Then we have to GET people to care. I’m never giving up.
Then we have to GET people to care. I’m never giving up.
Not really I think, but they just don’t care like 95% of the world. The OOT has zero relevance for them financially, and as others pointed out Disney is already known for being revisionist. So, the combination of a lack of commitment to preserving classic films in their original form, Lucas’ desire to suppress them, and a diminishing demand for the original versions, makes it highly unlikely they will ever be released again.
Hit the nail on the head. Physical media is gasping out its dying breath. We’ve reached a point where most consumers don’t realize there’re now greater than five distinct versions of this film, and even among those who are aware, the versions they can stream for “free” on Disney+ are considered “good enough.”
We are a niche within a niche. 15 years ago during the height of the DVD boom a release of the OOT could have been a big deal, but not so much now. From a cynical corporate bottom line perspective, any money there’d be in releasing the original films on UHD discs isn’t enough to be worth losing whatever benefits Disney gets from staying in Lucas’s good graces. And yeah, I do believe that a lot of the leadership at Lucasfilm feels a strong personal sense of loyalty to the guy and aren’t in any hurry to betray that.
Also, if we’re being fully frank here, any official release of the films is unlikely to be as faithful to the original as the 4K77 project, and if that particular preservation’s not your jam there are, like, half a dozen others to choose from. It’d be nice to have a widely available official release, but too few people care, and for those of us who do, we’ve got options. Maybe things might be different after Lucas is gone, but I for one am not hoping for that any time soon, so for now I’m content with excellent fan preservations and an official version that – though it still contains the unsavory alterations – looks better than basically any other official release to date.
I think I remember it being said that this is set about five years after Return of the Jedi, so about four years after Jakku. Plenty of time for word to get out.
I think it’s because if they change any of the Special Edition changes, then they’d have to change/rewrite parts of the current Star Wars canon too.
Back when his Twitter was still public, Pablo Hidalgo addressed the issue of the Special Editions as they relate to canon a few times. Basically, the way the Story Group sees it, all that matters for “canon” (i.e., what other storytellers are beholden to) is that Han and Greedo met in the cantina and Greedo died. The exact specifics of who shot first don’t really matter, at least from a canon perspective.
I also get the impression that a lot of folks at Lucasfilm would love to see the original versions released, but they don’t want to thumb their noses at Lucas’s clearly and repeatedly stated desire to have the revised versions be the only ones widely available.
Scientist working with Werner Herzog is in some way connected to Kamino. Wild, probably wrong theory time: were the remnants of the Empire (precursor to the First Order) trying to clone Palpatine? Perhaps they needed to harvest midi-chlorians from another source?
Or maybe the yadpole itself is a clone (though, of course, I prefer to think Yoda and Yaddle got it on, and that’s why Yaddle left the council).
Another thing worth noting: the Warner Bros. logo was dropped from The Clone Wars movie, though they’re still using the version of the Lucasfilm logo that was on the original release.
I feel like it’s important to agree on some terminology here.
I submit for your consideration: yadpole.
I can’t confirm this personally, but I’ve seen a couple people mention that on Pablo Hidalgo’s now private Twitter, he said the latest Greedo change did come from George Lucas himself when they started work on the 4K restoration.
Grain of salt, of course, but that makes more sense than LFL/Disney deciding to arbitrarily make one more weird change without his input.
Not sure if this has already been discussed elsewhere, but the first six movies open with the '94 version of the 20th Century Fox title and the 2015 version of the Lucasfilm logo, but otherwise seem identical to the 2011 release.
EDIT: ChainsawAsh beat me to it.
Took a stab at making a set of Blu-ray slipcovers for all eight saga films. I decided to use the sequel trilogy title aesthetic (Serif Gothic) to have a consistent look on the spines, while using the original title treatments and teaser poster artwork on the cover. I haven’t gotten around to designing a back cover yet, but here’s what I’ve got so far:
And here’s The Rise of Skywalker to round out the set.
Along with the complete set of spines.
I can’t imagine they got McDiarmid to redub (and match the animated lip sync) on six seasons of The Clone Wars. Plus, with how highly Dave Filoni has spoken of the late Ian Abercrombie in the role, I don’t believe he’d go along with erasing that performance.
As far as changes go, this was a pretty “easy” one to make. It’s a single scene, there’s no lip sync to match, and they can even go get Witwer’s blessing if they felt so inclined. It also makes it match up better with Palpatine’s later appearance in Season Four. I don’t love it, but I also understand the inclination to do this.
EDIT: What I could see, though, is them getting McDiarmid to voice Palpatine for the upcoming final batch of Clone Wars episodes coming to Disney+. If they already got him in the booth for that, it’d be easy enough to have him read this one scene from Rebels.
They’ve redubbed the Emperor with Ian McDiarmid for The Siege of Lothal
Huh. Presumably this is for Disney+?
Obviously no one sounds as much like Ian McDiarmid as Ian McDiarmid, but I think I actually prefer Witwer’s line delivery.
Anyway, chalk one more up in the pro column for physical media. Glad I picked up Rebels on Blu. Frustrating that we’re still dealing with Star Wars tinkering even post-Lucas.
Actually, it is quite the opposite for me. I didn’t like the movie after the first viewing, but I began to understand what GL tried (and I began to appreciate it) after repeat viewings and a few days of reflection.
Time has been kind to The Phantom Menace, at least compared to the other two prequel movies. I still don’t love it, but I appreciate it way more than I used to. It feels the most like a work of sincere (if sometimes misguided) passion and the higher ratio of practical effects worth and film-based photography means it looks substantially better than its peers in that trilogy (just don’t watch the blu-ray version that has been scrubbed of all texture).
I think that as said above the distinct lack of energy and vibrancy is a major problem. The thought of going to a park which is teeming with life/activity/droids/scum and villainy like a real spaceport is MUCH more like it.
While I fundamentally disagree on the issue of content as it relates to the sequel trilogy, the lack of energy is a fair criticism, and unfortunately comes down to a lot of eleventh hour budget cuts imposed by the current president of Disney Parks. There were plans for autonomous roaming droids, stunt shows, and more characters and creatures populating the land, but Bob Chapek – who has quickly gained a reputation as something of a miser – pulled the ripcord and refused to hire the performers necessary to fill these roles.
The most frustrating thing is that the infrastructure is all there in plain sight in the land, it’s just not being used. There are stages and performance spaces around just about every corner of the outpost, there are props and set pieces placed conspicuously close to doorways that hide the beacons that would have told the droids areas to avoid. The grand opening press event in California featured one of the stunt shows that has yet to materialize for the general public, and similarly the opening in Florida featured a full Hondo Ohnaka walk-around character costume that – again – has not shown up since then. There’s all of this stuff that they spent the time and money to develop and have basically ready to go, but none of it’s online because the guy holding the purse strings is too cheap to hire performers.
Biggs Audio Dynamite said:
I imagine it will be super expensive, yet worth it if you have that kind of money!
There’s a report going around quoting $3,300 for the full three-day experience for a single occupancy cabin or $7,200 for a cabin with five passengers. Keep in mind, though, that even if these reports are accurate to what’s currently being discussed (dubious), we’re at least a year and probably a recession away from this thing opening. Nothing is set in stone yet.
Also worth noting is, despite being commonly referred to as a hotel, this will be more like “what if Sleep No More was on a cruise ship?”, so expect pricing closer to a cruise than a typical hotel.
Now that we’ve made it through the prequels and Solo, I’m back in cartoon mode until (checks calendar) October. I know that doesn’t carry as much interest as the films do around here, but I thought I’d share my piece on Star Wars Rebels’ first season either way.
After Lucas left, the future of Star Wars was uncertain. Still dealing with the fallout from a decade backlash against the prequels, the series needed a renewed statement of intent. Star Wars Rebels became just that, appealing to nostalgia for the original films while at once working to unite Lucas’s two trilogies into an inseparable whole and lay the ground work for the future of Star Wars stories.
This show is one that means a lot to me, and as such this is probably the most sentimental this series is going to get. Anyway, you can read it here if you’re into that. Enjoy!
Back again with another entry, this time on Solo: A Star Wars Story. This one isn’t the worst Star Wars film, but it’s maybe the most frustrating. A work that is more Easter egg hunt than movie; a tremendously directed film where empty fan service eclipses story and character development.
Read it here.
I’ve really been enjoying this series, but was surprised you didn’t talk about the Opera scene. Isn’t it…decent?
Had to narrow my focus a bit on this one since I was already knocking on the door of 3,000 words just focussing on three major moments from the film. The opera scene is pretty good – one of the better scenes in the movie, certainly. I didn’t get to talk much about Ian McDiarmid, but it’s clear he’s having so much fun, and all the better he’s not buried under a stupid-looking makeup prosthetic at this point. I think the direction of the scene is a bit flat (like nearly all of the rest of the movie), but since the scene is carried by McDiarmid monologuing, it generally works.
I’ve long thought AOTC was the worst, but YMMV. 😉
They’re both pretty bad, but there are at least entire sequences I like in Clones. Sequences! There are barely entire scenes I like in Sith. This is the one that had the most it needed to get right, and it just falls flat at every single turn.
If you’ll indulge me in reviving a dead thread, I’ve finally made it through The Clone Wars and have another entry in this series examining one of the films. I figured more people around these parts might have interest in that.
This time I’m digging into the very worst Star Wars movie: Revenge of the Sith.
Also, if any of you are interested in my series of articles on The Clone Wars, you can find all of those right here.
I too think the asking was more of a formality as I don’t see how there would be any legality binding it to George’s say so since he pretty much signed over everything.
A formality, yes, but I think it’s one they intend to carry forward for the foreseeable future. Lucasfilm doesn’t want to alienate their namesake, and Disney wants to stay on good enough terms with George that he’s willing to, say, come out and give his blessing at the opening of their new theme park land.
Just got out. Program began with Rogue One introduced by John Knoll. Super neat, but that’s not why you’re here.
John Dykstra introduced a 70mm print struck for the UK but never screened (I heard someone say it was ‘81, but the date was never formally stated). It was never screened because the first time it was projected, the print tore, and thus there was about two seconds of pretty major damage right as the Death Star blows up, but otherwise, the print was immaculate. Minimal damage and virtually no fading. “A New Hope” was on the crawl, but otherwise, it’s the original film.
Apparently, after some convincing, Lucas himself signed off on the Academy showing this version of the film. That’s huge, because he has firmly not allowed the original version to be publicly screened since before 1997. What does that mean for future releases? Who can say, but this screening is something that seemed impossible just one week ago.
A YouTube channel called “Cow Missing” recently uploaded a version of the Star Tours workprint footage I’ve never seen before – one that includes the video from the second screen inside the Starspeeder.
Also, they’ve posted the tail end of the pre-show video including the safety spiel.
Apparently this wasn’t just weird shenanigans on Netflix’s part. This was not only authorized by Tarantino, he oversaw the cut himself.
He also talks about wanting to do a longer cut of Django Unchained as well.
No idea when this happened, but Pablo Hidalgo just tweeted about it. The Ewok Adventure movies are now available for digital purchase or rental on Amazon. It’s still just SD, but hey, it’s something.
Caravan of Courage
Battle for Endor