CamSMurph

Ooh, this is going good! ^^

Sounds like pretty good planning out you got there, Chris. What with the success of your UnOfficial Director’s Cut of the film, you’ll now have more deleted footage to add into the film. And if I may leave a few suggestions:

1. For the 89-style opening sequence, have darkened clouds appear as a background over the “DIRECTED BY JOEL SCHUMACHER” credit, and have the credit fade out there.
2. Remember in September last year with your Two-Face introduction concept video, the one that had the exterior shot at the end of the video of Gotham City with the Batsignal lit up in the sky? Use that.
3. I think the idea to have city shots that look similar to Burton’s Gotham is a fantastic idea.
4. I hope you can innovate with the new colour grade for this version of your most popular edit. 😃
5. Hopefully your edit on the safe sequence will bring back memories of your old concept video on Vimeo.

Share your thoughts on my ideas for your edit and good luck! ^^

The mentions of uncut shots of violence just caught my eye. Can’t wait to see this cut! ^^

Say, speaking of the cloud effect, that seems to differ a bit in aspect ratio with the film.

Anjohan said:

CamSMurph said:

Anjohan said:

CamSMurph said:

Anjohan said:

CamSMurph said:

Truth be told, the scene at the staircase never really worked for me.

But why? Line delivery? Behaviour? I’m eager to know.

Does anyone else find this scene bad?

Well, the scene played out a little weak to me. I guess a little more could’ve been added to that short moment before Harry leaves. Plus, a rather unnecessary mention of Hogwarts’ restriction of underage wizardry.

I completely understand if you feel you want to leave this scene in. It’s only my suggestion.

Hmm, interesting. I’m not against you, but I’m not sure I’m entirely with you either. I like the scene - I think it creates some extra tension and show some character growth, standing up for himself, and also depicts all the emotions coming with puberty.

I agree with you that it’s short - perhaps a bit redundant, and I can’t help but feel that a lot of stuff was left on the cutting room floor.

Completely understood.

Also, I believe you said you’ll be adding a few deleted scenes to the film. Care to enlighten?

All the ones there are, with the help of JJPotter’s amazing restructure of them.

Well, JJ used a stellar spinning background for the Knight Bus deleted scene, mayhaps you could ask him where he got such a background. ^^

Anjohan said:

CamSMurph said:

Anjohan said:

CamSMurph said:

Truth be told, the scene at the staircase never really worked for me.

But why? Line delivery? Behaviour? I’m eager to know.

Does anyone else find this scene bad?

Well, the scene played out a little weak to me. I guess a little more could’ve been added to that short moment before Harry leaves. Plus, a rather unnecessary mention of Hogwarts’ restriction of underage wizardry.

I completely understand if you feel you want to leave this scene in. It’s only my suggestion.

Hmm, interesting. I’m not against you, but I’m not sure I’m entirely with you either. I like the scene - I think it creates some extra tension and show some character growth, standing up for himself, and also depicts all the emotions coming with puberty.

I agree with you that it’s short - perhaps a bit redundant, and I can’t help but feel that a lot of stuff was left on the cutting room floor.

Completely understood.

Also, I believe you said you’ll be adding a few deleted scenes to the film. Care to enlighten?

Anjohan said:

CamSMurph said:

Truth be told, the scene at the staircase never really worked for me.

But why? Line delivery? Behaviour? I’m eager to know.

Does anyone else find this scene bad?

Well, the scene played out a little weak to me. I guess a little more could’ve been added to that short moment before Harry leaves. Plus, a rather unnecessary mention of Hogwarts’ restriction of underage wizardry.

I completely understand if you feel you want to leave this scene in. It’s only my suggestion.

Truth be told, the scene at the staircase never really worked for me.

Maybe for PoA, after Harry looks at the picture, you could cut immediately to him outside, preparing to leave Little Whinging and his encounter with the Knight Bus. 😃

Hey guys. It’s me again. I’ve come to give an announcement regarding my Batman Forever re-edit.

Now, recently I’ve joined the SuperHeroHype Forums, and following a suggestion from a fellow user on the forums named “Dark Raven”, I’ve come to a conclusion.

Batman Forever: Bigger, Battier and Better is now…

…Forever Noir!

Now, what are the specs behind this marvellous change, you ask?

Well, basically it’s the same intention as Bigger, Battier and Better, only in a Logan Noir-styled fashion.

The source material will be presented entirely in black and white for that convincing ‘period’ feel. Plus, I will be mixing Hans Zimmer’s score from The Dark Knight and Batman v Superman with the original soundtrack by Elliot Goldenthal.

Now go here to the forum on the SHH site for a look at my new, revised cutlist: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=537703

Just saw it, and by far, it looks great! 😄

I enjoyed the tweaks you made to the deleted footage, and couldn’t help but notice a few differences.

You seem to have excised Two-Face’s laughter after he flips his coin in the helicopter, and I see you’ve added the panning shot of Arkham from the U2 music video (you forgot to add that to your list).

Nice job! 😃

Overall, I give version 2 a 9.5/10.

Hopefully this year, you can go back to your Tim Burton edit of the film. 😉

Oh, just to let you know for the future, there are a couple of shots from the U2 music video (which I indeed will be using for my edit), featuring an alternate shot of the bat flying towards the camera, and one including an alternate angle of Batman staring at the Statue of Liberty.

Right now, I don’t see any possibility of you using those shots now that you’ve completed work on the current version, but I thought I’d just let you know in case you do.

So that’s my review, and feel free to reply asap. 😃

Good luck on your revised edit! 😃

Oh, and just in case you forget, be sure to include these shots from th U2 music video:
-Extended shot of the bat flying towards the camera
-Extra shot of the helicopter approaching the Statue of Liberty (I presume this may be difficult for you to implement, but try your best)
-Alternate panning shot of Arkham Asylum

Hope this helps! 😄

Wait TGWE…

…you’re doing an updated version of the UnOfficial Director’s Cut? 😄

Hey Chris, I’ve made a forum on the SuperHeroHype Forums announcing my BF edit with a new, revised cutlist. Here: http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=537703

As always, I’m free to suggestions. 😃

I agree. In fact, this thread I presume featured some screenshots of the edit, which are unfortunately unavailable for view. Believe me, I would KILL to see some screenshots before I see the real thing.

Nice idea there, TGWE. I know it’s only been a few days since you’ve signed up on this site, but you never stop running out of snappy ideas relating to the fanediting universe. If you ask me, I believe there is someone out there who has been hoarding information for years on end about the Dark Knight Edition. This edit is said to be one of the most professional fan edits across the globe. So, if anyone has any information on this edit, PM me or TGWE.

PM pls because I consider Half-Blood Prince to be the darkest of all 8 Potter movies. 😃

The Ritty said:

CamSMurph said:

Last time, I shared with you all my ideas for a Batman & Robin recut.

Today, I’m here to announce…

…that I’ve begun development on a another Batman fan edit.

The Batman film, in question?

Batman Forever.

I’ve already discussed this through my buds over on the fanedit.org forums, and overall, they seem to appreciate the idea.

Here is my proposed cutslist:

1. CG Warner Bros. logo.
2. Arkham Asylum new opening.
3. Opening titles sequence, matching that of Batman '89 and Returns.
4. Wayne Enterprises exterior shot.
5. Bruce Wayne meets Edward Nygma.
6. Suit-up sequence.
7. Alfred’s “Can I persuade you to take a sandwich with you, sir?” and Batman’s “I’ll get drive-thru” replaced with “Do try and bring this one back in one piece, sir” from B&R.
8. Two-Face introduction.
9. Batman and Chase introduction. Cut Chase’s “hot entrance”.
10. Batman’s first fight. Alternate angles and extra dialogue.
11. Bank vault escape. Cut the guard’s moaning, including “Hey! That’s my hearing aid!” and “My shoes are melting!”. Added brief alternate angle of Batman aiming his grappling gun.
12. Helicopter fight. “This’ll fix him!” replaced with “If the Bat wants to play, we’ll play!”. Reinserted extended fight between Batman and Two-Face.
13. Cut Two-Face’s parachute.
14. Added flashbacks from B89 to the underwater shot.
15. Nygma experiments on Mr. Stickley. His “game show” and surfing gags are cut.
16. Bruce watches GNN news report and goes to Wayne Enterprises for the investigation. Gordon’s “Yep, definitely suicide” is cut.
17. “Bad Days” by The Flaming Lips is retained.
18. Edward plants the second riddle at Wayne Manor. His “Wayne Manor…” and “Hmph!” are cut.
19. Bruce arrives at Chase’s study and asks her out to the circus.
20. Circus raid plays out mostly the same. Gossip Gerty’s lines are cut.
21. Bruce takes Dick in as a ward. Clips from B89 added to the Flashback sequence.
22. Batman meets Chase on the rooftop. Chase’s “Last night at the bank I noticed something about Two-Face” is shortened. Batman’s “It’s the car, right? Chicks love the car” is cut.
23. Entire car chase between Batman and Two-Face is gone.
24. Bruce checks up on Dick at the gym.
25. Edward becomes the Riddler. His “Question Mark Man?” is cut.
26. Riddler and Two-Face team up.
27. Casino heist sequences removed.
28. Dick helps Alfred with the washing.
29. Batman ends up at the beauty salon.
30. Riddler and Two-Face escape with the jewels.
31. Bruce and Alfred solve the third riddle.
32. Nygmatech press conference. Montage of Two-Face and Riddler taking hits from the box is cut.
33. Dick discovers the Batcave.
34. Chase gives Bruce a present.
35. Dick’s drive in the Batmobile is maintained. It brings wit and charm to the film.
36. Bruce’s “terrible morning” speech now features cameos from Returns.
37. Nygmatech party. U2’s “Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me” plays during the party. Edward and Two-Face’s bickering about whose entrance was better is cut. Alternate angles of Batman’s fight are added.
38. Batman’s close encounter with Death at the abandoned subway station.
39. Bruce and Dick at the Batcave. Bruce watches the GNN news report and contemplates on his parents’ wake.
40. Batman arrives at Chase’s apartment.
41. “Bats on the Brain” scene at the Riddler’s lair altered.
42. Bruce quits as Batman.
43. Chase comes over for dinner.
44. Bruce tells Chase about his childhood fears.
45. Two-Face and Riddler’s raid on Wanye Manor. Two-Face’s first flip is cut.
46. The giant bat scene plays out as Bruce’s nightmare.
47. Bruce wakes up.
48. Chase chained to the couch.
49. Bruce and Alfred solve the final riddle.
50. Batman suits up, sans butt shot.
51. Robin and Batman team up.
52. The climax plays out mostly the same. Robin’s 60’s Batman reference remains. Riddler’s “Was that OTT? I can never tell” and “Bummer!” are cut.
53. Two-Face’s death at the capable hands of Batman.
54. Edward is taken to Arkham.
55. Batman and Chase kiss outside the asylum.
56. New Burton-style ending.
57. Michael Gough and Pat Hingle dedication cards.
58. End credits.
59. New closing logos.

So, have any suggestions? Feel free to leave them below. 😃

I’ll watch! I started my own 2 weeks ago and gave up lol I agree with a lot of the cuts like the hot entrance the sandwhich line… I think personally I gave up when we got to twoface lair with sugar and spice… Is it available to watch? Thanks.

Actually, I’ve yet to start editing. I think you should press forward with tour cut or start again from scratch. Now talk to me: what conflict do you have with the scene in Riddler’s lair?

Last time, I shared with you all my ideas for a Batman & Robin recut.

Today, I’m here to announce…

…that I’ve begun development on a another Batman fan edit.

The Batman film, in question?

Batman Forever.

I’ve already discussed this through my buds over on the fanedit.org forums, and overall, they seem to appreciate the idea.

Here is my proposed cutslist:

1. CG Warner Bros. logo.
2. Arkham Asylum new opening.
3. Opening titles sequence, matching that of Batman '89 and Returns.
4. Wayne Enterprises exterior shot.
5. Bruce Wayne meets Edward Nygma.
6. Suit-up sequence.
7. Alfred’s “Can I persuade you to take a sandwich with you, sir?” and Batman’s “I’ll get drive-thru” replaced with “Do try and bring this one back in one piece, sir” from B&R.
8. Two-Face introduction.
9. Batman and Chase introduction. Cut Chase’s “hot entrance”.
10. Batman’s first fight. Alternate angles and extra dialogue.
11. Bank vault escape. Cut the guard’s moaning, including “Hey! That’s my hearing aid!” and “My shoes are melting!”. Added brief alternate angle of Batman aiming his grappling gun.
12. Helicopter fight. “This’ll fix him!” replaced with “If the Bat wants to play, we’ll play!”. Reinserted extended fight between Batman and Two-Face.
13. Cut Two-Face’s parachute.
14. Added flashbacks from B89 to the underwater shot.
15. Nygma experiments on Mr. Stickley. His “game show” and surfing gags are cut.
16. Bruce watches GNN news report and goes to Wayne Enterprises for the investigation. Gordon’s “Yep, definitely suicide” is cut.
17. “Bad Days” by The Flaming Lips is retained.
18. Edward plants the second riddle at Wayne Manor. His “Wayne Manor…” and “Hmph!” are cut.
19. Bruce arrives at Chase’s study and asks her out to the circus.
20. Circus raid plays out mostly the same. Gossip Gerty’s lines are cut.
21. Bruce takes Dick in as a ward. Clips from B89 added to the Flashback sequence.
22. Batman meets Chase on the rooftop. Chase’s “Last night at the bank I noticed something about Two-Face” is shortened. Batman’s “It’s the car, right? Chicks love the car” is cut.
23. Entire car chase between Batman and Two-Face is gone.
24. Bruce checks up on Dick at the gym.
25. Edward becomes the Riddler. His “Question Mark Man?” is cut.
26. Riddler and Two-Face team up.
27. Casino heist sequences removed.
28. Dick helps Alfred with the washing.
29. Batman ends up at the beauty salon.
30. Riddler and Two-Face escape with the jewels.
31. Bruce and Alfred solve the third riddle.
32. Nygmatech press conference. Montage of Two-Face and Riddler taking hits from the box is cut.
33. Dick discovers the Batcave.
34. Chase gives Bruce a present.
35. Dick’s drive in the Batmobile is maintained. It brings wit and charm to the film.
36. Bruce’s “terrible morning” speech now features cameos from Returns.
37. Nygmatech party. U2’s “Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me” plays during the party. Edward and Two-Face’s bickering about whose entrance was better is cut. Alternate angles of Batman’s fight are added.
38. Batman’s close encounter with Death at the abandoned subway station.
39. Bruce and Dick at the Batcave. Bruce watches the GNN news report and contemplates on his parents’ wake.
40. Batman arrives at Chase’s apartment.
41. “Bats on the Brain” scene at the Riddler’s lair altered.
42. Bruce quits as Batman.
43. Chase comes over for dinner.
44. Bruce tells Chase about his childhood fears.
45. Two-Face and Riddler’s raid on Wanye Manor. Two-Face’s first flip is cut.
46. The giant bat scene plays out as Bruce’s nightmare.
47. Bruce wakes up.
48. Chase chained to the couch.
49. Bruce and Alfred solve the final riddle.
50. Batman suits up, sans butt shot.
51. Robin and Batman team up.
52. The climax plays out mostly the same. Robin’s 60’s Batman reference remains. Riddler’s “Was that OTT? I can never tell” and “Bummer!” are cut.
53. Two-Face’s death at the capable hands of Batman.
54. Edward is taken to Arkham.
55. Batman and Chase kiss outside the asylum.
56. New Burton-style ending.
57. Michael Gough and Pat Hingle dedication cards.
58. End credits.
59. New closing logos.

So, have any suggestions? Feel free to leave them below. 😃

Any chance I could get to catch up on this and CoS?

Sounds like an enjoyable experience. I’m watching the original version right now. I suppose this edit is going for a darker tone, borrowed from PoA and GoF. Right? 😃

Wow. This page brings great reference to the Batman Forever Remix by Batman Again off YouTube. Say, maybe douglas3684 IS Batman Again! Mind…blown.

Wow. This page brings great reference to the Batman Forever Remix by Batman Again off YouTube. Say, maybe douglas3684 IS Batman Again! Mind…blown.

Hello, this is Bristonian Cameron Sean Murphy. I am new here on Original Trilogy, and I’m here today to discuss a certain “bat-bomb”.

As you all may know, I am indeed referring to 1997’s Batman & Robin, directed by Joel Schumacher.

B&R followed Batman Forever, which was a film critics were more lenient on. Apparently, the film was a critical failure for a reason.

When Joel Schumacher was in production on Batman Forever, he originally intended it to be a dark and gritty 2hr 40min blockbuster, before the shitpot executives at Warner Bros. decided on a more lighthearted approach. Thus, the film was cut down to a leaner 2hr 1min, with around 38-39 minutes of footage being removed.

Since then, fan editors worldwide have opted to recut BF with the 15 minutes of deleted scenes available on the Special Edition DVD. These included Red Book Edition by scaperat, Dark Knight Edition, Deassified by MalvadoZandin, the idea of a decampified version by greencapt and Elmic-Toboo on DeviantArt, and even The Tim Burton Cut by Christopher Sandobaru.

The big change led up to this…

Batman & Robin was overall filled to the brim with campiness, one-liners, bickering, jokes, and oversaturated colours.

These caused many critics alike to bash the film…aside from Michael Medveo, who thought it was “consistantly dazzling, ingenious, breathtaking”.

And as for deleted scenes, only one made it onto DVD and Blu-rau, amd it was one where we learn Barbara isn’t really Alfred’s niece. There are indeed others out there, including a line from Batman (“Didn’t your mother ever not to play with guns, Freeze?”), as well as extensions to the fight scenes and additional and alternate dialogue. There’s also a scene where Poison Ivy stabs Julie Madsion to death, which we all assume was cut because Schumacher felt even the idea itself were seriously fucked up.

These deleted scenes and additional shots would’ve at least made the film a little more violent, and probably, a little more interesting.

So you see? It’s not the filmmakers to blame…

…it’s Warner fucking Bros.

So that’s why I’ve started this thread; to share my ideas on how I could improve this critical shitshack of a summer popcorn flick.

I’m going to take a break now, I’m feeling a little worn out. I’ll add more very soon. Promise! 😉

UPDATE (25/9/2017):
Finally, I’m back on this thread to give out my ideas.

To start off, the asinine items (batsuit tits, Alica Silverstone’s Batgirl, etc.) can’t obviously be removed entirely. The best thing we can do about this issue, however, is to tone down their screentime. That’s what greencapt did for De-Assified, so I see no reason why we can’t.

Moving on, if I were to remake greencapt’s De-Assified, I would probably keep the opening suit-up sequence (albeit sans the batarses, battits, and batdicks), and the fight at the museum would work well with greencapt’s edits, only much smoother and tighter, and the scene may have to be rescored.

In fact, many other scenes in the movie will need some music changes. I’m thinking either Danny Elfman or Hans Zimmer.

As per greencapt’s original vision, all bickering between Dick and Bruce is gone, I tells ya! All GONE!

Now this is a bit of a pickle. The cut I’ve seen removes the ‘Alfred is dying’ subplot, and websites claim it also omits the MacGregor’s Syndrome subplot with Freeze’s wife.

Now this is the most simple edit to utilize. Dialogue removal. This includes the excising of many ice-related puns and cringy lines. This effectively tones doen the overall campiness of the villainous Mr. Freeze.

Ivy, as with other B&R edits out there, will remain the same, due to the fact that her entire performance is campy and is actually IMO the most necessary fraction of camp in the entire film.

As for the Batgirl suit-up scene towards the end, I would suggest keeping the zipping-up, then immediately cut to the next shot before we see the butt shot.

During the scene where Dick goes to Ivy’s lair, I would restore the line “rubber lips are immune to your charms,” because it’s one of the lines in the film that actually makes sense.

And finally, even if Freeze no longer helps Batman, it is still heartwarming to hear that his wife is still alive and will be moved to the lab at Arkham so Freeze can continue his research.

So, any ideas on how I could do my own cut?