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#746907
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Ok I've been biting my tongue with you but can't anymore durawhatever "Do they call you anything besides STUPID ?"

Of Corse the books are still around but WHO WANTS TO READ THE SAME BOOKS OVER & OVER AGAIN you twit ? The EU story has ended and was erased and is DONE, FINISHED, OVER. Because that's what King George decided after taking the money from the books profit for years.

No Timothy Zahn "CAN NOT" wright more new books in the Star WARS EU galaxy ! There's a little thing called licensing "you have to have permission". If he dose it without permission his ass will be in court faster than a Manhattan minute trust me.

DUH REALLY !! Their Fiction ????? We all thought it was REAL . My God you really need to put the crack pipe down!!!!!!!!!

It dose mean a "goddamn thing" because as I said before the EU story as we knew it ended with out a end of some sorts, right in the middle of the story. The last Book the "Crucible by Troy Denning" left us hanging and that's how it will be, its DONE. Its like when they end a TV series without ending it, it sucks !! Will we live and move on "of course we will" but we still feel cheated after supporting them after all these years with our hard earned money & time. 

Not sure how old you are durawhatever but maybe someday when you grow up you might just comprehend why it pisses us off. I've already moved on, but I just couldn't take the fu#$ing stupid shit you were saying anymore you dumb shit !!! 

Hey Pancakes told you ! ;) Now I'm done and  "I feel much better" LOL 

I got my answer and I'm gone. I'm sure that makes durawhatever happy LMAO  

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#746750
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DominicCobb said:

They "could" have made a film that fit within the EU, but that would have provided a whole host of limitations. From what little we know about TFA it's already clear that they're diverging greatly from the EU.

Dropping the EU means more creative freedom and letting the filmmakers tell the story they want to tell. Is that story a good one? We can't say until Dec. 18th.

What I do know is that I don't know anything, and I think that's fantastic. There's a mystery to it all now. What's happened since ROTJ? What's going to happen? Nixing the EU opens the universe up to millions of possibilities. The excitement and wonder of seeing a new and unknown Star Wars film is back for the first time in 32 years. That certainly makes it all worth it.

 Well some of us enjoyed the books of the EU as much if not more than the movies. I fall into that myself saw the first Star Wars opening week in 1977 ok. George add two movies in 6 yrs then nothing for 16 yrs and then nothing till the prequel 1999 again 2 more in 6 yrs. It has now been 10 years since the last movie right ?.

Who do you think kept Star Wars alive all those yrs in-between the movies ?

We did the book & the comic readers I will add the gamers also. I will bet if it wasn't for all of those I stated Star Wars would have faded away like Buck Rodgers. The only thing that saved Star Trek was syndication and Star War didn't even have that except for the few times its shown on syfi a yr.

Believe what you want things only stick around if there's interest in it and we the readers are responsible for a major part of that, like it or not to the nay Sayers. Facts don't lie follow the money and the sales of books add up. I've invested 38 yrs into the Star Wars franchise and I'm not the only one, there's thousands of others just like me and George took our money with a smile I'm sure. This is were the betrayal lies in our opinion.    

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#746712
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Fang Zei said:

To address several points brought up in this thread,

I think George should've taken a more supervisory role in the EU, rather than simply handing it off and watching the dollars flow in. It's clear that the idea of continuing the story through books was thought up in order to help Lucasfilm build itself up again financially in the early 90's. Make no mistake, they said it was the "official" continuation, which kinda makes George's statements to the contrary all the more annoying.

George needed a way of making money for the company, and the books provided that. He was too obsessed with getting the PT made to bother with the post-RotJ timeline, especially when it was already making that much money without his involvement. Besides, maybe he really did consider RotJ "the end" and thought there would never be an Ep7. He did condense the original plan for episodes 6 through 9 into just one movie, so this is kinda true anyway.

What would've been ideal is George stepping back and being the over-arching supervisor of everything, writing the story outline for the PT and the post-Jedi EU but letting other screenwriters, directors and authors fill in the details. Instead he was hyper-focused on the PT and paid little attention to anything else.

As for the PT somehow ruining the EU, I don't get the argument here. There was barely any EU there to ruin, unless you're referring to the stuff brought up in the Thrawn books. GL specifically mandated early on that no EU stories be set within that timeframe. It's a far cry from the mountains of post-RotJ material that now no longer happened.

Oh, and the ST didn't "need" to be set 30 years later. They could've set Ep7 at the 40 years later point that the books were up to. Ben Skywalker was almost 20 years old IIRC. That actually would've made a good starting point for a new series of movies. Also, they wouldn't have needed to bring up whatever's transpired in the 40 years since Jedi. They could've figured out a way to tell an original story that also happens to take place at that point in the timeline. They would've had three whole years to "build up" to it in the EU anyway.

 Thank you, this is what I was pretty much trying to say, esp because Luke and the rest are old now "have you seen Mark & Carrie lately ?" it would have worked fine and makes sense and still have the extra profit from the books & comics. George would never step back he's to egotistical to let go, its that self importance thing all the big names in Hollywood seem have. Although there are a few that don't belong in that category "Robin Williams was one of the nicest guys I ever met" but they are far and few between. 

As for the comment in another post that "George washed his hands of the EU in 1999" really ? I've purchased many many books since then "1999" and I'm sure George cashed all the checks he got from them , the only washing of his hands came after touching and counting all that dirty money he got !!!

Like I said this horse is dead and the buzzards have picked it clean to the bone no sense arguing about it , we don't have the say to do anything about what they do "they own it".

I will end with "piss on the both of them Lucas and Disney" they let me down after all these yrs.

"With my last dying breath I spit at thee" Over dramatic ? LOL

 

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#746512
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First I wasn't being a dick I was joking with you about the grass, sorry if you cant handle it, didn't mean to hurt your feelings hoss . But I can be a real big dick if you like ?

Second you missed the point, but there is no sense beating this dead horse anymore it's done, Disney and George has seen to that.

I'm pissed about their decision and that's that nothing I can do about it but move on. I'll start reading other books instead & give my money to someone else since they don't want it.

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#746496
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To me it bought reality to the story did I like it "NO of course". Only in the movies can the good guys never die and shoot a thousand times out of a six shooter without reloading. I believe it was needed just how many times can you cheat death and keep it believable "ok its Star Wars but you know what I mean". I truly think it helped the story and all the ones that followed. Its called life and it made the Star Wars story believable and more human so to speak.

Everyone has the right to their opinion though and while we may not agree we still loved the Star Wars story in general. I always believed it was stupid for Obi-Wan to die in the first one it really served no purpose in my opinion.

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#746490
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REALLY !!!! You don't believe its about the $$$$$$ Eric ? What's the color of the grass in your little galaxy. Its always about the money !! If its not about the money why did the CEO of Disney get fired after "John Carter", which I enjoyed actually, even though it was vastly different than the book "The Princess of Mars" ? I go to movies for entertainment I don't care if they follow the books, very few films do in actuality.

If King George didn't like the books & the story why did he let them continue ? Answer : $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 

There is no other answer "sorry Eric but its the truth".

I understand Disney's point of view to a point . But why not just let them go and ignore the books like Star Trek did and still dose ? Like you stated a lot of people didn't read the books so what's the big deal ? My wife has never read one book of Star Wars, so it would make no difference what the movies did at all "she will enjoy the movie as I will". Yes I'll still go I saw the first and I will see the last if I live long enough. I believe Disney made a bad business move here they could have, just as George did "take the money and run to the bank" they need to get some of the money back from John Carter LOL.

Think about it the movies cost millions upon millions to make and yes they make the same, plus more back. But the EU books were cost effective didn't cost millions to make but made millions in return. But its over and that's that there's no sense arguing about it, we have no say in it. May the force be with you my friend ;).

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#746486
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Hey Russ thanks for the thread I hadn't seen it before.

Everyone has to remember that King George said that there would be no more movies after the last one, so the EU was all we pretty much had to continue the story. I think it is ridicules for Disney to act like it the EU never happened.

May Disney suffer a 1000 years in the belly of a Sarlacc  for stopping the story of the EU. 

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#746483
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That's a matter of opinion DE , I enjoyed the books MORE than the movies to be honest. While I LOVED all the movies the books gave me years many more years of life in the Star Wars galaxy and enjoyment.

This dose take some of the steam out of me for the up coming movies "not sure how old you are DE but I was in the theater in 1977 watching the first movie at the age of 19" and I've been there since the beginning. I even got my son hooked when he was 3 and wore out the VCR tapes of the first 3 movies many times before DVD came out.

This is like getting hit in the balls by a force kick to me  and I'm not happy at all "pi$$ on Disney". Old George might not have like the books but he sure took the money from them didn't he & Disney could have done the same and let us and all the great writers of the books enjoy the Galaxy far far away. But its not about us its all about the $$$$$$$$$ isn't it. 

As for Chewy still living, the books did it right you cant go on fighting and not loose close friends its just the way battle is some must die. It was his time, & saving his best friends children, what a way to go "A Hero and being in the right place at the right time for his friends" . Its how it should be and the only way for Chewbacca to go "what more would he have wanted ?" !!!

I guess I'm done reading Star Wars books for good after 30 + years. I,ve read every book "except for the comics just not my thing" with the exception of Tarken and I wont be reading it now no sense in it as far as I'm concerned. I feel as though I lost a close friend as stupid as it sounds, I looked forward for every new release of the next book. Now its time for the withdraw to start LOL  

I'd like thank all of you for your reply's and letting me know about the demise of the books "as much as I hated hearing it".

Again Thank You, DJW