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#1494380
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Do these missing scenes actually exist?
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I read the following article many years ago, there are some interesting mentions about an early trailer for ROTJ:

http://webspace.webring.com/people/au/um_7143/lost_sw.txt

Quote: “There is at least one more “early ROTJ” trailer then what was included on [Definitive Collection] discs, one shown during a re-release of “Star Wars” between the release of “TESB” and “ROTJ.” It featured a glowing chain around Vader’s neck (possibly just highly reflective) and had Vader and Luke within some kind of ancient Greek-like structure. [I saw it] as part of a tape with various “SW” related items on it. Until then all I had was a [memory of seeing it] with my parents just before a re-release of “SW” (I wish I could remember the date, or for that matter the year). It’s one of the few memories I have of seeing “Star Wars” in theaters that hasn’t been corrupted by time on the Internet (i.e., “Hey, I think I remember that scene too…” variety) It must have been pretty darn rare, as I have yet to see anyone else mention it.”

Also remember reading an article either in 1993 or 1994, in a german scifi, horror and fantasy movie magazine named Moviestar that there is a cut scene in ESB with Luke fighting inside an AT-AT during the battle of Hoth and that footage about Leia and Han’s wedding was filmed for ROTJ.

Wonder if there is actually some truth about these claims and if these things may actually lay still undiscovered in the archives of Lucasfilm.

Maybe like it was the case with the rough cut for Star Wars…

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#1486468
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Why was Luke so impressed when he saw Mos Eisley for the first time? Anchorhead doesn't seem to be much smaller...
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Tobar said:

Anchorhead looks impressive at first glance in that still but if you take a close look it also captures the full length of it. It’s still a small town compared to Mos Eisley which houses at minimum 94 large docking bays. In the old EU Mos Eisley had 362 such docking bays and it’s probably the same in the new canon. That’s a much larger scale than any depiction of Anchorhead could support.

Good point. The issue of the docking bays reminded me strongly on the technical manual for Tatooine. One of my favorite star wars books as a teen.

By the way it’s actually quite funny that Mos Eisley, as it appeared in the OOT, before the special edition changes, looked to be either to have the same size as the version of Anchorhead from Kenobi or was even smaller.

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#1486447
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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idir_hh said:

The giant fish in the middle of the desert makes 0 sense to me. If this is a supposed remnant of ancient Tatooine’s oceans it’s absurd that it would remain intact as a skeleton , let alone fresh meat!

Looked like a Thranta. According to Legends, they seem to be living on Alderaan and Bespin.

Wonder how this specimen ended up on Tatooine…

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#1470410
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The weapons that turned Owen and Beru into skeletons were (at least originally meant to be) stormtrooper blasters
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I think the same. Perhaps they cost too much energy in normal battle situations to use, especially since the average setting is deadly enough.

Could be that the Stormies used it on the Lars farm, because they got the situation under control, there was no danger for them and to destroy the complex.

Not to speak of sending a message.

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#1469763
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The weapons that turned Owen and Beru into skeletons were (at least originally meant to be) stormtrooper blasters
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Mocata said:

Han’s blaster in the original movie is wildly inconsistent, from Greedo’s death to the massive explosions on the hangar bay walls. As for Uncle Owen, I always assumed they just started a fire to cover their tracks.

Yes, that’s true. But to come to your second point, in this case, why wouldn’t they have simply burnt the Jawas like the homestead with Owen and Beru?

Dropping the pretense of Sandpeople being responsible for the killings, when they arrived and decided to destroy the moisture farm, makes no sense in the situation.

That’s another reason why i think they kept the charade alive.

And Sandpeople apparently only were meant to use blasters and gaffi sticks during their raids and don’t care about the condition of the corpses of the people they killed at all.

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#1469556
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The weapons that turned Owen and Beru into skeletons were (at least originally meant to be) stormtrooper blasters
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Considering that the attack on the homestead was meant to look like being the work of the Tusken, who neither own nor use flamethrowers and especially not disintegrators, and we don’t see both kind of weapons in the Sandtroopers arsenal for this mission, the most likely weapon that caused the condition of Owen and Beru’s corpses are blasters.

Blasters were shown to be able to turn people into charred corpses a short time later in ANH, when we see Han shoot Greedo in the Mos Eisley cantina. Perhaps another reason for this scene, beside giving him a reason to travel with Obi Wan and Luke to Alderaan.

And why would Sandtroopers, trying to imitate a Tusken raid, give their victims a funeral? We never seen or heard about them doing this anywhere.

And simply burning along with the homestead also doesn’t make sense, because the corpses lay outside and not in one of the destroyed rooms of the moisture farm.

And people often forget that George hadn’t the idea of stormtroopes using thermal detonators, flamethrowers or disintegrators when he made ANH or at least didn’t introduced them at this point. The only hand weapons we see anyone use in the movie are blasters, gaffi sticks and lightsabers.

So i think highly powered blaster fire from more than one Stormtrooper was the most likely cause for Owen and Beru Lars becoming charred skeletons.

At least that was most likely the reason George Lucas had in mind, when he created the first movie.

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#1468247
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What would have Episode V and VI have become like if George Lucas used the unrevised fourth draft for Star Wars?
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And how much influence would it have had on the PT?

How different would these movies have been in this case? Would Lucas ever had created Yoda, if Obi Wan didn’t die and would the Jedi have become the bureocratic order we have seen in the prequels?

Would Star Wars ever have become as succesful as it has and would the second and the third movie actually have any kind of resemblance to ESB and ROTJ?

How much impact on the progressing story would this decission have had?

http://www.starwarz.com/starkiller/star-wars-the-adventures-of-luke-starkiller-as-taken-from-the-journal-of-the-whills/

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#1468109
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I remember seeing the scene of the Probot killing the Wampa, around 1993, on video tape
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@johann-500: Thank you.

Could be. But i watched this edition of the movie quite often back then before the SE was released.

I skipped the THX edition, because i didn’t knew that Lucas tinkered around with the trilogy all the time. Oh was i naive 😂

Wish i kept my tapes, but who could have thought that George would only release (edited) SE versions after 1997, with one exception.

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#1467948
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I remember seeing the scene of the Probot killing the Wampa, around 1993, on video tape
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Hi, long time lurker and first time poster here! Have a question about ESB. Maybe there are people who have had a similar experience:

Got ESB on video around 1993, it was the official german widescreen edition, and remember this clearly. Must be a false memory, because i read the novelization around the same time. But what’s strange and i can’t get my head around that, is that what i remember is kind of different in the details. Or could there have been more editions that aren’t listed at wookieepedia?

In the novel the Wampa is destroyed by a continuous beam of the Probot, while i remember it exploding and turning to cinder after one big powerful blaster hit. The scorched bones were seen burning in the snow according to my memory.

Alas i can’t check the tape anymore, because i sold it a long time ago, but i still wonder why i remember this so vividly.

Anyone else remembering seeing this scene in the movie?