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DrDre said:

Brodnation said:

DrDre said:

J0E said:

Darth Lucas said:

While I think it’s looking pretty darn great so far, I think I ought to throw my two cents into the teal walls debate. I’m sure some of it would have been visible in '77, but it would have been projected with very warm bulbs, which would have counteracted the teal in the walls a bit, not a ton, but a bit. I don’t have much of a preference, as I think either way is going to be “accurate” in one sense or another. However, I do think you’ve gone a bit overboard on that teal look in certain shots. For instance, I’m seeing quite a bit of teal in Leia’s dress in some of those shots, which I don’t think would have been the case. It may have picked up a bit from the walls around the edges of her dress, but it’s not reflective enough of a material, I think, to have the wall color drastically affect our perception of the dress color itself.

Just a little nitpick, but I think it’s worth addressing.

The teal walls may have been painted like that so they’d show up as a cool white on film. Like how the Superman suit was teal so it would look blue on film. IMHO set photos as a color reference isn’t always accurate when it comes to movies shot on film. A lot of things are colored a certain way on set so they appear the way the director wants them to look projected.

That’s why I only use set photos to support what is seen on film, and what is seen on film both on the frames, and projected is a bluish green color for the walls with creme colored panels.

Projected Derann print:

Despecialized 3.0:

That 3.0 Color grading looks absolutely dead on to me! Great job Dre!

Also speaking of projection bulbs, do slide bulbs yellow too? Or just 35mm bulbs?

I think all bulbs have tendency to become less bright and warmer as they age, even the sun. 😉

Actually, in its current phase, the sun’s luminosity increases by 1% every 100 million years. But unless you have a new fusion projector, this is irrelevant to this project 😉

Darth Lucas said:

While I think it’s looking pretty darn great so far, I think I ought to throw my two cents into the teal walls debate. I’m sure some of it would have been visible in '77, but it would have been projected with very warm bulbs, which would have counteracted the teal in the walls a bit, not a ton, but a bit. I don’t have much of a preference, as I think either way is going to be “accurate” in one sense or another. However, I do think you’ve gone a bit overboard on that teal look in certain shots. For instance, I’m seeing quite a bit of teal in Leia’s dress in some of those shots, which I don’t think would have been the case. It may have picked up a bit from the walls around the edges of her dress, but it’s not reflective enough of a material, I think, to have the wall color drastically affect our perception of the dress color itself.

Just a little nitpick, but I think it’s worth addressing.

Question from a person clueless in this process: how much of this would be attenuated if using a TV set to warmest (which I do) vs viewing on my relatively cool computer display?

Brodnation said:

Speaking of Despecialized, Do we know if Harmy is going to use the D+/4K Bluray editions and or the 4K77/4K83 versions for the new editions of the project? Have there been any updates?

That’s precisely what we’re speaking of… UHD BD will be the base for the new Despecialized as I understand.

Can’t wait 😄

Any cost or technical excuse is bullshit, because they could literally just scan, minor clean, and time an IP or seps (of which there most certainly is at least one) and most all of us would be happy. Disney could do that with their eyes closed.

Stotchy said:

If you don’t like grain then stick to watching the prequels. Or as I said earlier, make your own version with no grain.

Or just turn up the noise filter on your tv.

I kind of with studios who insist on DNR would not and put a disclaimer that you can use the noise filter if you don’t like grain, lol

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Action, Animation, Comedy, Drama, Film Noir, science Fiction, War, Western

Sequels next to the original regardless of title.

What did I miss?

OT x-wing, duh

It’s true, we will probably never see it, so too bad. I’m not comfortable with what sounds like people speaking ill of him or his project, though. His goal was always to get an official release out of it—a lofty but laudable goal at which he was always unlikely to succeed. It’s a shame that we’ll never see it, but there’s no reason to speak ill of the project, Mike, or people who voice a desire to see it.

SilverWook said:

I’ve been putting up with that mindset since at least the early 2000’s. Gave up on a Trek forum, (one with a general SF discussion board) and the Home Theater Forum because I was just plain weary of the Groundhog Day/temporal loop those discussions always seemed to end up in. Thank goodness I found OT, and for the life of me, I don’t even recall how I found it.

I don’t even want to imagine the pro Maclunkey arguments now. 😉

HTF folks are hostile to the OUT? I’ve never talked Star Wars there, mostly just like to read catalog BD reviews and might use it for some hardware advice in the future, but I find it hard to believe that such a place wouldn’t as a general rule support SW77 on disc…

adywan said:

benduwan said:

at D+ is empire of dreams available.
is this in real hd or upscaled?

Parts are upscale , parts in HD. This is the new version that was done a while back for HDTV. They asked Lucasfilm if they could have the footage they used in HD and they refused, so those parts had to be upscaled. Most of the “talking head” footage is HD though.

Is this because they didn’t want to share HD of unaltered shots?

Another thing is adding print grain, given the mission, would be excessive, since the best Blus today come from OCNs and therefore have relatively fine grain fields.

Maybe the way to go would be to try to replicate the grain field from a quality Blu of a film from the same era shot on similar stock.

Harmy said:

I am now in contact with oohteedee and we’re talking about collaborating on v3.0 using his D+xy versions as a basis and despecializing them further.

the focus of Despecialized can shift to being what a modern transfer of the movie

That said, will original opening logos still be preserved? I know some (not all) studios use newer logos on restorations of classic films, but I think for the despecialized crowd original logos are important.

I had no idea there were so many changes to the prequels. They’re so small and inconsequential. Roof moss? Really, that’s what bugged him most about AOTC? I really only knew about TPM pod race and CGI Yoda.

Original vision my ass. George just has a neurotic inability to consider something finished.

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Relative to the Blus, sure. But that’s not saying much.

I like my film to look like… film.

Would Harmy add fake grain to the picture to hide the frozen cap? Or is that outside his agenda?

blu-ray.com reviewers are not kind to this release. Frozen grain and some lost detail (though they still note its the best Star Wars has looked on home video to date–not saying much) due to excessive DNR.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Wars-Episode-IV-A-New-Hope-4K-Blu-ray/257142/

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Wars-Episode-V-The-Empire-Strikes-Back-4K-Blu-ray/257141/

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-4K-Blu-ray/257140/#Review

Especially after reading the AV reviews of of the UHD releases, really looking forward to upgrading my despecialized with this preservation.

Dr. Dre, you’re our only hope!

The blu-ray.com reviews of the 4K OT really hands the release its ass. Shame. Could’ve been a great source if they hadn’t tinkered so much.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Wars-Episode-IV-A-New-Hope-4K-Blu-ray/257142/

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Wars-Episode-V-The-Empire-Strikes-Back-4K-Blu-ray/257141/

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-4K-Blu-ray/257140/#Review

darklordoftech said:

ANH should have been Episode V at minimum so that there could be an additional movie before it about the formation of the Rebel Alliance.

Or they could have simply not made The Phantom Menace

If “piss poor” HDR means subtle, that’s exactly what i want for a classic film. Not something revisionist.

I’d be shocked if there was an 8K physical media format. It’s not even a guarantee that 8K TVs will become commonplace. I for one won’t be sitting 3 feet from a 100” TV so I can tell the difference.