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#102236
Topic
***The "ISOMIX" feedback thread ***
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/102236/action/topic#102236
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I don't suppose we can get another seeder on the ISOMIX trilogy on MySpleen, can we? I've been trying to download it for several days now, but I really only have the opportunity in the evening/night. There's only been one seeder, and it has been taking forever (I'm ~50% on all three) and I'll plan on seeding them every night as much as I can when I get done, but getting done could be difficult. Right now there isn't any seeder at all.
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#100866
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.: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/100866/action/topic#100866
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Originally posted by: zion
No offense, but I thought all TFNers (especially those officially involved with anything) were all "OMG, the SE SE is the definitive editions, the originals are unfinished and crappy! You don't really seem to fit with that.

That would of course be your stereotypical TFNer. However, there are those of us who choose to think outside the box...


I'm glad to see that your sort of TFNer exists. It is a very rare thing, heretofore thought to be an oxymoron.
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#70448
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Using the '04 SE DVD version to restore the Original (with lots of info)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70448/action/topic#70448
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Originally posted by: oojason
^ for laws in the USA?


Yep. Congress just passed new laws. You can't back up anything you own anymore, the way the new laws are worded, even though that is illegal according to other laws (I believe). It is one big snafu. The lobbyists finally got through to some people, and Sen. Orin Hatch had something happen to him, I forget what exactly, that caused him to switch his beliefs, and he was one of the people that got the darn thing pushed through.

It is illegal to back up CDs, DVDs, rip anything from a disc (even for your own private, personal use), etc.
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#70128
Topic
Using the '04 SE DVD version to restore the Original (with lots of info)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70128/action/topic#70128
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Originally posted by: Molly
Same holds true for torrenting the rips of the LDs, though, being different from any release version I think it shouldn't matter. Not everyone has these capabilities.

Moll.


Especially since they aren't being released commercially anywhere else. It is probably "technically" against the law, but so is loaning copies of your movies to others, and even backing up your own stuff now. As is distributing anything that is no longer in production, but still has the copyright on it, since they extended that to 75 years. Which is another whole argument in and of itself, but still quite plainly crap.

And actually, with the new laws, ripping your own CDs to MP3s, and never giving them to anyone, is now illegal. Making mixed CDs from your own collections is now illegal. All those mixed tapes that we used to make for our families and girlfriends are now technically illegal. I no longer consider that to be a legitimate test of whether something is "right" or "wrong."
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#70127
Topic
Using the '04 SE DVD version to restore the Original (with lots of info)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70127/action/topic#70127
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Since it was all the same hallway, you can learn to recognize the wall panel patterns, but once you do, you can never "unsee" it... the whole thing starts to look silly. I wouldn't recommend it.


Boy, you're not a-kiddin'. I'll never get that out of my head, now. And I got that just from quickly looking over that map and screenshots.
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#70117
Topic
Using the '04 SE DVD version to restore the Original (with lots of info)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70117/action/topic#70117
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On your site, you are very careful about saying that you will not distribute them commercially or sell them. Which is good, 'cause to do otherwise is illegal. But will you ever allow your restorations to be availble to anyone, either online, or on your own burned discs, etc? And I know you said you wouldn't sell them here as well, but I'm not talking about selling at all. And I would like the point clarified, if you would please.
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#69183
Topic
Using the '04 SE DVD version to restore the Original (with lots of info)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/69183/action/topic#69183
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I actually did purchase the box set. I enjoy it, but not as much as I'd enjoy the original original made from it. I, for one, don't consider what Mike is doing to really be anything wrong. Granted, I'm not in charge here, but that is just my two cents. I've said before that I was going to purchase the DVDs, I did, and I want to see what Mike can do.

Of course, I would really like to have a copy or at least watch Mike's restorations. If that is not to be, then I guess I won't be able to. But I certainly don't feel that, since I actually purchased the discs from Lucasfilm and Fox that there would be anything wrong with it at all.
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#68253
Topic
Using the '04 SE DVD version to restore the Original (with lots of info)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/68253/action/topic#68253
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Mike, you dog you. You have to be able to share that, once you've gotten it perfected. Since you are just "practicing" and not actually distributing for profit, sharing amongs friends is legal. And I'd be more than happy to purchase your personal, expensive blank, dual-layer DVDs and pay the exhorbitant shipping cost just to take a look at your "practice session" and see what is possible, and use it as a "learning tool" of my own as I discover the art of post-production visual effects.
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#65775
Topic
Star Wars DVD Music Mix Botched!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/65775/action/topic#65775
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
For reasons too complicated to explain I cannot open that url right now, and I am not familiar with sound technicalaties (I know what sounds good and what dosent), so I'd like someone to explain me what exactly happened to the soundtrack... How was it butchered?


The surround speakers play the wrong channels. Each speaker has its own seperate sounds that it is supposed to be playing in a 5.1 setup. The music soundtrack is no different. The soundtrack has a front left, front right, rear left, and rear right (and possibly a center) channel. Usually the sounds played in the front right and rear right channels are similar and complement each other regarding the soundtrack, and the same for the front left and rear left channels.

Basically, the sounds in the speakers, with a cheesy and not-quite accurate representation would be like this:

1 2

2 1

instead of being like this, like they should be:

1 2

1 2

So the music is going to sound funky, messed up, not integrated well, and somewhat jarring. It isn't going to sound smooth and soaring. Things aren't going to mesh well.

Most people would probably never notice, quite honestly. But a lot of us probably would. Its a majer, grade A level fuck-up.
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#64847
Topic
The OOT on DVD - then what?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/64847/action/topic#64847
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If I can get them on DVD in a 480p format, I'll be happy. After that, the law of diminishing returns really starts to kick in. Sure, Star Wars in 1080i would look absolutely beautiful, if they ever get the blu-ray or HD-DVD stuff going, and going well. And in the future, 1080p will look even better. But even so, the differences between the higher quality formats is a smaller jump in quality each iteration than it is going from VHS to DVD. The DVDs would supply a high enough quality transfer for further formats by fans, just like the unaltered OT torrents do now, but even better.

How much difference in quality is there going to be between a 1080i and a 1080p transfer? Will you notice a difference (when far far in the future they make TVs that can do 1080p). Sure, you'll notice a difference. But will it be a big difference? No, not really. Sure, it'll be there. It'll be great. But if it isn't available, it won't be the same as having to rely on a VHS for your movie today in the era of DVD.

The quality of the originals I don't think are the best anyway. Lowry can obviously fix a lot of that, but we're going to hit an upper limit at some point. Regular DVDs do look great and are eminently watchable on a really big-ass TV (55"+) without too much problem, unless you get into the upper 60-inch range. Then you can really start to see some scanlines again. But with a good progressive player and a quality TV, the DVDs will suffice for a long time. And I'd certainly be happy with them now, knowing they'd never come again, in any format. Will it be perfect? No. Will it be good enough? Sure, you bet.
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#62512
Topic
Lucas: Madman or Genius?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/62512/action/topic#62512
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Originally posted by: jimbo
You seriously like Return of the Jedi more then A New Hope. A New Hope is a classic masterpeice. Its excellently acted, writen, and directed. Its a classic and it always will be. Return of the Jedi features huge plot holes, walkthrough acting, and its just plain weak in comparison.

Yes, I seriously do. I like Empire far more than either, though. ANH is a classic, and will always be a classic. But I don't think that it was as good as it could have been. It was saved by a few very fortunate occurances. Those occurances were Alec Guiness and Peter Cushing. Without them, that movie would have been flatter than 12 day old soda. Alec Guiness brought some credibility to the role of Obi-Wan, and certainly saved the movie. He gave the movie depth. He played the wizend old man very well. He made parts serious that needed to be serious, and he helped in the creation of the journey of the lone hero. He allowed you to suspend your disbelief in the movie, because he was that good at what he did. Put almost anyone else in that role, and the movie would not have been the same. In the same manner, Peter Cushing provided that little bit of evil, sinister touch to latch onto and realize that the Empire was a cruel, evil threat. He created the Darth Vader screen presence. He was good enough at what he did that he allowed the Vader costume (and David Prowse and JEJ)to shine.

In a similar manner, Liam Neeson saved TPM. Without him, that movie would be nigh unwatchable. There is nothing else in it. He and his character advance the plot, give the movie credibility, and allow you to suspend your disbelief enough to enjoy it. Without him, you've got nothing in the movie besides effects shots and stand-ins. His acting ability allowed you to take the movie seriously.

In a similar manner, Christopher Lee anchors AOTC. There is no impending sense of danger or evil or even conflict in the movie. Its a horrible, horrible production. It is fun, it is flashy, but its got no life. The only exception is when Anakin finds his mother, and kills the Sandpeople. But if that was all that was in there, the movie would have sucked beyond sucking. However, when Obi-Wan is imprisoned, and Count Dooku comes in and interrogates him, well, that scene is monumentous. The pacing of Dooku, the questioning, the appealing, the very menace that he portrays under his illusion of goodwill and honesty. It is classic, and something that Lee worked very well in. It gave credibility to the threat. Otherwise the entire plot of the movie just looks like a lameass political stunt by Palpatine that everyone in the galaxy should see through. Lee gives the Seperatists credibility. Dooku is the embodyment of old school literature demons/devils. He's smooth, calm, charming. He's charismatic. He tells you truths so you will believe him, even as he leads you towards evil and damnation. He is a temptor. He's very much in control of the situation, and the scenes he's in. The battle with Yoda is another example, but it doesn't work quite as well. He's still very much in control of the situation, harrassing the good, doing enough to get away and fight again from the shadows later.

GL has lucked out repeatedly in his movies. Lee saved AOTC. Neeson saved TPM. Guiness saved ANH. And I'm convinced, without Guiness and Cushing in ANH, no other Star Wars movies would have ever been made. They allowed the audience to connect on a more viseral level with the film. Those actors made GL. And they did it in spite of GL. Because as you've seen, GL really can't direct for shit.

Even the best part in ANH is Luke looking into the twin sunset on Tatooine, and that scene is only memorable and has the emotional impact that it does because of John Williams' score.

And quite honestly, ANH has more plot holes than either of the other two OT movies put together. But that is beside the point.


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#62462
Topic
Lucas: Madman or Genius?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/62462/action/topic#62462
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When did Lucas actually get divorced? I think that episode, coupled with looking at life differently now that he has kids, may have also changed his views a lot. Spielburg has also mellowed a lot with age, and he makes different movies now.

I honestly think that George is not a good director. I think ANH is the lowest quality film of the OT, and not because the effects were more dated or anything. I just don't think George can direct. He's got a decent vision, but he needs someone else to bring it out of the actors, out of the sets, and out of the editing. The best movie of the OT is Empire, and that is because of the director. He was able to adjust, to get what he wanted, to get the best take even if it wasn't what he wanted, to allow the characters to evolve.

In my opinion, the best scene in Empire is Han being put into Carbon freeze. Leia yells to him that she loves him, and Han just looks back at her stoicly, and answers with his brief, "I know." That wasn't in the script. That was Harrison being irritated at having to redo the same take so many times, and yet still being in character, being pissy, and ad libbing something Han would actually say, and in doing so, advancing his character so much with just two words. George would never have taken that take and kept it in the movie. He'd have taken a less good one, edited it to something he wanted exactly, and the character of Han would be shallower, and less interesting. Thank God GL didn't direct Empire and Jedi. If he did, Star Wars would never have been as big as it was, I don't think.
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#62458
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What did we all expect from the Prequel Trilogy?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/62458/action/topic#62458
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Yes, yes, to RM you listen.

Not only do you get what he just explained, but you can draw even further inferences about the entire scene. The Empire doesn't like bounty hunters. You get that from Piett's line, but also by the fact that the Empire is rigid, organized, and orderly. Bounty Hunters are not, and they contrast mightily with the bridge of the Star Destroyer.

That means Vader is skipping the Empire to do his work. He's gotten the most badass of the badassest folks assembled on his bridge. Bossk is indeed a tough character. The contempt that is conveyed for Piett's comment in his little growl is really well done too. There is a lot of depth to that simple growl. And the fact that he does so with impunity, as mentioned, also further elaborates on the situation at hand. What would Vader do, I wonder, if Bossk leaped down and killed Piett? At that instant, who is more valuable to Vader?

And the fact that the remark made by Bossk is unintelligible makes it that much better. What did he say? I have no idea. But that allows my imagination to dwell on it, to be thrilled by it. It was obviously something not intended to please the listener. Some horrible slander against Peitt? Almost certainly. A death threat? Possibly. But my mind can make more out of not knowing something, than anything that would actually be locked in to my mind. It also makes it seem more spontaneous. Its the whole "an unseen monster is often more scarey than one that is seen" concept. Your mind can imagine a nebulous "worst."
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#62336
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millenniumfalcon.com
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/62336/action/topic#62336
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Yep. And they are one of the best spoiler sites out there. They've had screen caps of the new DVD releases for the last month, and accurate spy reports of what was going to be changed much longer than that. They've posted menu rips of the new DVDs, rips of changed scenes, and rips of both ESB and ROTJ via torrents. Lucasfilm must hate them so much.