I recall seeing this on TV decades ago and it ending in OHMSS. Could be wrong though.
Full remux would be best I think, can you chuck it on google drive or mega?
Sorry, read with a lighter tone. Thanks to everyone who took time to watch.
That is interesting i did not know it had been release. Yes very interested.
Also all you previewers were terrible. All but one of you missed a really big grading error.
The air taxi scene has also been rerendered for bluray, interestingly. Take a look when they are sitting in the air taxi, everyone is rearranged.
Likely re-rendered for the 3D conversion. Or maybe they grabbed the wrong filmout file?
Would be great to have that released on bluray one day. Although i doubt it will due to it being a failed project.
I think whats on there is better preserved on laserdisc. I’d keep what you have sealed.
This looks interesting ZigZig. I’m trying to get my final render out but the christmas period has left me with little time, if you have anything you want to contribute before i hit that button that would be much appreciated.
Charles Threepio said:
Apparently, Fanres.com is too damn bigoted against people like me with brains so big they don’t know what to do with them, so I’ve given up on them.
Oh no, please don’t bring this nonsense here. Your threads were removed for good reason. 2 Years of spamming vaporware projects with nothing to show for it.
These KTP collections are so absurdly broad and ambitions but with zero details of what you plan to do or how to do it. We don’t need these here.
A 3D film im dying to see again is Encounter in the Third Dimension An imax film from 1999. I recall watching this as preteen back in the day on a full size imax screen and it blowing me away. Since then I’ve been able to identify it on one of two 3D DVD formats, the superior of which is simply impossible to find. I also believe It was broadcast in HD 3DTV back in the days where that was a thing. I’d simply love to get a HD SBS version of this in HD.
Yes, the 2.0 is synced and included too.
Now that phantom menace is all but finished ill surely be working on it more. I’m looking for more NTSC DVDs as the ones i have are crummy PAL ones.
Ah, fair enough. Is the AC3 from the LD the same 1999 theatrical mix, or is it a home video “near-field” mix?
I think that the AC3 from the LD is exactly the theatrical Dolby mix and not a nearfield mix. Chewie, do you have other information about it?
All I can say is when I had both of them lined up in Premiere I could see differences in Dynamic range by comparing waveforms. It looked to me like the LD audio could have been tweaked slightly for Home viewing which would make sense to me.
Or there could have been differences in the Dolby mix and the AC3 mix on the negative itself. I’m not sure.
I’ve just finished what I hope to be the final render of this project. New grading, improved missing scenes, better encoding.
Im still not 100% on which audio should be default, the Cinema DTS or the nearfield mix from the Laserdisc, both sound real good. I have Cinema First but keen to hear your input.
Subtitles still need to be done so if I have time I’ll work on that. Not something I’m too familiar with so will probably just edit an SRT file from somewhere. I do know that the subs are rather inaccurate on the DVD and improved on the Bluray.
If you would like to QC the preview version please PM me and I’ll send you a Resillio key.
The early video anamatics from Return of the Jedi
trillary dump said:
That would be great if that font variation actually existed anywhere.
It’s fairly easy to find that font online to download. As for the -30 tracking it depends on the software you’re using on if you can do that or not.
trillary dump said:
I had the same thoughts as Ash. However according to Bobson Dugnutt’s preservation page the font used for the theatrical subs are “ITC Franklin Gothic Demi Bold, 69 point with -30 tracking”
That would be great if that font variation actually existed anywhere. What’s on the print as far as we can tell is a different digitization of the font as many of the characters are slightly different from what’s available online for purchase or otherwise.
This shot here looked terrible on all releases with its blown out red shadows, made me wonder it was something to do with the digital scanning creating artefacts.
Nope, its the same on the print. The compositing and grading on this film is suprisingly awful.
That is a shame. You wouldnt think film restoration would be so hazardous to ones health.
No chance you got anything with subtitles?
Would you happen to have an automated process to cut up the original files into each shot as an individual file without any recompression, modification or data loss?
For other films, RotJ, was looking at an After Effects plugin which ‘spots’ film edits. So the program would hopefully spot the easy 90% of the shots which don’t look the same at the edits, then tweak that to find tune. But didn’t get into that at all before my SW life derailed. Otherwise back to Avisync and just scroll and write down the values, try to do a minute or two at a time and over a few months it’s all done.
I was thinking about this myself actually, And Ive just remembered my simpsons restoration scripts have a scene change detector which worked okay, a bit of tweaking could get it working better. Just having it export frames to a txt file and dump into avisynth. All my shot cheking was done in premiere pro, setting the TC display to frame counts.
Is your random selection done in the spreadsheet or a script of the video editor program?
It’s a spreadsheet script, which generates a random number, you pick the sync (GOUT/SE/BR ect) and then it will select between GOUT only sources or all sources based on criteria from the dataset. then the ins and outs are moved into an AVisynth script format.
Remember to write yourself very explicit notes on how you did each step. Ran into many steps I couldn’t reproduce when trying to complete the ESB version of AARRSSTW. Have thus far given up with the frustration, my apathy towards computing is making me a pissy piece of shit. Happy happy joy joy. Good Luck!
Yes definitly. My simpsons project is stalled because i forgot how my script worked. Just a big fat mess that needs rewriting.
It’s more about the grain, scanning 4K resolves the print grain much better. There is likely much less picture data on the print than there is on the Blu-ray.
Seems silly to call this a competition. If there are any more sources out there that I don’t have I’d love to have them. This is a community effort.
Well the offer I made in our private thread still stands.
Yes. Burn in subtitles are there, general english subtitles I haven’t done yet but will get onto it.
A few months ago I had a conversation with ZigZig about this project and what I could be doing better. As it turns out I was totally off base with my assumptions on color. I had assumed from other posts on the topic that the only change in color from theatrical to DVD was a general pink wash that was easily removed with the THX reference.
As it turns out this could not be further from the truth. Throughout the whole film many scenes have been entirely regraded to look very different. Often to balance the poor color grading of the original release but also to brighten or darken a scene to enhance the mood, or to boost skintones where they had been washed out. Many scenes needed this treatment, the pod hanger, jedi council, senate chamber, but often the colors would become unnatural or video like. It was a rush job to fix a rush job, interestingly the bluray reverses a lot of these changes but introduces its own shitty grading decisions.
Restoring the colors shot by shot was an exhaustive process that took around a month an a half of full time work (as a freelancer I have plenty these days), I created over 1700 individual lut files using Dr Dres color matching tool. The HDTV was matched exclusively to the ORF1 SDTV release. As of now I’d say the colors are 99% accurate to the Theatrical Telecine which is a standard I am pretty happy with. It’s is certainly more pleasing to the eye.
Subtitles have also been adjusted. RU.08 suggested that the shadow on the subtitles goes directly down like in AOTC but on closer inspection of the Z bootleg they appear to go down and to the right.
I expect to have a preview out in the next 24 hours and if everything goes well it will be ready for public release soon. I’m eager to get this done and dusted as I have many more projects to work on.