Darth Sadifous

idir_hh said:

Maybe Palpatine’s plan was to have Vader meet his clone on Exogol had Luke killed him on DS2.

Would be interesting to have Vader know that Palpatine won’t die on the death star, it would certainly explain Vader’s change of tune from ESB where he planned on overthrowing him to ROTJ where he’s completely submissive to his rule.

I could imagine an alternate scenario where after Luke strikes down the Emperor, Vader tells him that he is still alive on Exogol and that they must find a way to destroy him once and for all.

Marvel is making a “What if…” animated series for Disney Plus with this concept. I’ve always hoped if it is successful, they would do the same thing to SW. What if you Qui Gon hadn’t died? What if Anakin had not have been burned on Mustafar? Etc."

kewlfish said:

Darth Sadifous said:

Don’t get me wrong, I love Lando in this movie. The nostalgia is strong, I just wish there was more going on above Rey and Palpatine than what we got. ANH, RoTJ and RO space battles all had stakes and better pacing. As soon as the armada shows up, there is no more tension. The music just helps to cement the resistances winning is a forgone conclusion. Also as soon as Pryde’s ship is destroyed, it’s like the Sith Eternal and the FO just fall apart like a cheap suit. I don’t know if there is anything that can be done in editing to rectify this, besides removing the wide shot of the armada to reduce the unbelievably factor of that mass of ships assembling at one time. However, it just a concern I still have after seeing all this amazing work stitched together. If anyone could come up with something, I know it would be this super talented community we have here.

The easiest fix that would require hardly any work would be to cut Lando’s scene until after Uncle Palps is dead as well… then it would be more believable that they came at the last second and finished off the fleet… maybe

Yes, that is definitely the easiest fix. However, if Lando doesn’t arrive until after “the senate” dies then we lose Palpatine’s force lighting into the sky which might not be the worse thing since I still scratch my head as it how he didn’t lightening his own forces during this.

Don’t get me wrong, I love Lando in this movie. The nostalgia is strong, I just wish there was more going on above Rey and Palpatine than what we got. ANH, RoTJ and RO space battles all had stakes and better pacing. As soon as the armada shows up, there is no more tension. The music just helps to cement the resistances winning is a forgone conclusion. Also as soon as Pryde’s ship is destroyed, it’s like the Sith Eternal and the FO just fall apart like a cheap suit. I don’t know if there is anything that can be done in editing to rectify this, besides removing the wide shot of the armada to reduce the unbelievably factor of that mass of ships assembling at one time. However, it just a concern I still have after seeing all this amazing work stitched together. If anyone could come up with something, I know it would be this super talented community we have here.

Kewlfish,

Thanks for putting this together. I just finished watching it. It’s nice to see all the contributions coming together into a fully formed ending.

I wish there is something more that could be done about the space battle/ “ground battle”. It just seems like there are no stakes at all and Lando’s arrival is so deus ex machina. Perhaps we could cut the wide shot of the armada’s arrival as it’s a bit overwhelming and so unconvincing that Lando rallied that many ships in so little time after no one answered the call one movie prior. Other than this, the ending is vastly improved from what we received theatrically. Thanks to all who have contributed; I’m excited to see the final product!

Hal 9000 said:

Here’s the civilian fleet! There’s still gonna be room for more submissions until I render out the final edit at some point.

https://vimeo.com/manage/422455215/general

I was able to watch with the edited link above. I like the idea, but just listening on my computer without headphones most of the comm chatter is hard to make out over the swelling music. Perhaps you could tweak the audio slightly to make the dialogue a little more audible. However if it is an artistic choice, I think you’ve met your goal. It definitely helps sell more there are thousands of beings manning these ships regardless.

Movies Remastered said:

This version is better https://youtu.be/3J-etn7LP7k

Seems like they have a new edition arriving in 5 hours… 🤞

It’s a cool concept if you can reconcile Ben and Rey being a couple after all the horrible things he has done. Anyways, the editor chose to go with “Rey Solo” and it definitely sounds clipped. I personally prefer Ben as a force ghost over this, but different strokes for different folks!

JakeRyan17 said:

idir_hh said:

As the boy pulls the broom to him and begins sweeping, a voice crackles into a distant speaker. It is Poe, saying ‘We are not alone. What our mothers and fathers have fought for we will not let die. Today we make our last stand…for the galaxy!’ Many ships jump into hyperspace here, not just one.

Goosebumps.

Edit: Since Crait is now the opening of the film do you plan on including palpatines broadcast in there in some capacity? After the galaxie’s decline to help, hearing the broadcast could be what sets up the rallying of the people’s Fleet at the end of the film.

I integrated the Broadcast into the Crait sequence here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tUe4Nz4dKptm5UzcBu2QhX9N9FuaISoa/view?usp=sharing

It still may not be useful, but its definitely possible to integrate.

This is pretty cool, but I think another possible area to integrate it is when the resistance has already fled the base and Kylo is staring at the disappearing dice. The camera lingers on the radio equipment inside the makeshift base. You could have the broadcast play here at the end of TLJ and have TROS pick up with Kylo obsessed with finding Palpatine or the origin of the broadcast at the least.

I just read through this thread and really like the idea of making Holdo, one of the last surviving senior officers of the New Republic Fleet. This would help illuminate why Poe is perhaps at odds with her as the New Republic did not believe Leia’s warning of the threat of the FO to the galaxy until after it was too late. Once Leia (the founding member of the resistance) is incapacitated, her band of like minded followers is taken over by a “bureaucrat” who has already made the fatal mistake of underestimating the FO and is now hijacking the resistance in the name of the New Republic who got the galaxy into this mess in the first place.

Also if there is a way to insert that the resistance believes there is a FO spy onboard then I think it would lend more credibility to Poe/Holdo’s cat and mouse game with each other. Plus it would also pay off one film later when Hux is revealed to be a resistance spy in TROS kind of lending credence to their suspicions of a FO spy in this alter version of TLJ.

Nev,

I’ve read over your plans for the project starlight verison of The Rise of Skywalker and it seems quite ambitious. I am quite eager to see how you pull that endeavor off. However, at risk of sounding like a broken record I am eagerly awaiting an updated version of this TFA project. Do you think you will release a second version of this first or dive into editing your version of TROS first? I can’t wait to see the completed deleted scene of Kylo on the Falcon and your efforts to make Phasma a more formidable opponent for our heroes on Starkiller Base!

DZ-330 said:

Here is another take on the crawl based off of Hal’s most recent draft. The Kimji scenes make it seem like the galaxy has no hope. Poe’s rally speech makes it seem like this is the one chance for everyone to band together. So why make it seem like they have already done so in the crawl? It makes Lando’s arrival have more impact later.

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EPISODE IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

Countless systems have been enslaved
by the dreaded FIRST ORDER. Fear is
everywhere, hope is fading.

General Leia Organa, troubled by
visions of an unseen threat, has
dispatched her brave agents to
investigate. While Rey, the last hope
of the JEDI, continues her training.

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren
scours the galaxy, chasing whispers
of a hidden power that would allow
him to destroy any challenge
to his rule…

I agree with your assessment and like the new crawl you came up with. There needs to be a sense of dread and the audience needs to think the the deck is stacked against the resistance. Also it helps explain why no help came for Leia and the dwindling forces on Crait.

Octorox said:

Yeah, I don’t like the idea of making Ajan Kloss Naboo either. The Rebellion/Resistance has never had a base on a highly populated planet. After they realize the emperor has returned, it should give them some pause that they’re literally hiding out on his homeworld.

Not to mention Leia has already seen her peaceful homeworld destroyed. I doubt she would want to endanger her mother’s as well.

Kewlfish, I personally think that video you posted with the repurposed battlefront cinematics doesn’t seem too jarring too me. It’s such a brief snippet that I don’t think your average viewer would even notice it’s rendered from a video game. I mean it certainly is up to par with the CGI clones of the prequel films.

jonh said:

Chase Adams said:

jonh said:

(Now I continue with the f_cking hair of luke hahah)

Jonh, I was going to ask you, but are the only shots where Luke wears are wig the parts where he says “I was wrong…” “What are you most afraid of…” and “Because you’re a Palpatine” Is that correct?

in the shots where he’s sitting too😅😅(f_cking wig) and:a thousand generations live in you now, too
and he is 5 kg fatter hahahah

Luke has definitely been eating well in the afterlife. Hamill lost all that weight for a minute of screen time in TFA and maintained it through TLJ. I guess by the time of TRoS, he just said screw it.

Movies Remastered said:

idir_hh said:

Can’t wait to check it out!

I just did a rough cut premiere for friends and fans that helped from the start. Once I merge these ideas into one edit I’ll do another one and let you know if you’d like?

I’d definitely be down to see even a rough cut of all your hard work too!

LILIAN02230 said:

idir_hh said:

This guy’s Mustafar test from the radical redux thread is amazing.

LILIAN02230 said:

Hello There! here is an unfinished test to place the battle of Mustafar in TLJ, I have an idea behind my head with the voice of Vader, so that he guides Kylo to him to link the line “finish what you started” with the he story of Palpatine pulling the strings, to me it is more important that this revelation is made just after the death of Luke.

https://vimeo.com/419658296
I believe I will make you an alt version to place at the start of IX

Damn that’s unbelievable; looks so good! Keep up the amazing work.

Just an idea that came to me recently, I don’t know how feasible it is; brought it up recently in another thread. However, I was thinking if someone took the clip of Kylo suggesting a clone army in TFA and re-purpose the line to him saying “a clone” when encountering Palaptine. I know his voice is modulated in TFA and he is maskless in TRoS so it may not work. If someone could clean it up, it could make Kylo seem more intuitive and help explain further in the film that the Palapatine we encounter in TRoS is indeed a clone. Also it would pair well with Palaptine’s deleted line in response “more than a clone, less than a man.”

Just an idea that came to me recently, I don’t know how feasible it is. However, I was thinking if someone took the clip of Kylo suggesting a clone army in TFA and re-purpose the line to him saying “a clone” when encountering Palaptine. I know his voice is modulated in TFA and he is maskless in TRoS so it may not work. If someone could clean it up, it could make Kylo seem more intuitive and help explain further in the film that the Palapatine we encounter in TRoS is indeed a clone.

Movies Remastered said:

Darth Sadifous said:

idir_hh said:

TRoS had a cut subplot of Rey building her lightsaber throughout the movie:
https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilSzostak/status/1261714380837711872?s=19

https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilSzostak/status/1261695656457977857

Definitely a missed opportunity. I wouldn’t mind in the future for Daisy and John to reprise their roles in a Disney Plus show or mini series with Rey reforming the Jedi Order and Finn being her first student.

Both Daisy and John have said “You ain’t gonna Disney+ me!”

I’ve read the interviews, but I feel they may be singing different tunes if their careers don’t have quite the upward trajectory they are hoping for. I think Oscar Isaac and Adam Driver are going to continue to go on and be involved with bigger projects and be potential leading men. I don’t know if Daisy or John are going to be able to carry a movie by themselves, but time will tell.

idir_hh said:

TRoS had a cut subplot of Rey building her lightsaber throughout the movie:
https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilSzostak/status/1261714380837711872?s=19

https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilSzostak/status/1261695656457977857

Definitely a missed opportunity. I wouldn’t mind in the future for Daisy and John to reprise their roles in a Disney Plus show or mini series with Rey reforming the Jedi Order and Finn being her first student. I know the sequels aren’t the most popular now days, but we missed seeing Luke form his Jedi Academy. I’d like to see this come to fruition without the impending doom of the Jedi falling on the horizon. Also they could actually pick up the dropped plot thread of Finn being force sensitive in TRoS. However, I know this slightly off topic here.

poppasketti said:

idir_hh said:

Here’s the source: https://youtu.be/cwP9LB_i8P8

I wasn’t sure yet where tie fighters should go in Kewlfish’s 2nd shot, but I really like the first shot Chase Adams found in the clip above.

Here’s a possible option for a tie flyover:
https://vimeo.com/419338556
pw: fanedit

Looks amazing! You are super talented; keep up the awesome work my friend!

idir_hh said:

Like this? https://youtu.be/dFG0YgxEN2M

Yes, it looks a little rough. However, I believe that was the idea I had in my head. It makes more sense to me for the wayfinder to be stored safely in the depths of Vader’s castle instead of on the castle grounds anyways. Also I just think it could sell the establishing shot of Vader’s Castle from RO better and make it not feel so random or tacked on. Now Kylo fights his way through the surrounding area to get to the castle “ruins” where the wayfinder is stored. Also from that link, I think a few First Order banners or some sequel era stormtroopers walking around Coruscant could definitely help sell the First Order occupying the former republic capital before Kylo’s board meeting scene.

I was just wondering if it would be possible to remove the wooded background when Kylo finally retrieves the wayfinder from the stone chest? If you were able to put in an alternate background or even a convincing matte painting in this shot of the interior of Vader’s castle it could work well with the re-purposed RO Shot of Vader’s castle. This would imply that Kylo fought through the forest and then ultimately entered the castle to where the sith wayfinder was being stored.

Chase Adams said:

Please Read, Important!

Now that we have learned that snooker is no longer able to assist with Hal, or anybody else’s edits, I thought it might be a good idea to clarify what exactly it is that Hal still needs doing in terms of VFX and audio. I’ve had trouble figuring out exactly what it is since his checklist doesn’t seem to be caught up on recent updates.

1. Mustafar establishing shot. (Probably taken from Rogue One with shuttle digitally removed)
2. The falcon exiting hyperspace at the giant iceberg. (Needed if we are to remove the chess scene)
3. Doesn’t look like Naboo is happening in this film so probably wouldn’t look any further into the Gungan statues.
4. Establishing shot of Coruscant from space during the conference room scene.
5. Possibly the squeaky wheel scene, but I noticed in Hal’s clip that BB-8 still had puppetry equipment on him so it might be difficult.
6. Possibly some line from 3PO when his mind is restored to hint at his prequel memories.
7. Civilian fleet lines from all of you guys.
8. Star Destroyer crashing over Coruscant to replace the Ewok shot.
9. Finalised form of the chess scene.
10. Ben Solo’s force ghost.
11. Unsure if Hal is going with the “Just Rey” line.
12. Falcon leaving Tatooine.

Bonus!

This isn’t on Hal’s list, but I strongly recommend using Bobson Dugnutt’s version of force ghost Luke on Ach’To when it is finished as it drastically reduces the level of blueness and makes it more in line with the OT ghosts.

Is there anything else to add to the list Hal? 🤔

Is anyone going to repurpose the Ewok shot and move it to be an establishing shot on Kef Bir to imply it is the forest moon of Endor from ROTJ since the Coruscant shot at the end will replace it?

RogueLeader said:

Glad you like it krausfadr! And thanks for the positivity.

I think they could have depicted the fall of the temple in a way that was still sympathetic toward Ben, but didn’t involve a Force storm blowing up the temple.

Back when I thought the Knights of Ren were some of Luke’s students, I pictured a scenario where the commotion at Ben’s hut led to a scene around the debris, where the other students would gather around to see what happened. Ben would come out in a daze saying Luke tried to kill him. Many of the students wouldn’t believe him, and they would accuse him of killing Luke. Some of Ben’s friends would take his side, and this argument would culminate into a fight, where one student kills another. Suddenly, it would turn into an all out brawl, student fighting student. Before Ben even has a chance to recompose himself, he has his lightsaber drawn again, defending himself from attacks, and eventually being the one to strike back in rage and anger. After Luke is KO, it basically turns into Lord of the Flies with lightsabers, but things devolve in a matter of minutes rather than days, because everyone thinks Ben killed Luke. Ben catches the Temple on fire, and once everyone is dead except Ben and his surviving allies, they leave to go seek sanctuary with the only person Ben thinks won’t judge them: Snoke.

So when Luke wakes up, this is why he finds the bodies of many of his students strewn across the field (something the comic doesn’t account for), with his temple burning in the distance. As Luke collects the bodies, he probably notes that the bodies of Ben’s closest friends were unaccounted for, deducing that they likely joined him in the slaughter.

Couldn’t agree with this more. This is definitely what I imagined who Luke was originally recounting what happen to his students in TLJ.

jonh said:

What if kylo finds the wayfinder in coruscant? Instead of mustafar … In the jedi temple

If anyone could make that a reality it certainly is you. The final ghost scene with the purple lightsaber is all I ever wanted out of that scene. I sound like a broken record at this point, but truly amazing work!