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#229447
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What did the PT need?
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I like how anyone whose seen the movies can come up with a better plot in ten minutes. This was his "vision" that he's been planning out over all this time? Sure, he didn't really have it all written down, but he must have been thinking it over throughout the years. And this was the best he could do?

Really shows how much work he put into it.
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#229064
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What did the PT need?
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I don't think they should have ever even said that Padme was pregnant. To backtrack, they should of shown Vader killing some of the Jedi, but not all. I'm sure we could have filled in the gap by ourselves, when we see how, twenty years later, they're all but extinct. Anyway, if there had been a few Jedi left by the end of the PT, and the last time we see Padme she ISN'T pregnant, we hear that Luke's father was killed by Vader and we never hear his name until ROTJ... You still keep the surprise. And even then, we wouldn't suspect that he has a sister.

But I think Anakin should have been from Tatooine. Owen's a farmer, and by the way he talked about the Jedi, I just assumed that's the way it had always been. I don't think he would have been out on Naboo flying around with Anakin. Because no one would want to move to Tatooine to start up a moisture farm. Unless of course he was just doing it to hide Luke's identity. But if he had done all that for Luke, I think he would have been a little friendlier to the kid.
So, I have to assume that Owen's from Tatooine and, being that they're about the same age, he must have been really good friends with Anakin. Anakin must have done something important, like save Owen's life, so that when Obi-Wan comes to him with Anakin's son, he agrees to take him in. And, if he's done something big, he must have done it with Obi-Wan around, or he'd never think to bring Luke to him in the first place.
But, then that contradicts Obi-Wan's statement in ROTJ. Anakin can't be the best pilot in the galaxy when he met him, because he's just a little kid (already excluding the pod racing because a kid shouldn't be driving one of those and even if he can, it doesn't make him the best pilot in the galaxy). What could he do on Tatooine that makes him a great pilot? What could he do to impress Obi-Wan so much that he's convinced that Anakin is the galaxy's greatest pilot? Honestly, I don't care. So, for this, I'd be fine with them screwing over the OT. And it's only ROTJ, so it's not that big of a deal.

As for Yoda, I think they shouldn't have shown him at all. They should have just mentioned that he's their most powerful Jedi every once and awhile throughout the PT. Have him live off world, on some planet with no other sentinent beings. If he's that powerful and old, he probably doesn't care about sitting around discussion trade route politics. And that way, by the time you get to ESB, it's an even bigger surprise when you find out who the Jedi's most powerful Jedi is. Oh, and have someone mention that Yoda's dying. That way, Vader has no reason to hunt him down (even though he goes to hide on Dagobah, just in case). So, you assume he's dead by the time the OT comes around. But then you see him in ESB and by ROTJ you find out he's prolonged his life using the Force. But after twenty something years, he can't extend it any further.

As for Anakin's age at the begining of the PT... If he's the main character, he should be in his twenties. But I still say Obi-Wan should be the main character. And there needs to be a big chunk of time spent training in there. In the OT, they're desperate. At the height of their power, I'd think they would spend a lot more time training them and teaching them their philosophy. You could make it so that he's already in the Order and has already had years of training, but I kind of liked seeing how he joined them. I could really go either way, though. My only problem with him in TPM was that he was just an annoying little brat. Had they taken that out and hadn't had him following the main characters around throughout the rest of the movie, I would have been fine with him.
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#228686
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News on the TV Series if Anyone Cares.
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In a for better or worse predicament for fans of Star Wars, George Lucas is spearheading the program, and will be involved in the whole process for the show. As a benefit for this involvement, we are promised that every episode will be like a short film, with quality that we have never seen in an animated program (made for television) before.


...Because the original Clone Wars series just didn't suck enough, GL will step in and take care of this himself.
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#228386
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The last time you saw one of the Star Wars films
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A couple days ago. I found out my little sister's never seen the OT (God knows how that happend). She ended up seeing Episode 1 somehow and thought all of Star Wars must be awful. So I had to sit her down last week and force her to watch the first two (I don't have an edited copy of ROTJ, and I'm not about to let her watch the DVD version). She really liked them. And when I asked about the Greedo situation, she told me it was obvious that Greedo was about to kill him. She didn't think any less of Han because of it, but she still thinks he's an asshole.
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#228269
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No explanation necessary (but we got one anyway)
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I don't like how they showed Palpatine's face getting deformed, the Republic turning into the Galactic Empire with Palpatine placing himself as Emperor, the construction of the Death Star and Vader putting on the suit.. It's like, they had to sum up everything at the end of the trilogy because we wouldn't have been able to fill in the gap. "Huh? Why do they calling him Vader? That's not what Darth Vader looks like. Who is that?".

So all that happends in between is that they age twenty years.
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#228196
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Lucas: I can make just as much money with less effort
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I also liked this part:

KURTZ: ...I've felt that what's happened is that the working producer's job – basically, of being the director's partner and being his mirror and sounding bound – has disappeared and the producer's job has primarily turned to deal making. Most of the people whose names you see up on the screen don't have anything to do with the making of the film, which is a shame, really, because it leaves the director kind of totally on his own – and it means also that there's no one to say "Wait a minute, that's terrible, don't do that!"

IGNFF: There're no 'no-men' anymore.

KURTZ: There're no 'no-men'. Yes, exactly.
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#228102
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What did the PT need?
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-Needed to pick an audience. If you begin a trilogy with fart jokes and silly droid antics you can't end it with the main character butchering children and having the flesh burned from his body.

-Needed a new protagonist. You can't have two-thirds of one trilogy about Anakin, the next trilogy about Luke and then have the whole thing about Anakin. It's all or nothing. The focus of the first should move to Obi-Wan.

-Needed real sets/characters. I don't care how state of the art their CGI is, it looks very fake. I can live with ANH's wolfman, but Jar Jar looks painted on. Even now the OT aliens hold up. Some of them look goofy, but it just adds to the charm.

-Needed a different writer. Not to be mean, but I have a hard time believing that anyone read over that script. Even GL. The plot, dialoge... All of it. It was just garbage. It contradicted itself and the OT so many times that I have to just assume that he's never watched the original movies.

-Needed to get rid of the OT allusions: We don't need to see Boba, baby Greedo, Yoda, Jabba, Vader in his suit, C3-PO, R2-D2, Luke or Leia (I think I'm forgetting some...) to know what series we're watching. That's not a clever in-joke to all the Star Wars fans, that's... for lack of a decent vocabulary, stupid. Feels like they're using them for support. And... well, they are.

-Needed to stop ruining all the big surprises/plot points that make up the OT. It's a completely different trilogy. Make up some new material. It wouldn't have been that hard to side step most (and by most, I mean all) of those.

-Needed to tone down the fantasy and make the fights look a lot more realistic. It's all Jedi, twirling around yelling out puns. Remember the invasion of Hoth? The attacks on the Death Star? Now those were fight scenes.

-Needed to stop switching Sith every movie. Pick one and stick with him.

-Needed to lose the prophecy bulls**t. Someone, thousands of years ago, foresaw that Anakin would be born and that he would bring balance to the Force for about twenty years? Give me a break.

-Padme shouldn't have died just because she's sad. That doesn't make sense and that rips another hole in the continuity.

-Needed to drastically reduce the number of Jedi. Enh... It's too late to explain this one.

-Needed to cut out the midichlorians (sp?). Obviously.
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#227632
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20 years ago, would anyone believe...
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-That Samuel L. Jackson would play a large role in the PT (Though I don't think there's any point in time where I'd believe that)

-All of the humor in the movies would consist of fart jokes and "slapstick" antics

-The PT would make Yoda look less realistic.

-C3-PO had 'puns' programmed in when he was first created by the Dark Lord of the Sith.

-The PT would focus on the political scheming of politicians.

-The Force doesn't exist.
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#227478
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Star Wars prequel Box set
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I don't see why he didn't just release the movies on DVD individually, then release a box set, then release a "special edition" box set with all six movies and then, a year later, finally release a "super special edition" with the box set and countless hours of extras and the original, unaltered trilogy as a bonus (and charge twice as much as the last set).

I mean, has he gone soft over the years? What happend?
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#227213
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OT.com = TFN?
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I see no reason for someone who posts "I never plan on watching the PT again" to even be posting in the PT forums.


The comment in question was in a topic talking about the whole series. It asked which order you like to watch them in. I think I said I usually only watch it 4-6 and threw in that comment. I held back because explaining why would make me sound like I'm just there to troll (the PT ruined a lot of characters for me, it ripped a bunch of plot hole into the story, ruins most of the surprises, it makes me hate Star Wars, etc.).

I said worse stuff than that, but I'm just surprised that that was what did it. Nothing I posted on there was even that bad. Pretty tame stuff, overall. I think I only had about 5 or 6 posts on there. But they said "This user account and its posts since registering set off bells and whistles for us".

Well, at least that explains why everyone there loves the PT so much. Seems everyone else was banned...

EDIT: If he had said "Trolling. 3 day ban. Read the rules" I probably would have been fine with it. But this just sounds like "Enh... I don't like your tone. Bye bye".
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#227014
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OT.com = TFN?
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I know I keep going on about TFN, but I was just reading another post asking which was the better love story, Anakin/Padme or Han/Leia... I'm sure you know where this is going.

my favorite romance is now without a doubt Anakin and Padme.. Their story has more of an emotional impact. The forbidden love. The secrecy. They have a deep special love for each other, and the outcome of their love is so heartbreaking. In the reunion scene Anakin can hardly keep his hands off her, risking being seen because he has to hold her, kiss her...


And that post isn't unique. The vast majority of them are for Anakin and Padme. I'm seriously starting to think that the people over there watched a different set of movie than me.

WARNING: Your brain may explode