Callum N

Sambarker04 said:

Callum N said:

Oh wow, that’s all incredibly informative, thank you so much! So basically the Dolby Digital found on the UHD is the 2005 mix, and that 2005 mix is continued on in the DTS-HD tracks found on the first Blu-rays released for the film, e.g the 5.1 DTS-HD track? I suppose my question after this would be (especially as I see a fair amount of folks hemming and hawing about it when asked it), as someone who clearly or at least probably knows what the best audios are in order, is the DTS-HD MA a definite improvement over the Dolby Digital tracks? The answer strikes me as obvious based on the name alone regardless of one’s audio knowledge, but obviously there can always be futzing about happening. Either way, you would expect that '05 mix to sound as great as the DTS-HD; regardless of the format, it seemed to be a fair slight quieter when played at the exact same volume as the DTS-HD. I might just have to sell off the UK 4Ks I got and try get the US ones to retain all the audios I want. You might have something on that also in terms of how loud the tracks are, and if so that’d be incredible.

Thanks. Though I should let you know that the US UHD release is the same as the UK one with the language options, so just to let you know.

Ah, yeah I just noticed! Well then I guess its a question of either ramping up the DD 5.1 track to match the loudness of the DTS-HD or paying tons of money for new equipment that will enable me able to sync up different audio separate from the UHD. If you have anything like a visual comparison in Audacity on the difference in volume between the Dolby Digital 5.1 ('05 mix) / DTS-HD / Atmos, that would be awesome and give proper credence to what I’m hearing with the audio being weak, but only if you’re happy to indulge me aha

Oh wow, that’s all incredibly informative, thank you so much! So basically the Dolby Digital found on the UHD is the 2005 mix, and that 2005 mix is continued on in the DTS-HD tracks found on the first Blu-rays released for the film, e.g the 5.1 DTS-HD track? I suppose my question after this would be (especially as I see a fair amount of folks hemming and hawing about it when asked it), as someone who clearly or at least probably knows what the best audios are in order, is the DTS-HD MA a definite improvement over the Dolby Digital tracks? The answer strikes me as obvious based on the name alone regardless of one’s audio knowledge, but obviously there can always be futzing about happening. Either way, you would expect that '05 mix to sound as great as the DTS-HD; regardless of the format, it seemed to be a fair slight quieter when played at the exact same volume as the DTS-HD. I might just have to sell off the UK 4Ks I got and try get the US ones to retain all the audios I want. You might have something on that also in terms of how loud the tracks are, and if so that’d be incredible.

Excellent thread and work on this! You strike me as an expert on these matters, so I wanted to ask you what is meant to be the very original theatrical mix? I’m from the UK and I’ve got the UHD and Blu-ray, the former containing the Atmos track and English Dolby Digital 5.1, the latter a 5.1 DTS-HD mix. The DTS-HD mix, to my ears, sounds incredible, and its frustrating that - like many of the other Pixar films on UHD in the UK - it isn’t included on the 4K. The thing is, I’ve been informed that the Dolby Digital track found on the UHD is supposedly the original theatrical audio track. Maybe I don’t understand, or maybe Disney chose to neuter the audio, but I watched through the film with the DD track and it didn’t sound as robust as the 5.1 or how I would presume such a track as that would sound. So I guess my question is: what is meant to be TS1’s original audio? Is it a 5.1 DD or something else entirely? And if the DD is the original track, is it me or the disc that is resulting in a lesser sound? I have this same issue with a handful of the other Pixar UHD audios, like Monsters Inc., which also has a robust 5.1 on the Blu-ray and not the UHD which contains a 5.1 DD that is likewise meant to be the original theatrical audio. Thanks for any information you can provide!

As far as I’ve been able to make sense of it, the general evolution of its English 5.1 mixes (the sound effects only one notwithstanding) has been something like this:
Dolby Digital 5.1 - the Original Theatrical, continued into the 2000 DVD release
Dolby Digital 5.1 EX (6.1 remix from 2005, 10th Anniversary Edition DVD; now on the UHD)
DTS-HD MA 5.1 ES (2011 Blu-ray / 3D Blu-ray)
DTS-HD MA (2011 Blu-ray)
Dolby Atmos (2019 4K)