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#1023656
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Mavimao said:

Bobo Jameson said:

Alderaan said:

When did Lord Haseo jump the shark? I mean his views on the movies were always bad, but I remember him at least being pleasant about it. Now every post is **** this and you’re an ass that. Try being more civil and don’t take it so personal when people have different taste than you.

Edit: well, I guess the post about wanting to see Vader kill Jedi shines a light on things. The dark side is strong in this one.

The reason that Lord Haseo called malastrana an ass is because malastrana keeps talking out of his ass! Why is it that people that rates Rogue One a 0 out of 10 is pampered on this lousy ass forum?!

It’s not called being pampered, it’s called being civil. We are allowed to agree/disagree, preferably explaining why we feel what we feel.

Being uncivil is resorting to childish acts like namecalling. We refrain from that here.

Calling someone an ass when they clearly were one isn’t childish, it’s warranted. Don’t bitch and whine when someone calls you out and have your mother change your diaper it’s beginning to stink around here.

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Alderaan said:

When did Lord Haseo jump the shark? I mean his views on the movies were always bad, but I remember him at least being pleasant about it. Now every post is **** this and you’re an ass that. Try being more civil and don’t take it so personal when people have different taste than you.

Edit: well, I guess the post about wanting to see Vader kill Jedi shines a light on things. The dark side is strong in this one.

The reason that Lord Haseo called malastrana an ass is because malastrana keeps talking out of his ass! Why is it that people that rates Rogue One a 0 out of 10 is pampered on this lousy ass forum?!

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SilverWook said:

Bobo Jameson said:

Mavimao said:

Alderaan said:

Oh don’t mind me Mavimao, I’m only here for a day or two venting my frustration at watching another Star Wars film that disappointed me. I don’t begrudge anyone else a different opinion. Pretty soon I will go back to occasionally popping in only to check up on restorations of the OOT.

I guess I don’t understand what you expected. For years this was built up as “how the rebels stole the death star plans” and you complain that it’s a film about…people stealing plans to the death star.

I don’t think it’s perfect, but it’s perfectly watchable.

I’m sure there were people disappointed when they went to see Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samourai. “Hey I thought there was going to be some major ass kicking, but it’s just shots of a guy driving at night and mending his garden!”

Alderaan is a dick and it got what it deserved a long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. 😉

Knock it off.

That was obviously a fun little jab at a guy who’s a bit of a jerk. God almighty you pansies can’t take a little ribbing can ya?

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Mavimao said:

Alderaan said:

Oh don’t mind me Mavimao, I’m only here for a day or two venting my frustration at watching another Star Wars film that disappointed me. I don’t begrudge anyone else a different opinion. Pretty soon I will go back to occasionally popping in only to check up on restorations of the OOT.

I guess I don’t understand what you expected. For years this was built up as “how the rebels stole the death star plans” and you complain that it’s a film about…people stealing plans to the death star.

I don’t think it’s perfect, but it’s perfectly watchable.

I’m sure there were people disappointed when they went to see Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samourai. “Hey I thought there was going to be some major ass kicking, but it’s just shots of a guy driving at night and mending his garden!”

Alderaan is a dick and it got what it deserved a long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. 😉

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TV’s Frink said:

Bobo Jameson said:

There was a great quote in one of the reviews I read that said we, as a society, used to go to movies to wonder about the future (and the OT certainly fits that bill). Now we seem to be in love with reliving the past.

Back in the 70’s the movies were great, now they’re complete uninspired crap.

All this means is that you’re watching the wrong movies.

Nope!

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Mithrandir said:

Alderaan said:

Lord Haseo said:

Alderaan said:

Lord Haseo said:

These non Star Wars fans are the worst…

EDIT:

And you’re goddamn right I went there.

Do you really want to go somewhere else? We could also discuss how some people have incredibly poor taste in films, don’t understand anything about storytelling or filmmaking, and base their ratings of Star Wars movies on nothing more than how much **** can be crammed onto the screen that they’re familiar with from other films or novels for God knows what reason.

You don’t even understand the opening crawl of a film you claim to love. Fuck out of my face with that shit.

You’re asking for a ban man. What I do understand are people who are so vain, so into themselves, that they enjoy watching movies where their entire gratification comes from subconsciously going “ah I knew that was going to happen” and “I remember that in some other film I liked years ago” and “that was in _____ EU book I read!” and the like.

There was a great quote in one of the reviews I read that said we, as a society, used to go to movies to wonder about the future (and the OT certainly fits that bill). Now we seem to be in love with reliving the past.

I can’t help disagreeing strongly. There are tons of great movies and stories where you know what it is going to happen. Surprise is not an artistic value per se.

In fact, I would argue that there was a time when we went to the movies and theatres not giving a shit about knowing the ending, and still enjoyed it. And now all we got is just plain “oh, plot twist!”

Rogue One is a tragedy, because you know the unavoidable fate of the characters, yet you know they can do nothing about it.

Seen it three times by now, and I just keep liking it more and more. The Rebel Alliance feels like an actual military organisation. And we get to see that both Rebels and Empire have their internal political struggles, be it Tarkin/Krennic or Saw/Mon Mothma. It doesn’t feel monolithic anymore.

It’s a film that has the maturity the OT had, where characters understand each others with just eye contact and they don’t need to say everything, tho in the end yes, what ends up being key is the story and not the characters. I can’t see how that’s not the case in most of movies anyway.

And I don’t like the fact that this movie is getting so much trashing on the web, mainly because I really liked it and hope all the spinoffs take this approach and level, and not to have “character driven” spinoffs such as “origins of han solo”, “origin of boba fett”, “Vader”. And since I do not want Luke Skywalker or whoever they need to be re-cast, I won’t even dare to say a thing about CGI. Yes it was recognizable, but I’m enthusiastic on this tech, and hope they continue to pull it off.

Honestly cinema today, and actors are generally so crappy I’d rather have a CGI Alec Guinness or Peter Cushing all day.

Hell I couldn’t agree with you more. 😄

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There was a great quote in one of the reviews I read that said we, as a society, used to go to movies to wonder about the future (and the OT certainly fits that bill). Now we seem to be in love with reliving the past.

Back in the 70’s the movies were great, now they’re complete uninspired crap. I love the fact that Rogue One has some really great nostalgia to it while at the same time being different.

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BobaJett said:

FanFiltration said:

For some reason I did not like the bottom part of Darth Vader’s mask. It looked like a flexible rubber pull over to me. And Vader’s walking stride (gate) was noticeably different. Also the voice seems to have been processed quite differently as well.

I agree with your observation of his mask and thought it stuck out like a sore thumb. But, after pulling up some images from the OT, it seems very similar to this go around. I think what was going on in the OT is how he wore his cape. If you look at a few different scenes, often times his cape was covering a good portion of his chin/neck. Also, I think lighting had a lot to do with it. Im with you though, it still bugged me.

In the original Star Wars Vader’s helmet goes from down over the top part of his eye goggles when he’s talking to Leia on the Tantive IV to way further back on his forehead when he’s in his TIE Fighter later on.

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Tyrphanax said:

Tobar said:

The unseen Star Wars archive footage used in Rogue One

“We went to Skywalker ranch, and there’s the archives there,” Edwards told RadioTimes.com.
“And as we’re walking around, and doing all the cool things and looking at the Millennium Falcon and trying on Han Solo’s jacket and things like that, in the back at the bottom was all these cans of film. And we said ‘what are they?’ and they said ‘Oh, it’s Star Wars.’

“And you go… ‘has someone gone through all this? And it’s like ‘not really, they’re not fully like digitised at all.’”
Sensing an opportunity, Edwards got his hands on the film negatives, and realised he had the perfect chance for a subtle homage in his hands.

“We got the neg documents and found the clips from A New Hope that hadn’t been used,” he recalled. “And there’s pilot photography and lines that were never featured in A New Hope."

Now that’s cool. And also a bit sad that they’re not “fully digitized.”

Wonder what cool stuff is on those reels…

Same here.

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ZkinandBonez said:

I don’t really see why every character needs a backstory. When the whole point is to make a standalone movie where none of the characters will return in a sequel, the I don’t really see how backstory would be necessary unless directly related to the plot, e.g. Jyn’s relation to Galen.

I think RO can be fairly compared to movies like f.ex. John Carpenter’s The Thing in terms of how the characters are developed. What’s so brilliant about the writing of that film is that it never wastes any time explaining anyone’s backstory. All that we need to know about those characters are revealed to us through how they all cope with the same intense situation. There was never a “when I was a kid…” or “back home I was…” type of dialogue, all that we need to learn about their personalities comes from how they react to the crisis that is at the center film. That in my opinion is good economical writing. Granted, this method is not for every type of movie, but I think that this is the kind of story that RO tries to be. Which makes sense when you got a war movie focused on one specific threat and one specific important mission. RO isn’t really a “character film”, yet it still manages to explore several characters’ personalities and implied backgrounds based on how they behave throughout the story.

Also SW does have the benefit of having one of the most elaborate EUs in existence, so if you are just dying to know the life story of Chirrut or Bodhi, or any other character, I’m sure there’s going to be some novel or comic that will explore this at some point.

Well said.

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luckydube56 said:

TV’s Frink said:

Every time I see someone complain about how safe TFA was, and then I think of all the shit Disney got for a female lead, a black co-lead, and a Hispanic co-co-lead, when I think of the film killing off Han, when I think of the way the film tore up the ending of Jedi and tore up Han and Leia’s relationship (both in good, realistic ways), the way that Luke didn’t appear until the last scene…I have to laugh my ass off at that person.

Those weren’t really risks were they? They are an attempt to be more inclusive as the times would dictate any film with a large cast should be.

It’s pretty much a retro fit of Star Wars with an infusion of diversity. Diversity + a new story line altogether…now that would be a risk.

As for killing off Han, I guess you could say it was a risk. Every risk has a downside and they got the downside of it due to execution. K2SOs death is much more meaningful.

Killing off Han Solo in 1983 would’ve been a risk but in 2015 not so much. The killing of Han in The Force Awakens was still impactful though. I would’ve liked to have seen Return Of The Jedi the way that it was originally intended to be. It was originally going to be as dark as The Empire Strikes Back.

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LuckyGungan2001 said:

I don’t get the argument that the characters didn’t get enough background, such as not knowing how Baze and Chrrut met. Who cares how they met? You never find out the backstory of Jules and Vincent in Pulp Fiction, and those characters are still terrific. Hell, you never find out the backstory for Han and Chewy, and those characters are loved by all.

Well said.

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You know everyone I’m already thinking about the Blu-ray to this movie. I sure do hope that it’s chock-full of deleted scenes and the alternate ending with a concept art gallery, featurettes on Vader and the special/creature effects. That would be awesome. There’s about 20 minutes worth of deleted scenes from The Force Awakens that we never really got to see which is a shame. I just hope that we get to see more on the Rogue One Blu-ray and we probably will being as that it’s the first standalone Star Wars film.

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Tyrphanax said:

Much as I vehemently disagree with Mala’s often-repeated opinion on the post-Disney Star Wars films, I honestly don’t think he’s a troll asshole (he’s just wrong =P ). I just think he doesn’t like the movies. A shame, but definitely his right to do so.

It’s a shame you’ll probably be banned soon because you seem to be generally an okay guy, Bobo.

Well you have to admit that giving Rogue One a 0 out of 10 is just a little ridiculous. He goes on to say that Hacksaw Ridge is better. Two different movies, one is about fun with a little social commentary in it like how the good guys aren’t always saints without any blood on their hands and the other is a serious movie about a real-life war. His comparison of the two movies is laughable.

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MalàStrana said:

A complete negation of Star Wars in a boring and empty movie (almost nothing happens during the first 90 minutes), where characters are never constructed, have no story arcs, with terrible actors who deliver dialogues that are laughable (“save the rebellion… save the dream”… “rebellions are built on hope”… “I hate sand, it’s…” no, not this one, for a second I thought so…). It even beats Lucas on his own field of destroying continuity (rebels will become dumb and forget how to destroy Star Destroyer… so Leia is just above the planet where the shit happens ?.. oh, the death star is already operational then… so Tarkin is no longer arrogant at the end of SW, he’s plain stupid when we consider the efficiency of the rebel fleet: man, you really should evacuate you know !), but that’s not the worst, I can live with minor inconsistencies, as long as they are put in a decent movie. Rogue One is not. Not even close. Not only a terrible SW: it’s a terrible movie on its own. You want a true war movie, with emotion and war scenes with an insane creativity achievement, with layered characters and powerful themes ? Go watch Hacksaw Ridge. Rogue one is a dry piece of shit. In comparaison the awful episode 7 looks good (movie that I quite enjoyed at my first screening). I don’t blame Gareth: he never had the choice to make the good war movie he had in mind, the gap in quality with his interesting Godzilla is huge. I won’t even mention the lame fanservice (“blue milk… blue milk everywhere !”) and the ethical issue of recreating dead performances (great cgi, not perfect yet but this technology is amazing… pointless but amazing). I wanted so badly to like it, at least a few sequences, at least a few shots.

The special edition was the first stroke, but it still was Star Wars. The PT was a disappointment partially saved by the unique qualities of its third act in spite of key sequences completely failed, and it was for me the end of Star Wars, the second stroke, but it still was Star Wars, bad but unique and fascinating. The Disney Era is no longer Star Wars: the “Star Wars body snatcher” era. An insult to the saga and, by extension, to the Cinema. I’m really sad, but now it’s time for me to let it go.

0/10

Yet another troll asshole.

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bishabosha said:

Just seen this tonight for the first time. I have to say I loved the pacing, and Edwards was very good at adding tension to the action and raising the stakes. The Scarif orbital shield, Vader’s castle (I know not new) and Jeddah were all ideas pulled from the original concepts for TFA (from the art-book,) which I got super excited about the more I saw, maybe we’ll see more ideas from that book in VIII.

The space battle was thrilling, however I found it a bit odd and OP that the hammerhead could trash two star destroyers just by pushing them together.

I hated the stupid throwaway cameos (R2, 3PO, Dr Evazan), it felt worse for breaking immersion than even the CGI added to Mos Eisley in ANH.

CG Actors - The intro shot of Tarkin turning around was a dead giveaway for CG, but I think his other scenes looked convincing, I think it just depended what lighting he was in.

Leia however just looked robotic and the lingering shot was weird, maybe it was just the single word said.

The Darth Vader texas chainsaw massacre was absolutely stunning and terrifying. However the shot of him watching the Tantive IV jump to hyperspace destroys the continuity - how could Leia pretend not to be part of the rebellion when her ship had just undocked and flew out of a battle with her crew knowing that Vader witnessed them??

I do think the knowledge that the scenes and dialogue from the trailers was removed has jaded me, particularly as I went to Star Wars Celebration and the anecdote Edwards gave about recording with James Earl Jones saying ‘power’ didn’t really happen, well at least the word was said by Vader, but not with any emphasis so I really hope the original cut was trash, because I really enjoyed what we got in the theatre.

The Vader Texas Chainsaw Massacre?! What the hell? And nothing is as bad and hokey as the special edition Mos Eisley scenes in Star Wars. Well maybe the two changed musical numbers in Return Of The Jedi.

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Bobo Jameson said:

flametitan said:

I got back from it. I rather enjoyed it, but I think I need a little while longer to process it.

The biggest thing I enjoyed (from a worldbuilding perspective) is that when they discuss the weakness of the death star, it implied the Thermal Exhaust Port, but it didn’t outright say it. He said the Death Star was rigged to explode based on the way the reactor was put together.

I don’t know, but I always feel like people overhype the actual port as far as the flaw goes, when really it was just a convenient access point.

Rogue One does require multiple viewings and I’m so glad that it’s being enjoyed by so many! 😄

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flametitan said:

I got back from it. I rather enjoyed it, but I think I need a little while longer to process it.

The biggest thing I enjoyed (from a worldbuilding perspective) is that when they discuss the weakness of the death star, it implied the Thermal Exhaust Port, but it didn’t outright say it. He said the Death Star was rigged to explode based on the way the reactor was put together.

I don’t know, but I always feel like people overhype the actual port as far as the flaw goes, when really it was just a convenient access point.
Rogue One does require multiple viewings and I’m glad that it’s being enjoyed by so many! 😄

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SilverWook said:

Bobo Jameson said:

SilverWook said:

Bobo Jameson said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

Lord Haseo said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

Lord Haseo said:

And just like that I’m sad. Thanks for that.

TFA wasn’t perfect but neither is RO. I’d argue the problems with RO are more glaring than TFA. And some, like this, you have to think about a little more.

That type of thinking can enable me to poke a million hopes in the OT as it suffers from that type of writing too. Even if those films didn’t have shit like that in them you’re overthinking it. It’s a chaotic encounter in a narrow, dark hallway. Vader was probably fixated on blast deflection and just trying to kill everyone instead of devoting useful mental resources to think about one Rebel.

So…he was just trying to kill everyone? Not get the plans? And that’s why he stares at the Tantive IV as it takes off? Because he didn’t get to kill more people?

Riiiiiiight.

Hey digitalfreaknyc, go watch the CinemaSins episodes of the original Star Wars trilogy on YouTube.

Hey Bobo, familiarize yourself with the rules around here, and stop trying to pick a fight with people who’ve been on this forum longer than you have.
http://originaltrilogy.com/announcement/Guidelines-for-Post-Content-and-General-Behavior-Or-How-Not-To-Get-Banned/id/12074

Um I think that the other guy is trying to pick a fight and stirring up crap. I’ve done nothing!

Don’t bring outside forum drama in here either.

I’m not bringing in drama. I was just kind of taken aback by how that guy can try to make trouble on yet another forum as he said himself “throwing a monkey wrench into” a scene in Rogue One that people already holds dear.

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SilverWook said:

Bobo Jameson said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

Lord Haseo said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

Lord Haseo said:

And just like that I’m sad. Thanks for that.

TFA wasn’t perfect but neither is RO. I’d argue the problems with RO are more glaring than TFA. And some, like this, you have to think about a little more.

That type of thinking can enable me to poke a million hopes in the OT as it suffers from that type of writing too. Even if those films didn’t have shit like that in them you’re overthinking it. It’s a chaotic encounter in a narrow, dark hallway. Vader was probably fixated on blast deflection and just trying to kill everyone instead of devoting useful mental resources to think about one Rebel.

So…he was just trying to kill everyone? Not get the plans? And that’s why he stares at the Tantive IV as it takes off? Because he didn’t get to kill more people?

Riiiiiiight.

Hey digitalfreaknyc, go watch the CinemaSins episodes of the original Star Wars trilogy on YouTube.

Hey Bobo, familiarize yourself with the rules around here, and stop trying to pick a fight with people who’ve been on this forum longer than you have.
http://originaltrilogy.com/announcement/Guidelines-for-Post-Content-and-General-Behavior-Or-How-Not-To-Get-Banned/id/12074

Um I think that the other guy is trying to pick a fight and stirring up crap. I’ve done nothing!