https://vimeo.com/412387620
password:shieldForce Shield concept V1
The real MVP! All your work so far is awesome. I really like the force shield and the ghost aiding Rey in her defeat of Palapatine. However, I’m down for making it more subtle since that seems to be the general feedback. Keep killing it!
So in this hypothetical version, Palpatine is dying, all this time he has been grooming Kylo and Rey, a prophesiced Dyad, to inherit the throne after his death. Palps gives the rundown to Kylo but he knows that there has to be a catch, he plays along but plans to kill him together with Rey. I think the dynamic between Kylo and Palps has to change, Palps will play the act of a weak, harmless old man, like the good old days with Anakin. Make Kylo less hostile, rather more intrigued. I’m working on a mockup that will go something like this:
- At last! My boy.
- Snoke trained you well.
- I killed Snoke.
- I made Snoke. I have been the voice inside your head.
- The first Order was just the beginning, I will give you so much more.
- I have died before, now I don’t have long, I’m weak - more than a clone, less than a man.
- What could you give me ?
- Everything - a new Empire, the might of the final order will soon be ready, It will be yours if you do what I ask.
- Become what your grand father Vader could not! Find the girl, Turn her and bring her before me. Together you will rule the galaxy as emperor and empress. Two that become one. A dyad of the dark-side of the force.
- Who is she ?
- Our blood. (just my crazy headcanon)
Here’s a proof of concept:
https://vimeo.com/411776713-Added in a hint of the “Palpatine’s teachings” track.
-Axed Snoke’s clone, as well as switching around the shots for better fluidity.
-Cut Snoke’s line “you have ever heard”.
-Cut Kylo’s aggression, he’s almost submissive, which in the context of this story makes his plan to kill Palps all the more pronounced.It be cool if someone could replace the vats of Snoke clones with ones of Palapatine instead.
It’s a good idea, but wouldn’t palps have to be naked? I’m getting queasy just thinking about it.
I was thinking close ups of failed cloned Palapatine(s) faces in tanks with red bacta around them. However, I do shutter to think of “The Senate” just letting it all hang out. I guess that is why the novelist of TRoS retconned Palaptine’s “son’s” origin. She couldn’t bring herself to picture the ole prune bumping uglies w/ some slave girl.
In other clone news, I do really think it be cool to replace the Sith Eternal Personnel with OG Jango Clones, but I know it probably be impossible to achieve. I think it would have been an awesome call back to the prequels, to Kylo’s line to Hux in TFA and would have gotten a pop from the audience. Also I think it would have gotten the point across that Palaptine is a clone subtly to the audience without have to come out and say it. One can dream…
Oh I’m sure it could be done with deepfakes, at least for any white males, it’s just I’m little hesitant given how heroic they’re portrayed as in TCW. Don’t wanna go against that.
I mean they did commit Order 66 which eradicated the Jedi Order and toppled the Republic. I think showing them as holdovers of Palapatine’s Sith Fleet in the Unknown Regions would be fitting and help link Palaptine to being a clone himself. Honestly if someone went with this idea, they could replace Snoke with clone of Jango during Kylo’s arrival scene on Exegol as well. I think it be nice if this film had more connective tissue to the prequels since it is suppose to be the end of the Saga.
Leia with a purple lightsaber: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kFbUO3dgxNT1ESg3dzj2SUGcaic8ptqr
Rey with Leia’s purple lightsaber: https://drive.google.com/open?id=18bJX2RE0cdDpi1ODDrCjuGBJCAJQ1-iM
Looks absolutely amazing! It gives the blade such a unique feel and really pops in the atmosphere of Exegol. Also I think Rey using a purple blade like Mace really makes sense canonically with her embracing the dark side and the light for good.
What about something like this for Anakin?
the result is incredible !!! is very good! But don’t you think it’s strange to show a version of Anakin that we’ve never seen?
I mean, it would be logical to use young anakin, or directly to Sebastian shaw …
it is my opinion 😉
As cool as this is, I feel like it would be odd to be watching a marathon of the saga and have either the Shaw or Christensen version of Anakin at the end of ROTJ and then have an amalgamation of the two at the end of TROS. However, if I had a version of this hybrid Anakin in both films I think it be super cool!
So in this hypothetical version, Palpatine is dying, all this time he has been grooming Kylo and Rey, a prophesiced Dyad, to inherit the throne after his death. Palps gives the rundown to Kylo but he knows that there has to be a catch, he plays along but plans to kill him together with Rey. I think the dynamic between Kylo and Palps has to change, Palps will play the act of a weak, harmless old man, like the good old days with Anakin. Make Kylo less hostile, rather more intrigued. I’m working on a mockup that will go something like this:
- At last! My boy.
- Snoke trained you well.
- I killed Snoke.
- I made Snoke. I have been the voice inside your head.
- The first Order was just the beginning, I will give you so much more.
- I have died before, now I don’t have long, I’m weak - more than a clone, less than a man.
- What could you give me ?
- Everything - a new Empire, the might of the final order will soon be ready, It will be yours if you do what I ask.
- Become what your grand father Vader could not! Find the girl, Turn her and bring her before me. Together you will rule the galaxy as emperor and empress. Two that become one. A dyad of the dark-side of the force.
- Who is she ?
- Our blood. (just my crazy headcanon)
Here’s a proof of concept:
https://vimeo.com/411776713-Added in a hint of the “Palpatine’s teachings” track.
-Axed Snoke’s clone, as well as switching around the shots for better fluidity.
-Cut Snoke’s line “you have ever heard”.
-Cut Kylo’s aggression, he’s almost submissive, which in the context of this story makes his plan to kill Palps all the more pronounced.It be cool if someone could replace the vats of Snoke clones with ones of Palapatine instead.
It’s a good idea, but wouldn’t palps have to be naked? I’m getting queasy just thinking about it.
I was thinking close ups of failed cloned Palapatine(s) faces in tanks with red bacta around them. However, I do shutter to think of “The Senate” just letting it all hang out. I guess that is why the novelist of TRoS retconned Palaptine’s “son’s” origin. She couldn’t bring herself to picture the ole prune bumping uglies w/ some slave girl.
In other clone news, I do really think it be cool to replace the Sith Eternal Personnel with OG Jango Clones, but I know it probably be impossible to achieve. I think it would have been an awesome call back to the prequels, to Kylo’s line to Hux in TFA and would have gotten a pop from the audience. Also I think it would have gotten the point across that Palaptine is a clone subtly to the audience without have to come out and say it. One can dream…
I’m surprised you guys like 1 over the others. He seems really hunched over. The proportions for 2 feel like the best, to me. And it feels less like a still image than the others.
I completely agree; the body just looks odd in 1 and very unnatural to me. 2 or 3 are cool with me though.
all right! It is the one that I like the most too. 😃
I think the third one is the best too, then the second and finally the first. The first one is the only one that comes off as super odd to me. Keep up the amazing work!
So in this hypothetical version, Palpatine is dying, all this time he has been grooming Kylo and Rey, a prophesiced Dyad, to inherit the throne after his death. Palps gives the rundown to Kylo but he knows that there has to be a catch, he plays along but plans to kill him together with Rey. I think the dynamic between Kylo and Palps has to change, Palps will play the act of a weak, harmless old man, like the good old days with Anakin. Make Kylo less hostile, rather more intrigued. I’m working on a mockup that will go something like this:
- At last! My boy.
- Snoke trained you well.
- I killed Snoke.
- I made Snoke. I have been the voice inside your head.
- The first Order was just the beginning, I will give you so much more.
- I have died before, now I don’t have long, I’m weak - more than a clone, less than a man.
- What could you give me ?
- Everything - a new Empire, the might of the final order will soon be ready, It will be yours if you do what I ask.
- Become what your grand father Vader could not! Find the girl, Turn her and bring her before me. Together you will rule the galaxy as emperor and empress. Two that become one. A dyad of the dark-side of the force.
- Who is she ?
- Our blood. (just my crazy headcanon)
Here’s a proof of concept:
https://vimeo.com/411776713-Added in a hint of the “Palpatine’s teachings” track.
-Axed Snoke’s clone, as well as switching around the shots for better fluidity.
-Cut Snoke’s line “you have ever heard”.
-Cut Kylo’s aggression, he’s almost submissive, which in the context of this story makes his plan to kill Palps all the more pronounced.
As a rough proof of concept I love it. Do you think it is possible to clean up the new audio enough that it blends seamlessly? It be cool if someone could replace the vats of Snoke clones with ones of Palapatine instead, but that might be asking for too much VFX wizardry.
May you PM a link to this edit when you have a moment? I cannot wait to see it as I find Episode II on of the most flawed movies of the saga.
Jonh, seriously props to you for being so optimistic and generous with the feedback we’ve been giving you. I think this was something most people were hoping to see (I remember reading how many people online were hoping to see Anakin). I think if we can get a few solid versions of this, plus a few other major changes from some other editors around here, I think we can create a surprisingly different version of The Rise of Skywalker.
EDIT: If I had to nominate an extra Jedi to add, I wouldn’t say Leia since, like Hal said, her body is still on “Jungleworld” at this point. I would argue that you could put Qui-Gon on the far left, next to Anakin, though. I mean, he’s basically the reason all of them are even able to be force ghosts. Plus, we literally here Qui-Gon say “We stand behind you, Rey.”
Hell, if Rosario Dawson does end up showing up as Ahsoka in the Mandalorian, as rumors have been suggesting, I could see a future version of this with her standing there. That way you could have at least one female Jedi behind her.
Thank you vary much!
In this version I will not include a Qui-gon, but later, if you want it for your edition, I can include it 😃
I certainly would like to see a version w/ Qui-Gon Jinn, but I understand why he should probably be omitted from the final edit. That being said, I wish Liam Neeson who get to revisit the character in some capacity outside of the clone wars in the future. Qui Gon and Maul (Obi-Wan too) are the highlights of Episode I to me and their omission in the rest of the prequel films is definitely felt IMO.
Personally, I am more in favor of option two. I would love to revisit the main clone war arcs while I am having a SW movie marathon. However, that prospect is somewhat daunting as they episodes are often released out of chronological order and I have to reference a list to remember the primary episodes I want to focus on. Also option one would be more akin to just cherry picking the arcs that interest me and watching them as they currently are in order. Option two is more appeal because it is condensed and feels like a continuation of the films that I can watch between episodes II and III. Just my two cents, but thanks for all the effort. “We will watch your career with great interest”.
Jedi ghosts advanced
I have replaced yoda and anakin, and have made them more visible…
https://vimeo.com/409718237
password:jedi
This just keeps getting better and better! Truly amazing; what I also wanted from the first time I saw the film in the cinema! Keep up the great work and may the force be with you.
When the dyad show up you could have Palpatine say “Your coming together will be your undoing” from the trailer and have him immediately suck the life out of them, springing the trap he set up at the start of the film.
Totally down for this. Love the idea of using the few alternate lines of dialogue we have access to, to rework the narrative on screen.
That’s some very nice work. However, I think the only way I would actually want to use it as if it is so subtle that it’s almost hard to notice on the first viewing.
??? jedi ghosts v4…with anakin
https://vimeo.com/409718237
password:jedi
Love this! Definitely what I was actually expecting when I saw the film for the first time. I hope multiple fan editors here adopt this in their edits or something similar. Great job!
The Final Order Revealed:
https://vimeo.com/409356850
(rough, as always)
- New music
- Extended reveal a bit (pushed back when Palpatine starts talking)
- Cut out Rey being “not who she seems”
- Cut to Rey meditating after, instead of the Falcon
I really enjoyed this even though I am not a strong advocate for Rey being changed to a nobody. However, I understand why many want this change and have loved viewing all your edits so far. Quick question, perhaps you have already answered this before. Do you plan on adding in Palpatine’s “Fortnite Speech” in this edit? I really like it and though this may be the scene to overlay it as we see the sith fleet rise from the ice.
Hello, I am perfecting my version of the force ghost, I need to find good shoots of obi wan and anakin…
https://vimeo.com/409435967
password:jedi
This is so wizard! I look forward to seeing the final version. I hope you are sticking with the Sir Alec Guinness version for continuity sake. It took me awhile to let go of Sebastian Shaw at the end of RoTJ, but I’ve come to accept Hayden’s version at the end of that film. I am assuming you’ll use that version of Anakin (Hayden) for this shot?
Vision of the future:
https://vimeo.com/406327520Visions of the past:
https://vimeo.com/406328685Please keep in my these are still rough.
Big thanks to snooker for the shot of the Falcon.
Love both of these! Keep up the great work; I’m looking forward to seeing the finished product one day!
I enjoyed this edit. Really digging the Palpatine nods sprinkled throughout TLJ now. They are subtle, but they help bring some cohesion to the disjointed sequel trilogy. I also like Rey communing with Finn through the force before he is awaken from his coma. Things that aren’t real my taste are the conservative trimming of the opening Hux/Poe scene and Luke’s still disrespectful saber toss. The Canto Bight subplot could be trimmed more in my opinion too, but overall it was top notch. Thanks for all your hard work and may the force be with you!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DpV9unbnwxVfCdFNQeTK6LQricgJn-rE/view?usp=sharing
Here’s my attempt at changing the tint of Exegol (from blue to green) without changing the color of the lightning. I still have no idea how to handle the lightsabers, but this is a start.
Honestly, I was fine with the original blue hue. However, the contrast between the force lighting and the new green hue of the planet is pretty cool. Also it definitely reminds me of the clone wars arcs on Dathomir with the nightsisters and their force magic. Not sure if that was your intention, but a nice call back to the prequel era regardless.
Neither, really. Or I guess a bit of both? They need to evoke the organized militaristic vibe of the Third Reich while still being clearly new blood.
On a different note, I was wondering if there would be a way to establish very early in TFA that Jakku is just a more modern name for Tatooine. I don’t like clashing with canon, and the name comes up to often to edit out anyways, so I figure we could just have a throwaway line that establishes the two planets as one and the same. I guess you could put it the crawl, although that might be rather clumsy. Then again, where wouldn’t it be clumsy?
When TFA was getting ready to come out, I thought Jakku was going to be revealed to the first order name for Tatooine. I don’t think it would be super hard to do. Perhaps just add in a few landmarks we know from the original desert planet.
Deepfake all Final Order crew with Palpatine’s face.
Maybe deepfake them all with Jango’s face. This actually something I think would be cool if it was able to be implemented convincingly, but I doubt it is possible.
Here’s my opening, showing my new crawl and my version of an idea that’s been tossed around here a bit (using the TLJ deleted star destroyer bridge shots):
https://vimeo.com/403066614
Honestly, I loved the new crawl and opening you cooked up. Only thing I would change is working in more establishing shots of Mustafar as others have already done here. Keep up the great work!
I haven’t really even touched editing software in a while. I would like to foreshadow the Dyad idea, if there’s a way to do it.
Well I look forward to seeing what you accomplish now the saga is complete, once you get back on the editing horse.
EDIT RELEASED
PM me for links, if you’re interested.
Personal thoughts:
First of all, I came to hate the visual quality of the original ROTJ. I dislike most of the coloring, and how many things look oddly out of focus.
Regarding the edit itself, it’s not perfect, but I hope it’s at least enjoyable. Without a doubt it’s been the most challening edit of mine so far. There are many things I’m satisfied with, and some others I’m not.
I hope to get some feedback from you.
May I have a link, please? Looking forward to watching this edit ASAP. Thanks for all the time and effort. May the force be with you!
I’m still on mini-hiatus!
Any progress lately? Now after the events of TRoS, do you think you will change anything within this edit to make the trilogy more cohesive? Some have suggested the Dyad being mentioned in TFA so it is foreshadowed and isn’t so out of left field in TRoS. Anyways, I look forward to any future updates with this project. Loved the last version; keep up the great work!