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#647704
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OT'd Prequels
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This is just an idea at this point.  Not sure if I'm going to actually do it.  What I want to do is take the prequels, color correct them to match the look of the OT films (for example TPM would be corrected to match ANH,  AOTC to TESB, and ROTS to ROTJ).  I would also be replacing the entire soundtracks of the prequels with music from the OT.  I wouldn't actually be changing the storyline at all, just the color correction and soundtrack replacement.  I've got an idea as to how to effectively replace the music, but I have to do a test to make sure it will work well.  If it all works out, though, and there's any interest in something like this, this will most likely make its way onto my list of projects.

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#647643
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Remake the Prequels
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Been working more on the storyline.  Really starting to like where it's going.  Here's a question for you all.  The Mandalorians are the main villains in my story, so I'm going to try and work a Boba Fett origin story into the trilogy.  I know it isn't necessary, but I do like the idea of as many links between the trilogies as possible, I just think backstories like this were done poorly in the Lucas prequels.  I don't necessarily want Boba Fett to be directly involved with the main storyline.  Just a quick something to explain how he became a bounty hunter.  Was he a Mandalorian who went rogue?  Was he young like in AOTC?  What do you all think Fett's origin story should be? 

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#647184
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George Lucas ties the knot...
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All these jokes and all I can think about is why the hell did George wear a white tie with a white shirt?  But in all seriousness I hope he has a good marriage and a fun semi-retirement.  Who knows?  Maybe he'll be so overwhelmed by the joy of marriage that he'll tell Kathleen to get to work restoring the original negatives of the OT.  Wishful thinking, maybe?

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#645854
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Remake the Prequels
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I'm leaning toward my first idea.

-She was married to Anakin before the events of Episode 1.  She was kidnapped by the Mandalorians (basically the stormtroopers of my prequels) to use as a slave.  Anakin rescues her during the adventure.

I'm just worried because with how this idea plays out plot-wise, it is extremely similar to Leia's rescue and escape from the Death Star in ANH, and I don't want it to seem like I'm just doing the same story, thirty years earlier, ya know?

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#645848
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Remake the Prequels
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You are forgetting that, while there are none in the fellowship itself, LOTR is not at all void of strong female characters, and that most of them are very central to the story.  Most great stories have a strong female character.  I do believe that any Star Wars movie does NEED a strong female presence in order to feel complete.

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#645828
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Puggo GRANDE - 16mm restoration
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nofranchise said:

Hi

This is kind of a long shot. I have been trying for ages to torrent the Puggo Grande version without luck. 

Is MySpleen still hosting it? Would it be rude to ask for an invite? 

Just putting it out there - as a long time lurker, I only got around to registering now. 

Thanks!

 

Yeah, I feel your pain.  This hasn't been seeded in ages.  It's literally going to take me three weeks to download this at the rate it's going.

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#645809
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Remake the Prequels
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The problem I have with Padme (just gonna refer to Anakin's wife as Padme for simplicity's sake) not playing a big role in the story is that there needs to be a strong female character to offset the almost too large as it is male character lineup.  Could you imagine Star Wars without Leia?  Harry Potter without Hermione?  Indiana Jones without... well any of his various women except Willie Scott?  It's a story necessity.  Especially if you're working off of Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey, which I am, as Joseph Campbell was a huge influence on Star Wars.  There needs to be a "godess" or "temptress," and yes, these archetypes don't have to be personified, but they really should be in the Star Wars universe, as it really is a fairytale in the simplest sense.

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#645733
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Remake the Prequels
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Now, here's something that's been on my mind.  How do you all think Padme should fit into all of this?  I've had a lot of pretty vague ideas.  Here are a few:

-She was married to Anakin before the events of Episode 1.  She was kidnapped by the Mandalorians (basically the stormtroopers of my prequels) to use as a slave.  Anakin rescues her during the adventure.

-She is a royal from Alderaan who has an affair with Anakin. (harder to work into the story, but one of the cooler ideas imo)

-Meets Obi-Wan and Anakin during adventure.  Love triangle between them a-la Luke and Han in OT.

-(very similar to TPM) She is a representative of the Queen of Alderaan instructed to accompany Obi-Wan on his journey.  (Not too fond of this one but I think I could make it work.)

What do you guys think is the best way to work her into the story?  Do you have other ideas?  Please share. 

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#645726
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Remake the Prequels
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Apart from the quests of Obi-Wan and Anakin, Episode II would focus mainly on the transition between Republic and Empire, and Episode III would focus mainly on the destruction of the Jedi.  My goal with this storyline wasn't to not spoil the reveal, but to give people an option to, if they choose, not spoil the reveal while still getting a fulfilling story.  I wan't to give people a lot of options when it comes to viewing order, something that I consider to be a big problem with the Lucas prequels is that there really isn't a definitive viewing order at all.  I would like to give people not one definite viewing order, but several that can all work equally well based on what they are looking for story-wise.  The idea for Anakin cutting down his troops after losing their trust actually comes from an idea Lucas had around the time of ROTJ, though I can't remember where I read it.   In terms of how characters get from one place to another, you're right to say my Episode I is similar to the Lucas prequel.  However, the overall plot and characters are so different that I don't think it will matter.

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#645706
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Remake the Prequels
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Slightly off the present course of conversation:  I think I've figured out a storyline where, if you prefer a more complete, whole story and don't mind having OT moments ruined, you can have that, but if you prefer to have those moments preserved, you can also be satisfied.  Here's how it would go down.  Episode I: Obi-Wan meets Anakin while on a dangerous mission.  Takes him as an apprentice at the end of movie.   Episode II:  Obi-Wan and Anakin are sent on different missions, separating for the first time since their meeting.  (not sure what either mission will be yet.)  While on his mission, Anakin becomes increasingly frustrated and angry that the soldiers put under his command do not take him seriously.  Eventually they become mutinous and he cuts them down.  Obi-Wan begins to hear tell of a Dark Jedi by the name of Darth Vader who has risen up and begun hunting down Jedi.  Eventually he discovers the horrible truth that the evil Darth Vader has murdered Anakin Skywalker.  In the end Obi-Wan confronts Vader (who wears some kind of mask to hide his true identity), but he gets away.  This is all set to the backdrop of Palpatine rising to power and manipulating the Senate into transforming the Republic into the Galactic Empire.    Now, if you would like the reveals of the OT preserved, you do not watch Episode III, but continue on to Episode IV, where you now have a good understanding of what happened before, but the shroud of mystery that surrounds Vader remains, if not then.... Episode III:  The Jedi have been exposed to mass genocide at the hands of Darth Vader and the Galactic Empire.  There are less than half the jedi left than there were before the dark times.  Obi-Wan, fueled by vengeance over the murder of his best friend, searches across the galaxy for the villainous Darth Vader.  At the end Obi-Wan and Darth Vader duel in a volcano, where Vader reveals to Obi-Wan the shocking truth.  He is Anakin Skywalker.  Eventually Obi-Wan knocks him into the volcano.  Presuming him dead, he leaves, grief stricken.  When Obi-Wan is gone Vader crawls his burned body out of the volcano, where he is rescued by Palpatine and put into the iconic suit and iron lung.  When the news that Vader survived reaches Obi-Wan and Yoda, all seems lost.  Until they discover that Anakin's wife (who has been pregnant since the end of Episode II) gave birth to twins, who have both survived.  The movie ends on a double edged tone.  Low due to the rise of the Empire, and high due to the survival of the twins, and that there is a new hope for the survival of the Jedi.   If you want the OT reveals preserved, but also want to see every movie, then you watch it in this order:  1,2,4,5,3,6.

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#645298
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Remake the Prequels
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I never thought of "You must confront Vader" as a right of passage.  I think Yoda just meant that Luke had to overcome his the fears and feelings that have been clouding his judgement before he could truly be a Jedi, and that Vader was a living embodiment of those fears and emotions.  By confronting Vader, he is confronting the conflict within himself, and only by doing so, can he truly be a Jedi.  It could also be interpreted in a less symbolic and more literal way by reasoning that Yoda meant that as long as Vader and the Emperor are in power, the Jedi would never rise again.  I prefer the metaphorical, symbolic interpretation, though.

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#645106
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Remake the Prequels
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Random idea sharing time.   I decided to watch the Star Wars trilogy the other day for inspiration/ideas and one of the things that struck me this time around was how Obi-Wan describes Jedi.  He said "I was once a Jedi Knight the same as your father."  Then in Empire he says "There you will learn from Yoda, the Jedi Master who instructed me."  Rather than just saying "Jedi"  he specifies "Knight"  or "Master"  This doesn't strike me as a difference in rank, more a difference in type. I look to Christianity to explain what I mean.  To me, Jedi Knights would be the equivalent of, well, knights.  Jedi Masters to me are the equivalent of monks, or priests.  They all belong to the same religion, but do different things.  I'm thinking of having the Jedi culture be quite similar to this.  Jedi Masters are priests and scholars, trying to uncover the secrets and mysteries of the Force.  The Knights use the Force to protect the Galaxy from evils.  It is the Masters' jobs to train the Knights.  The knights do not train each other.  This makes for an extremely unusual request when Obi-Wan asks to train Anakin.  They finally arrive at the Jedi Temple after their Episode I adventures.  Obi-Wan goes before the council of Masters to request Anakin be trained.  Yoda and the masters can express their unwillingness to train Anakin due to his fear and anger similarly to in TPM.  Obi-Wan then requests that he may train Anakin.  Yoda, after much deliberation, allows it, thinking that perhaps Anakin's unusual abilities may benefit from less than normal training.  This would be the first time a knight has trained another knight in the history of the Jedi Order.  "I thought I could instruct him as well as Yoda.  I was wrong."  We then end Episode I with some kind of Jedi initiation ceremony, whereby Anakin swears allegiance to the Jedi, and Obi-Wan gives him the name Skywalker.

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#644686
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Remake the Prequels
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To me, Obi-Wan's character arc is fully explained in the OT.  "You are reckless."  "So was I, if you remember."   Obi-Wan starts out as a kind of hot-headed jedi who lets his feelings get the better of him, similar to Luke running away from his training after getting the vision of Han and Leia.  He jumps into training Anakin without much thought because he is emotionally attached to Anakin and wants him to succeed, without thinking of the consequences.  Over the course of the story Obi-Wan shifts from the hot-headed young Jedi to the wise man we meet in ANH.  How exactly that happens.  Well I haven't completely worked that out yet.

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#644204
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Remake the Prequels
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If someone decides to actually take up this project, I would leave that up to them.  As much as I would love to go out and direct something like this, my busy life as a student would make it difficult to impossible.  I'll stick to writing for now and let someone else worry about how to make it look good.  XD  I would assume it would not result in a trip to Tunisia though, but then again, you never know.

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#644149
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Remake the Prequels
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To me, Mos Eisley has to play some kind of role in it.  In ANH Ben says "Mos Eisley space port.  You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." and "Most of the best freighter pilots can be found here."  But it was also established that Ben couldn't get there on his ow.  He needed Luke to take him there in his speeder.  And once he arrived on Tatooine, he never left, so how did he know that you could find "the best freighter pilots" at the cantina? To me the only way he would know what Mos Eisley and the cantina was like in that amount of detail would be that he had been there years before.   Also, completely unrelated: I've been thinking about making Anakin's ship the Millenium Falcon.  Although, I'm not sure if that would be too "putting in references just because I can-ish."  In ANH Han says "You've never heard of the Millenium Falcon."  and it always seemed kind of tongue and cheek to me the way Ben says "Should I have?"  I don't know, I think it would be kind of cool.  What do you all think?

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#644135
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Remake the Prequels
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You see, I personally don't have an issue with Luke and Anakin's journeys beginning the same way.  I'm torn on the whole protagonist issue.  On the one hand, Obi-Wan as the protagonist would better lead into the OT without ruining the mystery of Vader, however Anakin as a protagonist just seems more interesting to me.  I've pretty much decided I'm going to do a re-write, and I'm thinking right now that they would both kind of share the role of protagonist, but then that was a big problem of the Lucas prequels.  There wasn't a clear protagonist.  So I'm torn.   The idea of it ending with the meeting of Obi-Wan and Anakin intrigues me.  It could be a good story without ruining any of the key moments of the OT.  But, at the same time I can't help but feel like we'd be missing a huge part of the overall story.  I mean, when it all comes down to it, you should be able to go from one chapter of the story to the next without feeling like you've missed anything of major importance.  To have Obi-Wan be this triumphant hero and then all of a sudden he's some old hermit on Tatooine and the Jedi are extinct and there's some kid named Luke and Obi-Wan's new friend Anakin is nowhere to be found.  To me it just seems like it would be too jarring and take you out of the story.  In my mind it should just be assumed that people are watching them in release order and that anyone watching in chronological order has already seen the OT.  It's an interesting idea that I won't completely dismiss yet, but I'm not 100% on it.

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#644066
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Remake the Prequels
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Basically, here's how I see the beginning of Episode I:  Obi-Wan, on some sort of mission vital to the cause of the first Clone War, crash lands on Tatooine.  Ship ruined, he goes to the nearby town of Mos Eisley and enters the Cantina to look for a pilot who will transport him.  He meets Willhuff Tarkin who introduces him to Anakin Lars, who, needing money, agrees to transport him.  He takes Obi-Wan back to the moisture farm, where Owen talks Anakin out of it.  "Why on earth would you transport a crazy Jedi on some damn fool-idealistic crusade?"  However, he agrees to let Obi-Wan take shelter there for the night, but tomorrow he must go back into town and make other arrangements.   Staring out at the binary sunset, Obi-Wan tells Anakin of the Jedi, how his real name is Ben Kenobi, and that Obi-Wan was the name given to him by his master, a wise, centuries-old Jedi Master called Yoda (only mentioned, never seen).  Inspired by tales of adventure beyond the dusty plains of Tatooine, he sneaks off in the middle of the night with the Jedi, leaving nothing but a note for Owen promising to return, meets up with Tarkin (his first mate) and gets in his awesome ship to be named at a later date, heading off to go on adventures and awesomeness, ultimately joining the Jedi Order, getting the name Skywalker, betraying the Jedi, and becoming Darth Vader.

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#644059
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Remake the Prequels
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As for Anakin's parentage, I always imagined that Anakin and Owens' parents had died in some accident and they were left to fend for themselves.  They bought a moisture farm and Anakin bought a ship and got into the spice trade.  "He was a navigator on a spice freighter." being not a total lie, just not the whole truth.  I always figured Vader just wouldn't go back to Tatooine because it's a place of pain for him, a reminder of who he was before he became Vader, which is what he wants to forget.

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#644057
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Remake the Prequels
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NeverarGreat said:

Nobody seems to recognize the name Skywalker in the OT. Even Leia, who knows the history of Obi-wan Kenobi, doesn't seem to understand the significance of Luke's name. Lando is totally ignorant of it as well, and he may have been around 20 years old at the time of Anakin's fall (though I think that the time of his fall should be pushed back at least ten to fifteen years in this rewrite). This seems to suggest that Skywalker was not a well-known name in the galaxy, or at least people didn't attach significance to it. I'm guessing that Anakin Skywalker is the name that his parents gave him, because I doubt that Anakin would be a name chosen by him as a Jedi title. Remember also that according to ANH, Anakin was not a Jedi when he left Obi-wan, so Obi-wan could not have given him any Jedi name.

Given that the Jedi themselves have slipped into myth, I think it would be safe to assume that the names of the Jedi themselves would also have fallen out of general knowledge.  Not to mention Vader himself would have wanted the name Anakin Skywalker to be eliminated from all knowledge.  And I'm not sure what you meant by Anakin not having been a Jedi when he left Obi-Wan.  Even though Darth Vader says "When I left you I was but the learner."  I don't think this negates the idea of him having a Jedi name.  Even if he wasn't considered a full Jedi at the time, he would still have been a member of the order.  Also, in ANH Obi-Wan, when telling Luke how his father died says, "A young Jedi named Darth Vader."  So, when Vader says "I was but the learner." I think he was just referring to him being less skilled than Obi-Wan at the time, but that now he was stronger.