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#1485727
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The Phantom Menace - Improved Edition (10 years on the forum edit) (Released)
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Bridger12 said:

What was the source of this version? The 2011 Blu-Ray, or the 2020 Blu-Ray? The former is 2.35:1, and the latter is 2:39.1. I’m asking because I prefer the latter, to match the 4K Star Wars Blu-Rays I own.

The edit uses the the Kk650’s regraded version, based on the 2011 bluray version as a source. KK’s version also has an added layer of grain to make it look more filmic and “bring out” some detail lost in the original DNR process.

I wouldn’t give too much credit to the 2020 versions. They seem to be made lazily from the same source file as 2011, only cropped and colored slightly differently. In case of the TPM, the picture barely has any new detail if at all:

https://ultrahd.highdefdigest.com/82130/starwarsepisodeithephantommenace4kultrahdbluray.html

OT did receive an update in resolution but even those films don’t seem to have the color range of real UHD, I think it’s safe to assume the same of the prequels:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGZmMjPJiAk

So you get (almost?) no improvements but less picture with the 2020 cropping.

What programs and settings did you use to fix all of those continuity errors? Is it possible for me to replicate them on my own?

All my fixes are done with the Adobe programs, so if you have Premiere, Photoshop and After Effects you could replicate them with a lot of time and patience.

DarthTzetzo said:

Your edit is great, especially the extended version of the Duel of Fates with BTS footage. And could I ask you to send me the fixed shots of Obi-Wan on Naboo from above, but in their full length without cutting Jar Jar moments, if you have them, please?
😀

The problem here is that I cut the footage first and then added the effects to not make any extra work. The automatic tracking of the new braid was not good enough and I had to manually do corrections frame by frame. Even if I would have the whole shot of the speech done, in the next shot (“This way, hurry!”) the braid is also on his back and I cut that shot completely. 😄

The other shots in the post above are complete though. Because of KK650’s source file, my continuity fixes would look little different from the rest of the footage though, if the basic bluray was used as the source elsewhere.

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#1485011
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The Phantom Menace - Improved Edition (10 years on the forum edit) (Released)
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I was supposed to write this last post about the edit changes many months ago but other things came up so here I go…

CONTINUITY

There are many shots altered subtly or more noticeably to improve the continuity of the movie. One of these scenes is the resque of the queen at the beginning of the movie. The lighting of the scene of droids taking the queen’s party to the camps changes from shot to shot. Some of the shifting of the shadows can be waved off as the convoy just taking some turns around the corners off screen. But there are two shots back to back that have totally different lighting… A dawnish looking shot on the balcony, where the jedi are drawing their saber hilts out just before jumping down and the next shot of the convoy with completely overcast weather. When the jedi actually jump down, the shot has again dawnish lighting with orange sunlight hitting the top parts of buildings in the background. So I added that dawnish lighting to the overcast shot to mix better with the shot preceding and following it.

convoy

To previous shot I also added an effect of it getting cloudy to match the lighting to the following shot (some tedious masking needed to be done for both shots):

balcony

There is a closeup of Shmi looking at her view screen during the podrace. The problem is the screen looks totally different in that shot compared to the rest of the shots with her holding that screen. So I added a photoshopped element to the closeup with the side holding handles and other more subtle details to make it match.

screen

Obi-Wan’s braid

I really wish that they had a ”Jedi braid continuity person” on set at all times because Obi-Wan’s padawan braid keeps changing sides. The most famous shots must be on Tatooine desert. I guess they just attached it to the wrong side on the day of filming and nobody noticed. With the shot from the front I had to build a new part of the tunic and a new part of the neck for him to cover the braid up. I also had to have a partly new background with a moving Eopie no less AND add a new braid to the right side. I decided that it rests on his backside and is mostly hidden though, to give myself some slack.

braid, desert 1

braid, desert2

In Otoh gunga the whole Obi was flipped, maybe on purpose to look in the same general direction as Jar Jar. So I flipped him back and changed Jar Jar’s eyeline a little bit to match his instead of the other way around.

braid otoh gunga

There is also the ”If they finds us, they will crush us” scare speech to Jar Jar where the braid is on his back side and twitches visible during his speech. The braid doesn’t match the previous shots though so I wanted to fix it. This was another really brutal amount of work, because I had to replace parts of his head, tunic and background and make a new braid and it’s shadow. Techniques used were some photoshop layers here to cover things up, some ebysynth there to automatically generate some frames and an AE rigged animation element for the new braid consisting of many image parts.

braid, forest

The saber fight

During the end saber fight Obi falls to the platform below. However his lightsaber rolls and stops between a lit platform tile and a normal one. It doesn’t match the shot when he jumps back on the platform since there the saber is neatly between two lit tiles. Also the tile pattern changes between shots. So I decided to make those shots match better.

Obi fall 1

After been done with the previous shot I also noticed that in the latter shot I had to flip the saber to face the other way to match the new saber rolling on the surface in the previous shot. The saber is briefly off screen when Obi picks it up so you have to just suspend your belief that he flipped it to face the right way as he was picking it up. In hindsight it could have been easier to just make the saber in the second shot match the first shot. 😅

Obi fall 2

When we come back to the reactor room fight after the Queen’s vertical zip lining, there is a frustrating cut in the middle of the fight. We start with a stylish vertical pan shot, but then the movie cut’s straight to closeups of the jedi swinging their sabers at Maul. In the next shot the fighters are suddenly right in front of the beam. So there is a missing footage of them moving to the front of it. You can see the missing fight choreography in the DVD behind the scenes documents. It’s puzzling why they even cut only about 4 seconds of the fight and created this continuity error. I mean if it’s because of the running time, surely there would have been plenty of some other less exciting seconds to cut in the movie. Anyway…

orig. pillar fight

In the BTS footage you can see the crew filming the fight so it’s not exactly footage meant for the film. It’s handheld and I also don’t know what camera they used to film it but I decided to try if I could finish the effects in it. I again used the Topaz video upscaler and run the footage through it. I then ran it through AE’s stabilising algorithm to get a more stable picture. I decided it was good enough upscaled to try to add the effects. The upscaling had some side effects: check out Qui Gon’s nightmarish face. So some of his face had to also be replaced from footage elsewhere.

upscaled bts footage

I brought in Photoshop- and footage elements I borrowed from other shots. I had to recreate the platform in this first shot because the crew was blocking some of it and my upscale didn’t work on its rectangular shapes that well. I also needed to create a layer for the beam’s glow and place it behind the beam footage. I was too lazy to learn any new techniques at this point so I just used the same kind of method I used for the lightsabers. I had to make a mask in the new layers for every character to get them to show on top of them and to get the beam glow to wrap around them. Also some glow and shadows were added to the platform. New elements are all in HD and only the fighters themselves are upscales. The first shot is only 2 seconds long and the glow of the beam that they fight in front of hides the lower quality footage of the fighters quite well during that time.

pillar fight comparison 1

I also ran this second shot through the AE’s stabilising algorithm after the upscale. Twice was needed this time but it gave it a nice slight zoom out effect. This time I could leave in the original platform, but for the first frames of Obi entering the shot I had to build him some legs in Photoshop, because the dolly of the crew was blocking the view of them. Otherwise the process was kind of the same though I manipulated the color of the fighters a little bit, taking out the blue haze that was bleeding onto them form bg bluescreen. This is only one second long shot and I think it works fine as well.

pillar fight comparison 2

The score and sound effects had to be extended for the scene’s new length. For the new shots I recycled some lightsaber sounds from elsewhere and added the original music. I isolated the fighting sounds from the next shots of the jedi swinging at Maul and put in some Duel of the fates- beats from the end credits. This way the original score rhythm already returns before Maul kicks Obi off the ledge.

Now with the two finished shots from BTS footage, the fight does not have such a clear continuity problem and it flows a lot better:

final pillar fight

At the very end of the fighting, Maul force pushes Obi with his left hand now as he is holding his saber on his right hand in the wide shot after it. Also some saber color and braid position fixing applied.

force push

Oh and Maul gets a facelift for his shot of tumbling down in the reactor pit. 😉

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#1484994
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Community Focus Thread 1: The Phantom Menace
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Hey it’s great to have this thread to collectively try new things. This could produce some great new shots for future edits. And all the new helpful tech like AI speech softwares… my oh my. 😛

About the idea of Qui Gon speaking to Anakin through the Force while still alive (some pages back): While the idea is pretty well executed in the test video, I always thought that the one ability the Jedi can harness only in the force afterlife is giving wisdom straight to the pupils mind. For me, that’s one of the main points why Obi sacrificed himself in Ep. IV as he was getting old for the ”living battles”. I mean, what is the benefit of the sacrifice otherwise?

I’m interested about the ideas of reshuffling the beginning, from the effects point of view. Ships and escape pods are probably the best way to start practising 3D modelling since they have very few moving parts. Does anyone know which is better for creating cinemating objects and environments now, Blender or Unreal engine 5? And which is easier to learn from scratch?

And very cool to get a mention in the first post.😉

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#1479391
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Batman (1989) - Color Correction and Original Theatrical Audio Sync (Possible project)
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Hey Venny, you might want to check this out, some group called Double ‘O’ Productions has done the CC and audio fix plus a lot of subtle effects work to fix some continuity problems:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vAzeRnOUF4

Haven’t seen their version yet, but their work does seem impressive in the youtube video.

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#1477318
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The Phantom Menace - Improved Edition (10 years on the forum edit) (Released)
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benroberts79 said:

Could i please grab a link - i’d love to check this version out. On a real TPM fan-edit binge at the moment trying to see what is the one that works well for me.

Thanks 😃

You re a brave one watching TPM many times in a row. 😉 I sent you a PM. My edit is guaranteed to have a few shots that aren’t found on any other edit to keep it a little more fresh!

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#1477315
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The Phantom Menace - Improved Edition (10 years on the forum edit) (Released)
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CMMAP said:

I find the community month focus quiet interesting to gather further ideas 😃
Thanks to eddie
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Community-Focus-Month-1-The-Phantom-Menace/id/92079/page/1

Yeah, I checked the thread out, very interesting! And funny that after we talked about it, we now have a collaborative effort for the movie. Maybe Alaskansandman’s ideas can be done now!

Would you mind muxing in a AC3 track with 640 kb/s?

The audio is mixed as 640 kb/s but Premiere cs6 only gives you the output option of ACC when working from AC3. I would be interested in getting tips how to convert it to AC3 of higher quality if someone knows.

  • the lights of naboo are neat, but as we see the ship approaching closer to the planet (second cockpit shot), they are gone.

I checked this again. I have modified the shot to have a brighter planet so leaving out the city lights was a decision I made because the ship moves quite a lot in relation to the planet. So you could just think the previously seen lights are off screen. The real reason being that adding the lights was difficult to track and time consuming. But I might try to add them for a future update to get the shots more consistent.

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#1469172
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Max's Prequel Edits (a WIP)
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Anakin Starkiller said:

Mrebo said:

I did this quick edit just to see the gag but I think it’s too jokey. I’m on the fence whether to keep that single Jar Jar moment at all, in its proper place, but definitely cutting the first tongue shot. I go between not liking the antics and thinking a Gungan creature is not theoretically a bad idea that can work if toned down.

https://streamable.com/mhwxv4

Okay that is brilliant.

I agree, that is a great edit. 😃 I don’t think it’s too much humour for the scene and shows that even Qui-Gon is annoyed with Jar Jar.

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#1469166
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The Phantom Menace - Improved Edition (10 years on the forum edit) (Released)
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CMMAP said:

So, i watched it today. Overall i grew fond of it. The technical changes are impressive.
I took some notes while watching:

  • video quality various often (in theatrical scenes ), especially on tatooine and deleted scenes pop out (maybe use topaz AI again, if you have the paid version?)

This is a problem of the source so probably not all shots can be fixed. I only have a 50" screen and I think it looks OK there but difference in quality might be more noticeable for larger ones.

  • did you do something to the audo stream? the center channel with the dialogue is quite low-keyed. Overall the audio seamed to be quieter than usual, because i had to ramp up my volume by +16. When i switched to another movie had to turn it down again by -16.

I didn’t turn down audio on any channels. Off source it’s only in ACC format so it might not have the ooph of larger file size tracks.

  • the lights of naboo are neat, but as we see approaching the ship closer to the planet (second cockpit shot), they are gone.

Damn, you are right! I can’t believe I missed it! 😦 Welp, I guess I have to do version 2.

  • the beginning with the ambassador (jedi): place ship explosion after gas entering room where jedi sit. My suggestion even though i know you had written “supposedly” the jedi didn´t notice, i found myself questioning while watching “why do the jedi sit there and we didn´t even see them flinch an eye as the ship in the hangar with its people got blown up?”

This is a small problem created by the editing of the scene but there is no footage to make the jedi react more subtly to explosion. So they are just not “showing their hand” yet.

  • force jump to escape the droidika, nice idea (but contradictory to later when obi-wan is running towards maul and qui-gon, why isn´t he using it there). So maybe get rid of it?

This is kind of needed to end the scene. The force speed is maybe dangerous to use in environment of big vertical drops? Doesn’t bother me too much.

  • 15:00 journey underwater to naboo, i think it´s not necessary. It can be cut completly

I know the scene is unpopular, but it’s the Random Monster of the Movie- scene. Personal preference thing.

  • 29:30 why is anakin suddenly with them after qui-gon and padme left wattos place?

I mean to imply that he ran into them while going home from work. It kind of happens the same in original too.

  • Also during the visit subtitles for watto and anakin talking would be nice
  • 41:52 sebulba and anakin subtitles would be nice, too

I thought I muxed the subtitles in, are you sure they were on?

  • 44:12 jar jar talks, no sound, frame that shouldn´t be there?

He’s meant to be sighing silently in relief. Not the best looking shot I know, but the footage of him being subtle is very limited. 😄

  • 1:18:23 gangun subtitles, would be nice also
    Official subtitles don’t include gunguns, so I didn’t add them either.

Thanks for the feedback, this is good info. I see what I can do and might publish V2 at some point.

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#1469027
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The Phantom Menace - Improved Edition (10 years on the forum edit) (Released)
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Modified and added shots:

There are many small and bigger modified shots in this edit to fit the goals of the edit, my personal preferences or to fix errors left in the original footage.

I removed the cord that is visible on two shots of the Queen at the window. The shost are also made sharper.

Queen

Here Sidious’ face is made more obscured. This was done until his balcony scene with Maul where the light hits his face in a way it’s not possible to cover.

Sidious

As mentioned before, the Hyper drive- display is changed to more readable, simple one.

HUD

I wanted to cut out C-3PO so I had to do some removals in some shots. In second one I had to get rid of Jar Jar as a bonus. 😎 Also I don’t know how R2 was able to stay standing in the original, considering how his legs are.

3PO 1
3PO 2

During the pod race grid sequences, there are many shots in the official bluray (added among the theatrical shots) that are out of focus and don’t look good because of that. I cut the worse ones and improved the better ones. All the alien racer intro shots are modified to look sharper. Some shots are replaced with bryantmh’s upscaled DVD shots which are a little bit zoomed in comparison to bluray version and actually have more detail, especially when I added After Effects’ Unsharp mask- sharpening effect to them. Shots are also color corrected.

Sebulba
Racers

Also this extended bit of Anakin with his mother looks better with replaced DVD- shot.

Anakin

I added two parts of the DVD’s extended race sequence where Sebulba uses fire against his competitors. These were sharpened and color corrected but also the soundtrack had to be built to 5.1 from stereo.

Sebulba fire

I wanted to add a deleted scene of destroying the probe droid, because it explains them running from Mos Espa. In my edit, the scene of probe droid looking for the protagonists (first image) doesn’t happen before the race, but after Anakin leaves his mother. The deleted scene happens right after this. However the wide shot below of the Qui-Qon and Anakin walking (second image) is not quality wise up to bar with the theatrical similar shots. These deleted scenes can only go so far, despite bryantmh’s excellent upscaling (close up shots work better). So I set out to make a new shot out of elements of footage that I had already cut. It replaces this walking shot. The result is 2 second shot of probe droid closing in on them and I think it turned out pretty good.

Probe droid

The first threeway lightsaber fight in the hangar is extended. There are shots on DVD bonus materials of the lightsaber fight that are not in the theatrical cut. Fortunately Topaz video upscaler turned out to be easy to use. With a couple of upscale passes, sharpening, color correcting, lightsaber effects and some fine tuning, the shots look good enough to add, they are fast paced (after partly speed up) so it hides the slight lower quality quite well. Also the soundtrack is made from scratch, borrowing bits from elsewhere.

Extended fight

Also a lot of small tweaks like changing the ship explosion in the first scene to more orange from pink/purple, adding a hot glow to Maul’s cut saber hilt, and tweaking this tank shot by lowering the contrast of the tanks and adding some noise to blend them better to environment:

https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/20965

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#1467802
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The Phantom Menace - Improved Edition (10 years on the forum edit) (Released)
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CMMAP said:

Did or do you take inspiration from Sandman‘s prequel revisited concepts?
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Prequel-Trilogy-Revised-concept-trailers-released-WIP/id/70831

Would love it very much, if someone able could continue his amazing work.
Nevertheless, you did great edits, from what we can read and see in this thread. Keep it up 😃

Yes I was a fan of that project and was following it! Shame it has apparently fallen through. AlaskanSandman actually has a credit in my end credits, although I did not mention him in the post.

His project gave me ideas for my edit, like Naboo and Tatooine really needing city lights.:

Naboo 1

Naboo 2

Tatooine

This shot is aped straight from him:

Ships

His TPM was going to be TPM on steroids, mine is more like TPM on strong vitamins compared to that.😄 His ideas were very ambitious with 3D rendered new shot and I’m not sure who would have the skills and time to finish all he planned. It would take a long time too. Maybe some kind of group effort would work.

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#1467276
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The Phantom Menace - Improved Edition (10 years on the forum edit) (Released)
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Lightsabers:

As I mentioned in the first post, something happened when they produced the home version of the film. As a result the color highlight are washed out in the more darker scenes, effecting most notably the lightsabers but also making planet glows dim. I dug up and checked my TPM VHS, and the lightsaber glows seem little brighter there but on DVD and Blu-ray the brightness has been reduced. Other problems are twisted colors and size of the blade among others. One of my biggest priorities was fixing the lightsabers in the most erroneous shots, and they were plenty.

So here are some examples:

Below are samples of dim saber blades that also sometimes slanted the color to dark green with Qui Gon’s blade and to purple with Obi- Wan’s.

Obi & Qui Gon

Sometimes the blade core was very thin and dim.

Obi

Other times the glow was there but the core and part of the glow was too dark.

Obi

Qui Gon’s sabre in the forest has always looked too stumpy relative to his hands.

Forest

In the beginning of the end battle blades lack length and glow.

Outside battle

When the lightsaber fight moves to ”reactor beam area”, the errors are really bad. On the top left screenshot you can see through the blades and Maul’s blade is faint pinkish grey. I also added brightness to background beam pillars.

3-way fight

On some rare occasions you can see the physical probe blade in the shot, that probably isn’t lined up anymore after all the clashing with the other actor’s blade.

Maul- Obi 1

Also in the Obi vs Maul fight, the tips of the blades are missing most of their color and luminescence.

Maul- Obi 2

I also added holes to the hilts where the blades are coming out and a little lens flare effect to the saber ignitions. Most of the shots were done with vanilla After Effects, drawing a mask around the blades and adding new glows. I found about saber plugin later that I used mostly to enhancements, like adding core flicker to some shots. Manual masking made it possible to make the blade shapes very close to originals though, only bring back the lost core brightness and glow. Saber plugin was the main method used in only two shots. I also added a slight distortion to the blades when Obi- Wan and Maul clash them before Maul pushes him to hang on the ledge. Also sharpened and lit Obi’s face a little.

Maul- Obi 3

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#1467125
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The Hobbit (M4 Book Edit) (Released)
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Got around to watch this and it was really good and professional. Some quick thoughts:

-Fat was trimmed in great places, no unnecessary romance, questionable humor with the town major and his advisor and no illogical references to LotR characters.

-I noticed some quite fast cuts from a character saying something and then the next scene beginning, could have used a few seconds of breathing time. But maybe there wasn’t any footage for it until the next character said something.

-Thorin turning back from the madness was well done, no overdone slow motion dwelling in the dungeons first. Dwalin’s talk with him is the last push needed for him to come back.

-The cut from Thorin saying they are gonna kill Azog to them being in the town ruins was little quick. Is seems they got there in an instant. Maybe could have used some shots of starting to ride towards the town. Their fight was cut great however, being more dynamic now and not bloated.

-The good build up scene between Bilbo and Smaug is kept, but the overlong battle between him and the dwarfs is cut, which is good cause it doesn’t really advance the plot.

-Scenes leading to Fili’s death are cut quite quick, when the scenes between are cut.

-Funeral of the dwarfs is included which is great! It was weird that it was cut in theatrical and you were felt wondering about the fate of the arkenstone.

-I have not seen other Hobbit edits and don’t know how this compares to them but this beats my official Blu rays easily. No reason to watch them now. Now the Hobbit is just one (long) movie and LotR are three, just like the books.

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#1465964
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The Phantom Menace - Improved Edition (10 years on the forum edit) (Released)
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Poster

Sources:
-kk650’s regraded bluray
-bryantmh’s upscaled deleted scenes
-own upscaled footage from my dvd

Well, this edit has been a long time coming. I joined the forum a little over 10 years ago, on August 2011 and actually tried to edit this movie already the next year (first Premiere edit file for this movie is from June 2012). I did finish the edit back then but it did not turn out so great with the skills I had back then, especially the sound edits were pretty crude. So I never published it or actually even watched it myself, since I was trying to edit all prequels first. I got stuck at Ep 3 though, since I could not get some effects to work that I was planning to do.

So after honing my skills with other edits I decided to give this a new try. I have always liked how The Phantom Menace blew up the scale and grandeur of the world of Star Wars movies and despite the clunky dialog (that I’m used to over the years) I think it has a fairly good adventure/action movie buried underneath all the unnecessary scenes and bad humor. I thought this would be pretty fast project, since my changes to plot points would not require any effects work, I was only planning to fix this shot of Obi’s saber:

Dim Saber

How wrong I was…

The editing part for this new version was mostly done by fall of 2019, when I had to take a half year break. However, I realized after watching this video from CorridorCrew (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbAV4dO8gvM), that the lightsaber fight had many other issues with the sabers. Also in the beginning of the movie for some reason the colors have had their highlights washed out witch makes the planet of Naboo and the sabers very dim. So I set out to fix the issues, and the project ballooned to fix all kinds of continuity issues and to include some ideas I found on this forum. The result must be one of the most comprehensive edits of this movie (IISSM), that has been finished (there has been more ambitious efforts but I think they have fizzled out).

The edit uses the the Kk650’s regraded bluray version as a source. With it’s color correction and slight added grain, I think it’s the best looking source to use. It beats even the 4K version, since the ”so called” 4K versions of the prequels used the same scan of the movie than blurays and don’t have any added detail. See for yourself below:

https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/20309 (Look at the furry part of the queen’s outfit)

Of course the brightness is different too and it affects how details pop up.

Here is the trailer for the edit:

Trailer

Password: tpm

Every shot in that trailer (except the opening logos) has some kind of visual change from slight sharpening of the picture to almost all elements in the footage replaced. Most changes are very small, and you have to know what to look for. 😄

Credit goes to kk650’s color correction most of all but also to Jackpumpkinhead for his Crawl creator and bryantmh for upscaled deleted scenes. These helped this project to finish faster.

Major goals of the edit:

Less politics: -Take out political aspect of the invasion until Coruscant scenes. References to politics are reduced from Neimoidian and Sidious’ dialog to make the plot more exiting and streamlined. This also helps conceal Sidious’ identity. The Trade Federation is now The Federation of Dissenting Planets in this edit and has nothing to do with taxation. The organisation’s full name is mentioned in the crawl but referred as ”Federation” in dialogue. Their motivations are left more vague.

More mysterious Sidious: Make connection between Sidious and Palpatine less obvious. I wanted to do this, but of course this doesn’t matter so much if you’ve seen the original version (like 99,99% of people =). Sidious’ appearances have been approximately cut in half throughout the movie to keep him more mysterious. All mentions about connections to senate have been removed and his voice has been lowered to not make a connection to Palpatine. His face is more concealed to also help with this until the balcony scene with Maul, where his face was not possible to hide because of how light hits his face.

No slave subplot: No mention of Anakin and his mother being slaves. This has to be the most contrived plot points in the movie, and it hardly plays a part in later prequels. Them being poor and not able to escape the planet would be enough. They just both have to work for Watto to make ends meet. The slave subplot also creates a huge problem in the next movie, where 10 years later Jedi apparently STILL have done nothing to free Shmi and relocate her to a nicer environment. Plus the exploding tracker in body- thing. Lazy writing much? So this edit pretends that the Jedi are just tight on funds right now and Shmi has to stay behind because they can only afford to locate Anakin to Coruscant. Shmi is also kinda used to her life on Tatooine. Not perfect but it’s better than the original. This change took the most of the editing time, since the dinner scene and Anakin’s new future- discussion had to work without the slave angle.

No second bet: This also means there is no second bet. This takes out needles complications of the original plot about getting out of Tatooine. Streamlining this part of the movie makes the movie roll much more smoothly, since in the original the momentum stops badly during Tatooine scenes. This location is at this point the most overused in all of SW, IMO. Now they meet Anakin, come up with the bet to get the parts, race and then they are out of there.

Less universe shrinkage: Universe shrinkage is avoided by removing unnecessary fan service. This includes C-3PO and Jabba, which are both removed from the movie completely. I always strongly disliked Anakin building 3PO and the droid has nothing to do in the movie anyway. He was put there purely for the fans but it doesn’t serve the story. You can see ”him” in some of the shots during and after the podrace, but now he is just a random droid provided to Anakin for the race. All the characters knowing each other and popping up in the original versions makes this fictional world of supposedly tens of thousands of systems seem very small.

No mention of the rule of two Sith: This is taken out because I tried to make this movie match the original trilogy better. If there is a rule of two, surely the emperor and Vader are fully aware that they are trying to betray each other by trying to convert Luke.

Reducing lameness and stupidity: I tried to get rid of lame turns and stupidity that made me cringe every time I watched the movie. What irritates is of course personal and some of the things that others find irritating might be left in. Jar Jar is (obviously) minimized. He has few lines here and there so he doesn’t become completely mute during the middle of the movie, but I tried to left in only the least irritating sentences and sounds he makes. His voice is made slightly deeper, but it’s actually hard to tell. Could not change it too much without it getting distorted.

Deal breakers:

There might be some ”deal breaker” parts for some viewers. These may tell you this edit is not for you and you save some time and trouble. 😉:

The two headed podrace announcer: Still in there. I think we need announcer in the race and I didn’t bother to remove the announcer shots since I was already editing around Jar Jar- antics. He doesn’t bother me so much.

Anakin is still refered as the chosen one: (but not too old to start the training) This explains why Qui-Gon wanted to train him although he was just a boy. This edit does not imply that younglings have to start training when they are tree years old or something. This makes Jedi more of a humanly organization, not taking children away from their parents so early. Also the chosen one- angle brings some dramatic weight to the later movies.

End celebration is still there: I like it (great score) and I think this movie needs a happy party at the end, since the next ones don’t have them.

Edit contains:

-Hundreds of cuts
-Tens of added slight sharpening effects to blurry shots
-About 75 Audition- audio edits
-About 170 After Effect- shots, mostly saber fixes, about 90% redone.
-Added probe droid deleted scene, and multiple shorter shots from upscaled dvd footage.

I spent:

-Countless and countless hours honing the effects shots
-Countless hours thinking what I’m doing with my life…

List of some more detailed changes:

-The Jedi are mentioned by name in the crawl because otherwise Qui-Gon’s name is mentioned first time on Tatooine, way into the movie.

-Planets are made brighter and Naboo and Tatooine have added city lights(Had to do a very time consuming manual tracking for the added layer for these).

-First action scene is cut so that the Jedi supposedly don’t sense the explosion or notice the gas being pumped into the room. That way we are introduced to the lightsabers with the shot of their glow shining through the gas and the Jedi are not so jumpy, lighting the swords up from the smallest sensation of ”something is wrong”.

-Obi-wan and Qui-Gon go down to the planet to help Naboo, not warn them, since they are going down there with invading ships.

-Otoh Gunga is cut to be more mature scene and no talk about going through the planet’s core. The impression is that the ships landed near Theed, not on the other side of the planet for no reason. Jar Jar is just saved by Qui-Gon from punishment. Qui-Gon doesn’t tell Obi-Wan that they need him for navigation, since Jar Jar just goes batshit crazy in sub and does zero navigation (in the original cut). Submarine sequence is now cut around the encounter with Sando Aqua monster, which I like (random monster of the movie) and Jar Jar antics are obviously minimized.

-The ”Hyperdrive monitor” is changed from busy 3D monitor to more simpler easy to read at glance- monitor (in the trailer). The original monitor was way too advanced looking and unpractical to read at glance.

-Watto isn’t affected by the mind trick simply because he is not weak minded enough, no toydarian bulls**t needed.

-I first had Anakin starting the Naboo fighter without his dialogue but you can see his mouth moving, so I added back part of the lines. He wonders where the trigger is but then finds it right away. He catches on pretty quick you know…😄 Also Anakin purposefully participates in the space battle but is just struggling with the fighter controls.

-Jar Jar is not made general, he is just participating (quite quietly) in the battle as one of the soldiers.

Lastly:

This edit has given me a goal to finish and always something to do during these corona times when I have spent a lot of time home. It became my passion project but also my obsession, since I was putting off some real life projects because of it. Many times I wondered if this movie is worth the trouble, but I was already too far. 😄 I came up with new things to fix or add pretty late in the process too. My first deadline for this was 4th of May I think, then it was at the end of August, then halfway of October, then Christmas, then New Year… But now it’s done, and I try to have a break from this stuff and get more done in the real world.

Original run time: 2 h 16min
New run time : 1h 44min ( 1h 50m with credits)
Format: MKV (10,3G), MP4 video and ACC 5.1 audio, subtitles and chapters

Thanks for reading and have a good year ahead. If someone is interested, just ask me a link via PM. I would also appreciate feedback , especially if you spot any glaring errors so I can fix them.


My other edits:

Avengers: Age of Ultron – Improved Edition : https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Avengers-Age-of-Ultron-Improved-Edition/id/65907

Prometheus - Improved edition: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Prometheus-Improved-edition-Released/id/68622

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 - Improved-Edition: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-Vol-2-Improved-Edition-Released/id/73451

Iron Man 3 - Cut and Chromed Edition: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Iron-Man-3-Cut-and-Chromed-Edition-Released/id/87734

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That extended ROTJ duel footage would be so cool if it’s possible to bring close to the quality of the theatrical footage! The duel has always felt very short, although I like the rhythm it’s cut to other action in the end of the movie.

What is your source for it? I found The Evolution of The Lightsaber Duel- documentrary on Vimeo. One of the problems is that the doc footage seems to be interlaced, meaning the footage has horizontal black lines. It doesn’t look interlaced on the drive link you posted though… Maybe there is some kind of AI aided software that can turn interlaced to progressive footage.

Also for the bigger detail n footage, maybe ask bryantmh for help, he did an awesome job on Prequel deleted scene AI upscales:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/ai-upscaling-of-deleted-scenes-and-other-content-released/id/75020/page/1

If you still have problem with masking using the Saber- plugin, try making Adjustment layers and putting the effect on that? I have used the Saber- plugin but only to punch up some shots in the Phantom Menace- lightsaber fight. The problem is that the plugin has no way to make saber’s blade tip pointy. It just looks that the blade has been cut of from the top. Or maybe I just haven’t found all the plugin settings… The better result may be to hand animate the tip glow on sabers and do the most of work with Saber- plugin.

Anyway, very cool project! I would like to have a link to ANH please!