed with the final 5.1 mix that has the outtakes, which I also have isolated from a PAL DVD ISO. Despite this, there is a subtle difference between the DVD 5.1 mix and the Theatrical 5.1 mix too that I’ll point out in a new version of this thread.
3. The color-grading, as brought up by AwesomeJ, will definitely match the DVD. I have already formulated this in Videoleap and the screenshots I have will show this. The Disney/Pixar logos will also look correct too.
4. The snowcones thing is still a prominent thing in the project, and I’ll be using a 3D Blu-ray rip to accurately rotoscope it into the film. Interestingly, there’s also an error with a glacier that’s in one shot that disappears in the theatrical cut that’s fixed in the 3D version, but I won’t use that here since it’s inaccurate to the theatrical version.
5. The Outtakes & Company Play reel during the credits is still missing. I have attempted to recreate it myself, but I’ve gone nowhere for a while. Notably, foreign TV prints have these in the credits, but I haven’t obtained an HD copy for myself unless you count a VHS rip of a Channel 5 airing from 2009 which has them at the end. If anyone happens to have a copy of the film which has these outtakes at the end in HD (and it actually has the missing “PixarVision”, “Buena Vista Negative Cutting”, Color Timing, etc… credits like the Blu-ray/Academy Screener DVD has for the v1 credits), please DM me. Again, I’ll make this clear in the new version of this thread. As a reference, I believe this version has aired on Foxtel Movies Family in Australia, various Disney Channel stations in foreign markets like China, Mexico and Indonesia, Star Movies HD in one market, and I presume any station elsewhere that DOESN’T have the newer Disney logo in front of it. If you see the old Pixar castle at the beginning, you have a good chance of finding the outtakes at the end.

And for the most part, I think that might be it! I’ll bring up anything new once I find time to make a new thread of this with updated information where it’s not tied to my old account that I barely use anymore.

TristAndShout64 said:

Hey y’all– the final encode is FINALLY finished and I’m currently in the process of slowly but surely getting it out to people. Thank you for bearing with me!

My apologies, I have indeed been quite busy with my personal life being a bit of a mess at the moment. I will be messaging people individually and getting the necessary details to share the scan with them– just hang in there, we are so close!

~Trist

Even if I’m so inactive here on this platform to the point where my own profile is outdated now, I have been keeping my eye out on this project’s progress periodically for a while now since I donated in July 2023… hearing that the final thing is already encoded and prepared for release is very exciting! Can’t wait to finally see this thing in action whenever I get it, even if there is a splice somewhere in the middle… wonder how much footage is lost from that, genuinely curious about that little detail there.

HAttackontheBun said:

Considering this short has Dolby Stereo, will it be decoded in Dolby A or SR?

I am assuming that the mix that is on the print is SR, considering that many Disney films during this period usually were encoded in DOLBY SR, so I would probably say that it’s in SR. Plus, it looks to be in stereo, so I’d assume it’s an SR mix. I will update this forum once the print is fully donated & scanned to confirm if this mix IS in SR, considering that I don’t have any proof that it isn’t in Dolby SR yet.

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Hello.
A few months ago, I purchased a genuine 35mm print of the 1992 animated CGI/CEL hybrid Disney short entitled “Off His Rockers”. Now, if you’ve seen this short, you already know that the only place you can watch the short is on the “Honey I Blew Up The Kid” laserdisc, which has been archived on YouTube before in its low, laserdisc quality. Of course, like any move that Disney would do, the short since then hasn’t gotten any HD release of any kind. It’s not even on Disney+. Go figure. Ironically, this Disney short, via the laserdisc rip and it’s re-uploads, hasn’t even been taken down by Disney themselves, to a point where I suspect that Disney doesn’t even care about the short anymore enough to take it down.

But now with this 35mm print in my hands, imported from the UK (with a BBFC rating card too!), we might as well finally have a chance to finally see this thing in its proper 4K glory… on the 35mm format! I will be taking donations in order to scan this in order to make this scan as perfect as possible. I am looking into making at least between $200 and $250 in order to get all of the funds for scanning, shipping, etc.

Once it is scanned, the short WILL be released on YouTube in its full glory (considering that Disney doesn’t even take down this thing…). Hopefully, FT Depot doesn’t beat me to the punch for this thing!

Hope to see you all in the future so that we can see this underrated short in HD for the first time!

Sincerely, Dozer Davis

Toy Story, as far as I’m aware, never had a theatrical DTS track. However, assuming that this is referring to the DTS laserdisc (that was basically a DTS version of the original theatrical Dolby Stereo Digital track), there is a difference between the two tracks. Some dialogue delays that occur in this DCP exclusive audio track actually make it so that they are placed closely to the original theatrical track. The ending of the film before the credits start shows proof, as woody’s worried chuckle before it cuts to black is placed at the same spot as the original theatrical track, while on the comparing 2010 Blu-ray track, woody’s chuckle happens slightly earlier. I have a comparison of it somewhere in my video files, but it is a minor difference. I’m sure there are some other differences between the DCP track and the original DTS laserdisc/Dolby Stereo Digital track, but for now this should give an indication that the DCP track is different from the original track and the 2010 Blu-ray track.

As of writing this post, the Disney100 re-release is still playing in theaters until Thursday. Disney’s own El Capitan will be showing the film the same day this part of the D100 engagement ends before the switchover to Frozen, so if you are going to attempt to get the audio via Assistant Listening Devices if those even work, you might need to do it now before it’s too late. I’ve heard Frozen is just the same DCP print from 10 years ago, even with the Get A Horse thing before it.

EVEN IF IT’S JUST THE CENTER CHANNEL, IT STILL COUNTS AS A HIGH QUALITY AUDIO RIP!

Hello.
I am here to post something that I have been stumped about for at least a while now about the DCP versions of the 1995 CG animated comedy, Toy Story.

I’ve seen this version of the film in theaters at least three times now and every time I watched it in theaters, I’ve noticed that the film has a completely different sound mix than what most DVD & Blu-ray copies have.

While the visuals are identical to the 2010 Blu-ray releases, the audio mix is very different when comparing it to the Blu-ray’s 5.1 DTS-HD sound mix. In this sound mix that is somewhat exclusive to DCP showings, some bits of dialogue apparently have been moved slightly during specific points for some reason. Notable examples include the Pixar sound effects being quiet at first before becoming loud once the lamp stops at the I at the opening logos, the dialogue being delayed slightly during the opening song, a subtle out-of-sync sound effect when Woody coughs into a microphone, Sid’s first bit of dialogue, which is played on a surround channel, playing earlier than usual, and some loud twinkling sound effects at the closing Walt Disney Pictures logo.

Now, I don’t know how this mix was made, neither do I know if it’s a 7.1 mix or a 5.1 mix, or if it’s on any of the Blu-ray releases, but it’s a really interesting mix and I want to see it preserved somehow. I have two audio recordings of the audio that I have, one from the El Capitan Theatre re-release (2021) that had a lot of echoing and another from the recent Disney100 re-release that sounds more clear than the former.

If anyone could figure out a way to record this sound mix in a high quality in ANY WAY, or if you have a very professional sounding recording of the audio mix that I could sync up with the BD (of course by speeding it up to 23.93fps), that would be great. However, I have no clue if that will ever happen considering that this is a “DCP exclusive” mix and the whole piracy thing. But hey, I did it so I could make this post, I guess. And plus, it would become a “lost media” thing anyway if I didn’t record it.

Just donated $30 for this project! Sorry if I did it later than what I had anticipated, I didn’t really have time to do it when I said I was going to do it. But, I still can’t wait to see this scan regardless! Plus, I’ve heard of Rare Toy Story before, so it’s cool that he was able to promote this!

I am looking forward to donating sometime next week when I get paid. I love this movie to death and seeing it on a vintage format is definitely something for me and I assume everyone else.

I already suspect that this project is dead due to the 35mm scan that is currently in progress, however I am actually interested in a copy of this while I wait for the scan to happen. I know for sure there will be some differences between the two. Definitely interested in both 2D & 3D versions if you have the time for that.