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#106867
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Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
well i liked it, if you guys want to nitpik go ahead, i thought it was the best of the PT and better then ANH and ROTJ. es it has some flaws but overall the movie was fantastic, 4 out 5 stars from me. and the space battle as the begining was so cool. i lived how they took a page of The New Jedi Order books with the small robots attacking the fighters.


I'll agree with you on most points, Shimmy. 4 out of 5 stars... yes. Best of the PT... yes. Space battle cool... yes. Better than ROTJ... yes. Cool that they follow some ideas in the NJO... dunno, have only read one of the NJO books. Better than ANH... no. That's the only one I don't agree on. Otherwise, I enjoyed it immensely and I'm an OT purist. Call me a heretic, I don't care. I can like it and I do.
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#106863
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Luke's ROTS Review (plot holes included)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106863/action/topic#106863
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
Darth Vader walking like Frankenstein at the end and screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" (wow how many times have we seen that before)


The NOOOO was a little too much, but the Frankenstein walk was intentional. Lucas said in an interview I read a week ago that Hayden complained to him about how bulky and awkward the costume was and that he was having trouble moving in it. Lucas said "good" because he wanted it to look like someone who had just come out of major surgery with replacement limbs who was walking in a big, bulky armored suit for the first time which is exactly what it was supposed to be.

I agree with GL (God forbid, I know). I think it was well done and well thought out. The scream on the other hand...

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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
When Luke asks Leia if she remembers her mother "her real mother" she says yes. She continues to say that she was kind, very beautiful, but sad...

didnt Padme die after Leia was born??
now if your telling me... that she remembers that from when Padme named her before she died im gonna howl.. because theres no way you would remember as a baby if someone was sad or not....??? i dont even think a baby would know what sad is....


I explained this just a few minutes ago in another thread. Here goes again...

it's possible that they were created memories. I wonder how much of my childhood are legitimate memories and how much were created by my brain in response to photos I have seen and stories I've been told about events. It's possible that she created the image of her mother based on stories she heard and photos that she saw. No, Bail and his wife were not likely to have pictures of Padme around, but she was a Queen and a Senator so historical records would have her image in there somewhere along with rough accounts of her life. The rest could be Bail's description of her always being sad. Which she was a lot of the time when they were together because they watched together as the Republic crumbled and the galaxy fell into civil war.

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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
- ANH Ben says to Luke "your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough" (about anakin's lightsaber)

maybe its just me... i dont remember him saying that... do you?
and if your gonna tell me he said it off screen.... how would Anakin have known he was having a son???


A very small nit to pick. Isn't it obvious that Obi-Wan was trying to protect Luke and give him the impression that his father was a great man? He doesn't want Luke to know that Anakin and Vader are one and the same. So he trumps up Anakin to Luke and makes him seem like a great man who fell at the hands of an evil tyrant and whose final thoughts before dying were of his infant son. Pretty simple interpretation I would think.
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#106859
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ROTS: After the 2nd viewing... (possible spoilers)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106859/action/topic#106859
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Regarding the Leia thing... it's possible that they were created memories. I wonder how much of my childhood are legitimate memories and how much were created by my brain in response to photos I have seen and stories I've been told about events. It's possible that she created the image of her mother based on stories she heard and photos that she saw. No, Bail and his wife were not likely to have pictures of Padme around, but she was a Queen and a Senator so historical records would have her image in there somewhere along with rough accounts of her life. The rest could be Bail's description of her always being sad. Which she was a lot of the time when they were together because they watched together as the Republic crumbled and the galaxy fell into civil war.
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#106620
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Comics Fans
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106620/action/topic#106620
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Originally posted by: JediSage
Originally posted by: Bossk
Originally posted by: JediSage
Bossk: I read this yesterday. Definitely an interesting choice. I'll be interested to see if Grammer can succeed in anything besides Frasier. He's such a talented actor it's hard to believe he can't make something else work.


His talent is definitely not in question. He's got it in spades. But can we, the public, break our typecast image of him as Frasier Crane? 20+ years of playing the same character can do that to a person's career.


That's a really good point. J. M. Straczynski had an interesting take on that when he cast Walter Koening as Bester on B5 and fans were saying it would be Checkov on a space station. He basically said that the only thing people who get typecast do "wrong" is create a character that people will remember forever. Like Robert Deniro and Al Pacino. They always play gangster types or cops. I'm still seeing Pacino as Scarface on t-shirts and art prints now...all over the place.


I've got a subway sized poster of Pacino as Scarface in my office.
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#106584
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The Return of Six Degrees of Star Wars
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106584/action/topic#106584
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A good TV show about doctors that is going on hiatus until mid next season if NBC brings it back at all.

Judy Reyes (Bringing Out the Dead) Ving Rhames (Pulp Fiction) Samuel L Jackson

I would continue the theme with Zach Braff (Garden State with Natalie Portman), but that's more than just a bit obvious. As is Neil Flynn (The Fugitive with Harrison Ford).

So how about Christa Miller?
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#106572
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Comics Fans
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106572/action/topic#106572
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Originally posted by: JediSage
Bossk: I read this yesterday. Definitely an interesting choice. I'll be interested to see if Grammer can succeed in anything besides Frasier. He's such a talented actor it's hard to believe he can't make something else work.


His talent is definitely not in question. He's got it in spades. But can we, the public, break our typecast image of him as Frasier Crane? 20+ years of playing the same character can do that to a person's career.
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#106565
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Comics Fans
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106565/action/topic#106565
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Do we want this thread to double as the Comic Movie thread as well? The old one disappeared and I just wanted to post this from IMDb...

Grammer To Play Blue Beast in 'X-Men 3'
Fans of Kelsey Grammer are set to find him tough to recognize in his next project - he's playing a furry blue monster in the second X-Men sequel. In X-Men 3, the former Frasier star will play oversized mutant Beast, who has not yet appeared in any of the franchise's installments. While there has been a shocked reaction to Grammer's casting, producers of the movie insist he's the perfect choice for the part - because Beast is the most intelligent of all the mutants. Snatch star Vinnie Jones is also set to undergo a huge image overhaul when he plays villainous Juggernaut in the movie. His character is a 900 pound metal-clad battering ram. The sci-fi series stars Halle Berry, Ian McKellen, Famke Janssen, Hugh Jackman and Rebecca Romijn. The movie, to be directed by Matthew Vaughn, is set to debut in May next year.


Interesting casting choice, no?
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#106629
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Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106629/action/topic#106629
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Originally posted by: Asha
And why DIDN'T we see Yoda communicate with the Lars?


Perhaps it's just me, but I feel that scene would be completely unnecessary. If I were editing and that scene was in there, it would have been one of the first on the cutting room floor. Make your own assumptions about the scene. I don't think GL needs to handhold us through that one.

At my theater, it was overwhelmingly positive regarding the films. Lots of applause and laughter. Not a single bad word uttered on the way out.
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#106618
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My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106618/action/topic#106618
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Originally posted by: yanksno1
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Originally posted by: Bossk
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Originally posted by: yanksno1
I loved though how everything got rapped up and it felt like the OT. That Lucass did perfect. Overall, I really enjoyed the film and will see it again (when I'm not so tired). Need to take a nap when I get home from work tonight (going on almost 4 hours sleep).


Well, that's about one hour of sleep more than I got. And I will see it again. This will mark the first of the SW films I have seen more than once in theaters. At least that I recall.


Really? Even the OT or the prequils are you talking about? Ep I - I tried to see repeated viewings b/c in part I wanted to like it, but couldn't bring myself around to doing so. I also was in L.A. at the time it was out so I saw it in a really nice theater (coming from a college town w no big theaters). Ep II - I saw a couple times on a regular screen (like I said in my original post it was the best movie experience I ever had) and then saw it a 3rd on a digital screen. That was cool. Planning on seeing this a couple more times and once on a digital screen this memorial day weekend in Boston.


I was too young to take myself to the OT screenings multiple times. Heck, Jedi came out when I was 8. Couldn't quite drive at that time ad my parents never saw much point in seeing the same movies over and over. Still well before blockbuster mentality set in for the common masses. For the SEs, I only saw ANH and ESB (again, once). Never got around to seeing ROTJ. I dunno why. Just didn't. Timing, maybe? I'm pretty sure I was in school at the time, so maybe I had a schedule conflict? PT... I was too disappointed by TPM to see it more than once. AOTC I liked but never had anyone to see it with other than my brother. We saw it once but could never get it timed to see it again. Weird, eh? You would think that the junkie I am would have seen them all several times.

Maddog, that's a pretty good question... why not change his name if you're trying to hide him from his father. I really don't know.
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#106616
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Ric's Star Wars week
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106616/action/topic#106616
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Well, she didn't seem to be 5 or 6 months pregnant at all, not for someone carrying twins. It was more like 2 months. And then she delivers two huge twins which were obviously born at a 9 month pregancy. What gives? Well, probably the movie spans about 6 or 7 months.

And don't they have ultra-sonography in SW? She discovered she had twins at labor? And she DIES? What was that, they have a 1940s technology for delivering babies?


And you also have to remember that they are in an alternate galaxy. Who's to say that a month to them is the same as it is to us. Yes, her stomach may have been a bit small, but oh well.

So she dies. Bodies shut down sometimes. Losing the will is one explanation. But there are other possibilities the likes of which science even in a galaxy far, far away may not be able to explain. Just accept it and move on. No reason to jack yourself mentally over it. I can think of far worse things to worry about in the SW movies than that.
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#106615
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Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106615/action/topic#106615
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Originally posted by: Asha
* So Ben shows up with a baby at Owen Lars' joint and no one thinks twice. Oh ... except Ben Kenobi never met Owen and Beru, did he?! Anakin and Padme went to Tatooine in Clones, but Kenobi wasn't with them.


There's been a rumor floating about for years that Ben and Owen are actually cousins or related in some other way, shape, or form. I've heard it many times. Even if this were not the case, I'm sure Owen and Beru have communications devices on the homestead. Ben or Bail or someone else may have contacted them ahead of time. Just because we don't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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#106583
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Ric's Star Wars week
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106583/action/topic#106583
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I don't think the pregnancy was rushed. She revealed to him that she was pregnant when he returned after saving the Chancellor. But they also both said it had been a long time since they had been together and that it would have been even longer if he hadn't gone on this mission to save Palpatine. So, obviously, the conception happened during their last meeting which could have been any amount of time prior up to nine months taking into consideration that humans in this galaxy far, far away have a nine-month pregnancy term. Who really knows. She was showing when they met up by the landing platform.
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#106566
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My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106566/action/topic#106566
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Originally posted by: yanksno1
I loved though how everything got rapped up and it felt like the OT. That Lucass did perfect. Overall, I really enjoyed the film and will see it again (when I'm not so tired). Need to take a nap when I get home from work tonight (going on almost 4 hours sleep).


Well, that's about one hour of sleep more than I got. And I will see it again. This will mark the first of the SW films I have seen more than once in theaters. At least that I recall.
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#106558
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My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106558/action/topic#106558
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Originally posted by: Starboy
-I didn't hear a Screaming Wilhelm...did anyone else?


Yes, there was one. I can't remember the scene. I just remember hearing it and thinking, "ah, there's our boy, Willie!"

There was one thing I found kind of interesting. Anakin and Padme always talk about their "baby" in the singular. Obviously, neither knew that she was pregnant with twins. I like how that ties into ROTJ when Vader realizes "Sister! So you have a twin sister! Obi Wan was wise to hide her from me." I just remember reading before seeing the movie about how Anakin is told in ROTS that Padme is pregnant. And I was like, well how could he not remember the babies she was going to have when he becomes Vader and then just hunt them down from the very beginning? So GL hides it under the guise that neither knew she had twins. Even if he thought she still gave birth, one would be safe. But GL (and, thus, Obi Wan and Bail) even went a step further by still making her appear pregnant during the funeral procession. GL took that potential plothole and corked it right up. And I think he did a very decent job of it, too.
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#106548
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Star Wars - Episode III - The Revenge of the Sith; my thoughts on it...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106548/action/topic#106548
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Originally posted by: motti_soL
yes its me...

ive seen it and i love it! awesome movie!

dont know if there are threads about it already but i cant be bothered to look for them.

PS: sorry for not having been here in quite a while, i am truly sorry and believe me friends (you know who you are), you have been missed! look for me in the near future...


Holy Dear Sweet Mother of God!!! HE LIVES!!!!!!!

YES, it is Return of the Motti Day!!!

The MottiSignal (TM) does still work. The bulb was dimming and our electric bill is sky high, but it worked!!!

Oh, and I loved it, too!

MSD, regarding your negative point C about Palpy's makeup... in the theater I was at, everybody was laughing each time he showed up on screen. Here he is trying to convert Anakin to the Dark Side and people are laughing. And I can't say that I blame them. The makeup was just weird. Everything about his face was far too symmetrical. I was having visions of a really bad Gary Oldman as Dracula. The unevenness of the makeup in ROTJ made him that much freakier. Nobody laughed then.

And I also agree on your positive point C with the execution of Order 66. That was very well done and caught me completely off guard. Just watching all the Clones turn on the very Jedi that they had been working alongside of all those years was just wicked. One minute Commander Cody is handing Obi Wan his lightsaber. The next, he's ordering that he be shot down. The whole Order 66 sequence was my favorite part of the whole movie.
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#106547
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My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106547/action/topic#106547
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Oh phew! I started at the bottom of the list of updated threads which meant that I read the boycotting and the "meh" review threads first. I was starting to wonder if anyone liked the movie.

Well, suffice it to say, I did like it... a lot.

Ewan definitely made the movie. He brought humor, compassion, and wisdom to the movie that was sorely lacking in TPM and AOTC.

Hayden and Natalie weren't the best, but at least a bit better. And I did like Anakin's dream sequences. Well done, IMHO.

The cornball dialogue was at a minimum and Jar Jar was silenced.

The CG was much better this time around. Nothing really stood out too horribly except maybe for Obi Wan's lizard mount. It could have been worse if there hadn't been so much other stuff to see at the same time.

Grievous was absolutely pointless. I know the coughing is explained in the Clone Wars animated series, but how does that help the millions who were never able to see the toon? To them, it was just annoying. To me, it was annoying, and I know why it happened that way.

And am I the only one who's starting to feel sorry for Christopher Lee here? Cut entirely from the theatrical release of ROTK and offed early in ROTS. Man, he's just getting the shaft.

Oh, and I could have done without Vader's scream towards the end.