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#597851
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team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (Released)
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@-1: I thank you for the reply. With regards to video bitrate and such I understand where you are coming from. I personally prefer higher bitrates but I understand if you must not push them too far to keep filesizes down. Also I can certainly understand if doing a 50GB version would more expensive like you said with the cost of blanks and needing a dual-layer burner. If nothing else I thought you might do a 25GB version burnable to Blu-Ray and then do a 50GB .mkv version for those that would just keep the file on their computer/server and would welcome the extra bitrate and such. Either way though I do understand you decision.

With regards to the audio my preference of lossless audio isn't so much about pushing the audio to be something more it's more about being all it can be. I mean look at music files. You have .flac files and .mp3 files. If you make a .flac rip of a CD you know that those files are going to sound about as good they can. However if you go with .mp3 you are compressing the audio and you might lose some of the highs and lows of the music, especially if don't use a high bitrate like 320kbps and rather something low like 128kpbs. My main point is that by using a lossless codec you are taking the raw source and while maintaining its quality you're losslessly compressing it to save space. Where as if you go with Dolby Digital you are compressing the raw source in such a way that it could cut out some of the finer points in the track, if you get what I am saying.

I mean I'm not sure what the raw format of the audio is and in fact I'm not even sure how you convert the audio from a 35mm film reel to a digital file. I would imagine though however you do it the resulting digital files are probably .wav. Once you are finished editing these raw .wav files (depending on which program you are using) you could easily save them as a lossless .flac file or whatever the format for TrueHD/DTS-HD Master Audio is.

 

One more thing, when you say you are considering uploading the raw files, what does that mean? Does that mean you'll upload the raw files as they were when you first scanned them in or as they would be after you've made all the edits and clean up and such?

 

Oh and last thing, I keep seeing the acronym GOUT, but I'm not entirely sure what it means. All I can gather without searching real hard is that GOUT is a standard of what these fan edits are in relation to the original unaltered theatricals, I think?

 

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#597819
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team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (Released)
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Hello there, been lurking for a while, so I decide to join and post. I've been excited about a proper HD remaster of the original star wars trilogy ever since I got my first HDTV and saw just how beautiful HD content can look. I remember a few years back being all excited about Wookiegroomer's work. I much enjoy his work that was until I found out my copy of episode V became corrupt somehow and despite all my efforts I couldn't reacquire it. Those efforts though led me to this forum where at that time nobody else's work seemed to rival that of Wookiegroomer's. So I just moved on. Then I found out Star Wars would be getting a Blu-Ray release, unfortunately those releases would be altered like crazy. So I came back here hoping someone might take those Blu-Rays keep the good lossless audio and just undo all the  bad things Lucas had done to the films. Nobody was doing this however. More recently though I discovered this work-in-progress and am now excited again.

 

Everything I've read in this thread and the original thread all has me eagerly anticipating the release. I do have a couple questions though and if these are better suited for the other thread we can move the discussion there. Before I get to my questions though I just want to add that Wookiegroomer's work excited me because his work was the first serious full (1080p) HD release of all 6 Star Wars movies. Plus his work tried to make the movies look and be more like the originals. Also, then the Blu-Ray releases excited me a little because I thought maybe then we could get HD originals NOW with lossless audio (mostly). Point is I'm big on image quality and having good sound.

 

So my questions are as follows. In the OP you say you'll be doing 25GB (mkv and burnable to Blu-Ray) releases but given that most commercial Blu-Ray releases today use 50GB discs is there any chance you might reconsider you position and go with a nice high quality release that would be suited for a 50GB Blu-Ray disc? Other question is in regards to the audio. Will it be lossless (and lpcm would be fine if using TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio isn't an option), that is if it can even be lossless? I know Dolby Digital is kind of a go to standard for sound but I just think if you're going to go the extra mile in terms of image quality why not do so with the sound quality? I mean I know some people out there have really great sound systems so the better the sound can be the more I know those kind of people as well as everyone else will be more than satisfied. 

 

That's all I have for now. Oh and by the way I did check out that 1080p trailer you made. It is a little rough but I definitely love what I am seeing to so far.