Darth Sadifous

idir_hh said:

TRoS had a cut subplot of Rey building her lightsaber throughout the movie:
https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilSzostak/status/1261714380837711872?s=19

https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilSzostak/status/1261695656457977857

Definitely a missed opportunity. I wouldn’t mind in the future for Daisy and John to reprise their roles in a Disney Plus show or mini series with Rey reforming the Jedi Order and Finn being her first student. I know the sequels aren’t the most popular now days, but we missed seeing Luke form his Jedi Academy. I’d like to see this come to fruition without the impending doom of the Jedi falling on the horizon. Also they could actually pick up the dropped plot thread of Finn being force sensitive in TRoS. However, I know this slightly off topic here.

poppasketti said:

idir_hh said:

Here’s the source: https://youtu.be/cwP9LB_i8P8

I wasn’t sure yet where tie fighters should go in Kewlfish’s 2nd shot, but I really like the first shot Chase Adams found in the clip above.

Here’s a possible option for a tie flyover:
https://vimeo.com/419338556
pw: fanedit

Looks amazing! You are super talented; keep up the awesome work my friend!

idir_hh said:

Like this? https://youtu.be/dFG0YgxEN2M

Yes, it looks a little rough. However, I believe that was the idea I had in my head. It makes more sense to me for the wayfinder to be stored safely in the depths of Vader’s castle instead of on the castle grounds anyways. Also I just think it could sell the establishing shot of Vader’s Castle from RO better and make it not feel so random or tacked on. Now Kylo fights his way through the surrounding area to get to the castle “ruins” where the wayfinder is stored. Also from that link, I think a few First Order banners or some sequel era stormtroopers walking around Coruscant could definitely help sell the First Order occupying the former republic capital before Kylo’s board meeting scene.

I was just wondering if it would be possible to remove the wooded background when Kylo finally retrieves the wayfinder from the stone chest? If you were able to put in an alternate background or even a convincing matte painting in this shot of the interior of Vader’s castle it could work well with the re-purposed RO Shot of Vader’s castle. This would imply that Kylo fought through the forest and then ultimately entered the castle to where the sith wayfinder was being stored.

Chase Adams said:

Please Read, Important!

Now that we have learned that snooker is no longer able to assist with Hal, or anybody else’s edits, I thought it might be a good idea to clarify what exactly it is that Hal still needs doing in terms of VFX and audio. I’ve had trouble figuring out exactly what it is since his checklist doesn’t seem to be caught up on recent updates.

1. Mustafar establishing shot. (Probably taken from Rogue One with shuttle digitally removed)
2. The falcon exiting hyperspace at the giant iceberg. (Needed if we are to remove the chess scene)
3. Doesn’t look like Naboo is happening in this film so probably wouldn’t look any further into the Gungan statues.
4. Establishing shot of Coruscant from space during the conference room scene.
5. Possibly the squeaky wheel scene, but I noticed in Hal’s clip that BB-8 still had puppetry equipment on him so it might be difficult.
6. Possibly some line from 3PO when his mind is restored to hint at his prequel memories.
7. Civilian fleet lines from all of you guys.
8. Star Destroyer crashing over Coruscant to replace the Ewok shot.
9. Finalised form of the chess scene.
10. Ben Solo’s force ghost.
11. Unsure if Hal is going with the “Just Rey” line.
12. Falcon leaving Tatooine.

Bonus!

This isn’t on Hal’s list, but I strongly recommend using Bobson Dugnutt’s version of force ghost Luke on Ach’To when it is finished as it drastically reduces the level of blueness and makes it more in line with the OT ghosts.

Is there anything else to add to the list Hal? 🤔

Is anyone going to repurpose the Ewok shot and move it to be an establishing shot on Kef Bir to imply it is the forest moon of Endor from ROTJ since the Coruscant shot at the end will replace it?

RogueLeader said:

Glad you like it krausfadr! And thanks for the positivity.

I think they could have depicted the fall of the temple in a way that was still sympathetic toward Ben, but didn’t involve a Force storm blowing up the temple.

Back when I thought the Knights of Ren were some of Luke’s students, I pictured a scenario where the commotion at Ben’s hut led to a scene around the debris, where the other students would gather around to see what happened. Ben would come out in a daze saying Luke tried to kill him. Many of the students wouldn’t believe him, and they would accuse him of killing Luke. Some of Ben’s friends would take his side, and this argument would culminate into a fight, where one student kills another. Suddenly, it would turn into an all out brawl, student fighting student. Before Ben even has a chance to recompose himself, he has his lightsaber drawn again, defending himself from attacks, and eventually being the one to strike back in rage and anger. After Luke is KO, it basically turns into Lord of the Flies with lightsabers, but things devolve in a matter of minutes rather than days, because everyone thinks Ben killed Luke. Ben catches the Temple on fire, and once everyone is dead except Ben and his surviving allies, they leave to go seek sanctuary with the only person Ben thinks won’t judge them: Snoke.

So when Luke wakes up, this is why he finds the bodies of many of his students strewn across the field (something the comic doesn’t account for), with his temple burning in the distance. As Luke collects the bodies, he probably notes that the bodies of Ben’s closest friends were unaccounted for, deducing that they likely joined him in the slaughter.

Couldn’t agree with this more. This is definitely what I imagined who Luke was originally recounting what happen to his students in TLJ.

jonh said:

What if kylo finds the wayfinder in coruscant? Instead of mustafar … In the jedi temple

If anyone could make that a reality it certainly is you. The final ghost scene with the purple lightsaber is all I ever wanted out of that scene. I sound like a broken record at this point, but truly amazing work!

idir_hh said:

krausfadr said:

The comic sucks, and I plan on ignoring its storyline. The KoR in my edit will be the students from the razed Jedi Temple.

Agreed, the comic was comically bad.
“Oh poor Ben, he did’nt kill the jedi at the temple, and the one that he did kill was by accident!
The poor boy did nothing wrong!”
🤮

That comic was an epic fail! They bent over backwards to make Ben a misunderstood white knight. They totally abandon TLJ hint of them being Luke’s former students which I thought made so much more sense. The Knight of Ren were wasted potential like most of the sequel trilogy…sadly!

RogueLeader said:

I like the DotF concept piece, but I think if we were to use it, I would remove the massive ship and replace it with a regular FO destroyer. If we are going to show a destroyer blowing up during the victory montage at the end of the film, I think it would be better to set up that moment by showing that destroyer hover above the city at the beginning of the film, rather than this big boi right here. Unless we showed it blow up or on fire at the end.

That would be pretty epic if someone could pull it off. It be like the mother ship blowing up at the end of Independence Day!

jonh said:

Jadi ghosts_purple version
https://vimeo.com/412387620
password:jedi

WOW! Just WOW! This what I always wanted in the original film, but I never thought the ending I envisioned in my head would be brought to fruition. Jonh, you are immensely talented and I would like to thank you for being a true fan and putting your amazing talents to good use. May the force be with you my friend!

idir_hh said:

Played around with that Coruscant concept art from DOTF: https://vimeo.com/416679459
It might be usable with some added lights and sfx.

Really like the idea of this…hope someone is able to take it from a concept to a reality. Do you plan on this being a lead in to the First Order Council meeting the the film?

jonh said:

Last version of Jedi force ghost…
https://vimeo.com/409718237
password:jedi

problem: new shots, out of sync music

Bravo! This is the closest thing we are going to get to a special edition of the sequels. Lucasfilms wishes they could have delivered something this epic for the ending. Can’t wait to see this integrated into the final film with Leia’s purple lightsaber.

RogueLeader said:

I know many people have written crawls that describe Kylo Ren on a quest to discover the origin of his former master’s power, and I was trying to think of a way that could tie Snoke, Palpatine, Vader and Mustafar together.

Right now, I’m playing around with this idea of starting the movie with Kylo touching Vader’s helmet to sort of lead him the right way to the wayfinder on the planet surface. So he touches the helmet, then he would hear the voices of either Snoke and/or Vader, and get quick flashes of Vader’s castle, the Sith wayfinder, and the Exegol temple/the fleet. The idea being that this is Palpatine speaking through Vader’s helmet, trying to lead him the way to Exegol. I also would fit the “Find me” line somewhere in here. I’m still not exactly sure what to fit in the vision but maybe others would have some ideas about this. But I think it should set up Kylo’s “want” in the film, whatever that is.

But, I thought it would be interesting to have a shot of Snoke on Mustafar, standing in front of the Sith Wayfinder (either to use it to find Exegol, or to place it there as part of Palpatine’s plans). But I was thinking it could be a quick shot of something like this.

Playing catch up on this thread, but I love this idea. I agree with fellow posters the mock up image is striking and scary. I’d definitely be a champion of this idea if it could be executed on screen convincingly.

snooker said:

https://streamable.com/cekikp

This edit helps cement the idea that these people are a family now, instead of Rey being completely alone on a desert planet at the end. Her friends are there waiting for her : )

It also helps explain why BB-8 is there, he’s just a curious little friend : )

It’s so simple, but makes the ending definitely better in my opinion. Great job!

Hal 9000 said:

To move crawl discussion for this project into its own thread, here’s my current draft. Could stand some tweaking yet.

Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER
Across the galaxy, the spark of hope lives on. To suffocate a growing uprising, the tyrannical First Order has silenced communication between neighboring systems.

Attempting to unite the disparate rebelling worlds, General Leia Organa dispatches her brave agents across the stars to fan the flame of Resistance.

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has traveled to Mustafar in search of a rumored Imperial fleet that would allow him to destroy any threat to his power…

I don’t dislike it, but surprised there is no direct mention of Rey since she is the protagonist of the whole sequel trilogy…just a thought.

Cinefy said:

Very minor, but I think it would be nice if the Sith Troopers had clone voices from the prequels/Clone Wars, not sure if theres a way to explain it but would be such a simple little thing to include.

VO Test Pitched Down:
https://youtu.be/WjwKep789z4

Totally down for this. I’d love to convey the Sith Eternal is composed at least partially of “Jango” clones.

Hal 9000 said:

Well I brought it into this thread for exposure.

I should be shamed.

I didn’t mean it like that. You are one of the most talented people on here. Just thought you may have accidentally posted in the wrong thread. I’m always down to check out other things you are working on.

Hal 9000 said:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZwFZ2dos1-qbGqxX1512Ri787Lc5WU4e

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TzgLt6l4LmMp4z9PTiA_PNvNiVjXs7cz

Updated Sarlacc links!

Wrong thread, right? Unless you are thinking of adding the sarlacc to the end of TRoS.

jarbear said:

@Hal’s first post

Reasonable question about why use them. The main reasons I came up with playing with this idea was …

1.) Already crazy that Palps has a Sith butt load of ships. With that butt load, you need even more butt loads of people for both piloting … and troops. Lots of them. Cloning helps with that.

2.) Cloning is brought back, a la Palps. He is a clone … so he and his crew still have the cloning ability, so why not?

3.) For “movie” cannon, viewers watching these movies know that “That voice is a clones voice!” so we connect that dot.

4.) In TFA, Kylo mocks Hux about using a clone army, inferring that the FO method may not be as good as clones.

5.) We like clones.

That’s about it. It is more of a fill in the gap on why the heck there are so many “baddies” out of no where. TROS already doesn’t make sense and we all understand we have to let go of common sense, but this is a minor thing that is easy to implement.

There aren’t really any other scenes to add these clone sounds, since we are talking about like 10 seconds worth of Sith troop footage. I did add a Wilhelm scream when a group of them were grenaded by Jana … but that’s all I got.

As for Hals second post: I would LOVE to see Rey’s lighting be yellow. (Also remove the crackle, but the yellow lighting is a cool concept.

I would also think it would be cool at the end, with Jonh’s footage using the Force Ghost to help out Rey, having the final lighting push back be white or something would be neat too.

I’ve been advocating for this exact thing for awhile. I believe it would help logically explain who is manning the Sith Fleet. It would help link the prequels to sequels and make the films feel like a more cohesive saga. Also it goes hand in hand with Palpatine’s own cloning in TRoS. I’m not an FX expert like many of my fellow posters, but I’d love to hear the voice of the prequel clones or even a deepfake of “Jango’s” face on the bridge crew of the Sith Fleet Star Destroyers.

specialk2121 said:

I might be in the minority, but I really like the ending as is. The only thing I would add is Force Ghost Ben Solo.

I agree…all I needed was Ben showing up as a force ghost at the end to join his mother and uncle. I also wish Finn had of been there to imply he would be Rey’s first Jedi student. However, I don’t know how you would imply that with the material we currently have unless it was audio off screen because the sequel trilogy doesn’t have enough of Finn yelling “RRRREEEEYYYYY!”

pleasehello said:

jonh said:

poppasketti said:

jonh, are you suggesting we reshoot the reshoots?!

🤣🤣🤣

when luke first appears he has good hair, but in the following shots, he suddenly looks like manson

Marilyn or Charles? 😛

I noticed the reshoot wig immediately when I first saw the movie. With a $200 million budget, you’d think they could afford a decent wig.

Yeah, Luke looks like he got longer hair and wider since becoming a force ghost in TRoS.

jonh said:

Chase Adams said:

jonh said:

That looks really great jonh! Excellent job so far. I’m curious, how did you create the shots where they all raise their hands to help Rey?

For obi wan, anakin and luke, I have photographed my hand, and for yoda, I did a montage with the ROTS yoda arm …
frankensteins

I think I’m going insane… The video attached to that link says it was uploaded a week ago, and there’s no shots of them lifting hands…

in part 2 where they raise their hands
https://vimeo.com/412387620
password_shield

it’s still unfinished 😃

Simply phenomenal…so much talent on these forums. This is exactly what I was wishing for in the theater the first time I saw this film. I love the collaborative effort here of everyone feeding each other ideas and combining them to make something truly special. Can’t wait to see the final product!

poppasketti said:

Darth Sadifous suggested making the fluid red when first discussing this idea, and as soon as I tried it I liked it. It brings color contrast to the scene, it feels a little more Palpatine to me, and I found the green vats a bit cliche. I could try the green, though, if that’s what people prefer!

Great job! This was what I had in mind and the updates since then are even better. The red bacta was also originally intended in TESB and matches adywan’s fan edit when he reinstated the original color. It really came out well; you are an editing god!

IlFanEditore said:

Thank you!
So… I have another problem here.

If the first part of the movie revolves around the FLEET, and not Palpatine, how can I make the Resistance find out about him?
Kylo finds Palpatine because he goes to Exegol, but how do Rey and the others do the same? I cannot keep it a secret, because Kylo tells Rey about Palpatine…
I need a scene which can be used to pass the info to the Resistance.

Perhaps use the Palpatine speech from “Fortnite” to reveal the return of “the senate” to the resistance.

jonh said:

https://vimeo.com/412387620
password:shield

Force Shield concept V1

The real MVP! All your work so far is awesome. I really like the force shield and the ghost aiding Rey in her defeat of Palapatine. However, I’m down for making it more subtle since that seems to be the general feedback. Keep killing it!