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- Song Of The South [35mm Restoration V3] (a WIP)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1524044/action/topic#1524044
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So based on those screen grabs seems there’s more imagine on the left for Thunderbean, but LESS image on the right and corners. Weird.
But do corners mean the entire film is scanned? Or do corners mean it is cropped?
On Cartoon Chaos they just added this: Song of the South 1946 [Thunderbean BD25]
This is a newer scan (2022) from a 35mm IB Technicolor print by Thunderbean. It restores a segment that was missing from the previous scan that is around.
What previous segment are they talking about that is missing?
I’m interested in these with original music.
Yea there’s a 16mm version that’s a small filesize (which is on myspleen), whether or not that’s the one on either the stinkytuna blu reviewed on youtube or the “2021 version” DVD is anybody’s guess.
The “2021 version” DVD can’t possibly be better than Notelu V2 on archive since it’s DVD sized (whatever version they may have used for it).
The stinkytuna blu is described as the Japanese laserdisc by the youtube review (though seems odd given that there are no burnt in subs during songs) and is described as a “16mm film print” on the songofthesouth.net review. A good guess is that it’s not better than Notelu V2.
I guarantee that’s probably Notelu’s version they obtained and just said its their own.
That’s what I was thinking. Buy why put it on a DVD not a blu?
And we still don’t know the source of that Japanese blu reviewed on youtube.
It could have been an upscaled and color corrected japanese laserdisc, but it does not make much sense because it has no japanese subtitles.
Japanese VHD maybe? https://songofthesouth.net/memorabilia/detail.php?id=382
I also found this “2021 version” on facebook marketplace.
Disney SONG OF THE SOUTH DVD BEST QUALITY ALL NEW 2021 VERSION! CRYSTAL CLEAR READ DESCRIPTION
BRAND NEW DVD - FREE SHIPPING
IF THE AD IS UP IT’S AVAILABLE (No need to send “Is this available” messages because it is)
This is it folks!! The absolute BEST, CLEAREST, SHARPEST version of the movie ever available!!
This is an ALL NEW direct transfer from a studio 35mm Print with some clean up and restoration done!! The end result is video quality comparable to a decent studio released DVD.
This IS NOT from the UK VHS Source
This IS NOT from the Japan Laserdisc
This IS NOT from the one time UK Broadcast in 2006
Don’t be fooled by others claiming they are selling HD copies of the movie… they are NOT, that’s a lie… true HD quality will never exist for this film BUT, this DVD is the absolute HIGHEST QUALITY transfer of the film that has ever existed and MILES ABOVE EVERY OTHER VERSION OUT THERE!!
Answers to your questions:
I have already bought an older version from you can I exchange it for this one?
NO, BUT I will offer discounts to upgrade to this newer version, if you would like to upgrade a past purchase you made from ME go to your ORDERS section, find the order you placed with me and message me THROUGH THAT ORDER, if you request to upgrade without going through your original order it will be ignored, there are multiple sellers of the movie on here, I do not offer upgrade discounts for purchases made from other sellers.
Yes it in English
No there are no subtitles
Yes it’s the complete movie unedited
Yes it will work in USA DVD players
Yes it’s Available
Are there special features for this DVD?
No, sadly this DVD comes with no extras, it’s movie only… if you desire a decent watchable DVD with extra features look at my other items and purchase the old version, this DVD is for those who want the movie in as close to perfect quality that will ever be.
No it’s never been “Banned” that’s a myth, the choice to no longer support it by the studio was exactly that… a choice.
How did you get this DVD?
75 years ago this film was released, 75 years is the magic number for 99% of the countries in the world for rights to expire, thus this film is now Public Domain in 99% of the world, it’s sourced from outside of the USA.
New and Unused, Sealed DVD
Original 1946 Full Length Uncut Movie
94 Minutes Running Time
Region 0 for use World-Wide
1:33:1 Full Screen
Audio: English, Mono 2.0
No subtitles, No Closed Captioning
Format NTSC (USA) DVD (DVDR)
Song of the South is a blend of live action and animation, based on the popular “Uncle Remus” stories of Joel Chandler Harris. Set in the years just after the Civil War, the story begins with young Johnny (Bobby Driscoll) being sent to live at the southern plantation of his grandmother (Lucile Watson) while his parents contemplate divorce. At first disconsolate, the boy is cheered up by African-American handyman Uncle Remus (James Baskett), who tells him many delightful fables concerning the clever trickster Br’er Rabbit, whose adventures are illustrated in cartoon form. Each story has a moral, which Johnny applies to the exigencies of his real life. Johnny’s mother (Ruth Warrick) disapproves of Uncle Remus, and orders the boy never to visit the kindly old black man again. Uncle Remus packs his bags and leaves; while chasing after him, Johnny is injured by a bull. He recovers thanks to the friendly presence of Uncle Remus, and all is forgiven. The film was awarded the Best Song Oscar for “Zip-a-dee Doo Dah,” and James Baskett won a special Oscar for his portrayal of Uncle Remus.
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I don’t think it is the Japanese laserdisc. As seen in the TV capture in the same review, the colors are quite different from the LD. I have seen this review and from what I remember they did mention the LD, but they did not say that it was the video source used for the Blu-Ray.
In the video they say it is, but they could also be wrong. As for color, whatever company that made it could have made adjustments.
It seems that blu is basically the Japanese laserdisc transferred to blu.
Here is a youtube review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OwG6myBVOY
And it is technically not a bootleg since it’s made in Japan where the movie is public domain.
Though the Japanese laserdisc actually had burnt in subtitles during songs. So I wonder how this version is subtitle free?
V2 is definitely no laserdisc.
As far as I know [V2] Notelu’s Song Of The South Restoration is the best version of Song of the South that exists for the masses.
Now supposedly we have that songofthesouth.net blu which is different, and we have a V3 Notelu. But I have seen no evidence of either yet.
The 4K restoration is an upscale,
That’s what I figured when I skimmed it.
There were many fan made Blu Rays of Song of the South, some might be just a copy of V2. But the one that I am talking about is, as far as I know, a seperate restoration: https://www.songofthesouth.net/news/2020/11/12/song-of-the-south-turns-74-blu-rays-abound/
I wish we had access to this blu.
I really hope this is put “out there” when done.
Does this release have the Bhagavad Gita part?
The uncensored audio has been ripped from the DTS discs and synced up to the UHD.
Great!
I’m looking on archive.org
There’s
[V2] Notelu’s Song Of The South Restoration
This is regarded as the best version out there. Added on there in 2018.
I also see
Song Of The South (4K Restoration)
Added in 2021. But honestly looks inferior to the V2 Notelu at least in terms of color. And may even be in upscale I don’t know.
Am I missing another better version?
Wonderful PM I got on myspleen:
Hey, I just wanted to personally thank you for posting the 35mm restoration of Fantasia. My grandfather worked on the original 1940 movie when he was 13, The Sorcerer’s Apprentice part to be exact, and he is still alive with my grandmother. I am going to send this restoration to him. We have a special bonding over talking about classic movies/animation, and I would love for him to see this as this is the most faithful restoration of Fantasia you could find. He hasn’t seen the original version in a long, long time, and he probably never thought he would see it again.
I was reading DVD compare and came across this note:
Note that on ALL releases Warner made sure the soundtrack of the film was changed prior to home video/DVD releases. Also >- the intoning of a section of the Bhagavad Gita during the orgy sequence was replaced by other music.
Does this release have the Bhagavad Gita part?
What’s been edited from the Little Mermaid? All I know of is the knee that looks like an erection.
There’s a lot more subliminal nastiness in The Little Mermaid, it’s to the point that I encourage children not to watch it.
Please elaborate.
The entire scene with Baccus being pulled up the steps to his chair and then falling back down to the dance party is missing from the Kostal soundtrack
Oh wow I didn’t know that.
I guess there can’t technically be an “uncensored” Kostal version, since this was how the Kostal version was released.
But Kostal isn’t a valid version of Fantasia regardless. It’s cool it’s seemingly restored and preserved on archive.org for anyone who might enjoy it or has memories from watching it in the theater. But it will never truly be Fantasia. Personally I can’t see myself ever giving it a view.
What’s been edited from the Little Mermaid? All I know of is the knee that looks like an erection.
V3 isn’t anywhere.
Interesting video. Cosby Show cast singing a rendition of Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah for a Walt Disney World commercial:
This one is now up on archive.org
For those interested it seems someone restored the Kostal version and uploaded it to archive.org. Just google “fantasia Kostal” and it will be in the top results.
@Class316 saw that too! It’s definitely a very cool project. Though it is totally separate from this, which is a 35mm scan.
I’m now in correspondence with gweedo16 about this scan. 😃
That’s awesome!