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#761898
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Info: I can do a fan restoration / preservation / edit of any film you want...
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Natch.

If you want a more straight forward project with a bit of contemporary interest how about integrating the deleted scenes from Twin Peaks : Fire Walk With Me maybe mixing in some of the pilot and the final episode and turning the extended film into two or three 'missing' episodes of the show?

With Lynch currently out of the picture with the follow up series it would be a fine booby prize.

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#761776
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Info: I can do a fan restoration / preservation / edit of any film you want...
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Interstellar does feel like it's film in Oblivovision.

I liked the Bang and Olufsen version of VINcent and old BOB though.

Maybe a multi-mashup of Planet of the Apes, Deep Impact, Armageddon, The Happening and half a dozen other films could be mashed in as well as the others I mentioned to make a prequel to Firefly.

There's an environmental disaster of some kind. People start putting themselves in the woodchipper. NASA sends teams to the wormhole to seek out a new home. Loads them into the space arks (O'Neill cylinder things). They all end up setting up the civilisation seen in Serenity.

Tubby Matt Damon could be the precursor of the Reavers.

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#761568
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Info: I can do a fan restoration / preservation / edit of any film you want...
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Congrats on the the Lotto win.

If you could do a restoration of Legion aka Exorcist 3 so it's in line with William Peter Blatty's original cut I will declare you a saint.

It's a bit difficult because Morgan Creek have 'lost' the deleted materials but you could go back in time and save them.

Short of that a cut of Interstellar which isn't an awful mashup of Signs, Sunshine and Contact and is worthy of the confusingly high ratings it got would be nice (as it stands it's still marginally less crap than Prometheus 0.5 balls).

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#760152
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Thanks.

The general idea was that the two new characters would be the Rosencrantz & Guildenstern of the PT.

They would have a small cameo scene in each film reflecting the situation that the whole order is in.

The old teacher would be killed by Vader (the final lesson, how to die) and his pupil would die deleting Dagobah from the archive records saving a certain Jedi Master.

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#760065
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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In the mode I penned this little exposition scene which could be dropped into TPM.

Ancient Jedi : "Try to keep up!"

Youngling : " Sorry but this floor is slippery, is it new?"

Ancient Jedi: "New? This temple was ancient when the Republic was young" (The Youngling is clearly confused) "It's very, very old"

Youngling : "Older than you?"

Ancient Jedi : "Considerably"

Youngling : " but it's not worn down"

Ancient Jedi : "I wish I could say the same for myself. Do you mind if I sit for a bit, I shouldn't really...?"

Youngling : "I won't tell"

Ancient Jedi : "They built things to last, The Sith" (The Youngling is confused again) "This was their stronghold, their fortress, for a thousand generations the Jedi have occupied this place but for a thousand generations before that this was theirs and the entire galaxy with it. A terrible place of evil, pain and death, it's said to be haunted."

Youngling : "I don't believe in phantoms."

Ancient Jedi : "Good for you, neither do I, I think...."

Youngling : "Why do the Jedi live here if it's so bad, not that I'm scared."

Ancient Jedi: "Conquest is won through confrontation, that's what the Sith believed and that's what we believe too. To conquer fear you must confront it."

Youngling : "Feeling better?"

Ancient Jedi : (getting back to his feet and continuing down the corridor) : " That was your first lesson by the way, not that you even noticed and how do you feel?"

JEDI COUNCIL CHAMBER EVENING :

Anakin Skywalker : "Cold Sir...."

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#760064
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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I hope he doesn't mind (he doesn't come here much anymore) but I was in conversation with SSWR back in 2009 regarding the "Chosen One" prophecy and the Sith.

Here were some of my thoughts back then.

LPSDRIYDW2

Bingowings said :

One of the few EU ideas I really like is the holocron.

We know nothing about the Sith and what they want revenge for, the tax explanation for the Naboo crisis is frankly dull, there is an important prophecy motivating much of how the Jedi treat Anakin which adds to his fall and their role in the greater galaxy is limited to a Republic that doesn't cover the entire area.

I've thought about this in regards to my linear approach to Episode One but it could applied either way.

Think of the PT as the foreseen approach of an end of times scenerio.

People who believe prophecies about the end of the world usually look for the signs and those who are more skeptical dismiss those same events as being just coincedences.

The Temple could be seen as being like the Vatican, with some bishops and cardinals waiting for the coming of the apocalypse, the rise of the Antichrist, the return of Christ and seeing portents in current events while the majority preach caution.

Some Jedi (like Qui-Gon and Dooku) believe that the Sith are returning, the chosen one is coming and an apocalypse of galactic proportions is on the horizon, while others like Yoda and Mace are being cautious.

Qui-Gon sees the Naboo crisis as a sign that the prophecy is about to be fulfilled, he is already on the look out for the chosen one and if he is around the Sith are around too.

Having a holographic representation of the prophecy which either the council or Qui-Gon could review would help the audience understand something of the nature and limitation of and divisions between the Sith and Jedi ranks as well as the importance of the chosen one legend (which is key to why they are so crappy to Anakin most of the time).

The OT had a rich backstory which propelled and added flavour to the main story.

The PT is that backstory gone into detail so it needs a replacement backstory to serve the same purpose.

The Holocron recording need not be seen in one viewing.

Qui-Gon might view a bit about a conflict on a small world in relation to the Naboo crisis, and later watch another bit later to match some other development in the plot but it would add weight to why Qui-Gon is so adamant that Anakin should be trained and Mace and Yoda don't want him to be while giving us subtle exposition on the background picture.

The idea of having a tour around the building doesn't really appeal as a story telling device.

All those tours of Hogwarts bogged down the early Potter films for me, the later ones which took it for granted showed the building off better and served as an interesting backdrop without getting in the way.

I think that the reason 'the chosen one' aspect of the story doesn't currently work is because it's just dropped in and not backed up.

Clearly like so much in Star Wars it's part ripped off from Dune where the whole prophecy thing is explored from lot's of different angles, some of which contradict each other but also backs up the story rather than trips up the story.

Yoda in ESB warns Luke about the dangers of predicting the future, that it's in motion and open to mis-interpretation, it would be interesting if that was a lesson he himself had to learn the hard way rather than some empty Jedi catechism.

It would be fun to try and design some ancient Jedi Oracle to deliver the prophecy.

It would also be fun seeing the Sith with the same prediction reading it the other way around and that both things come true in a way that neither side understood until it was too late.

There is a tradition in stories of this kind of foretold events that everyone knows about but only a few people believe in anymore.

The return of Sauron in LOTR, the return of the Shadows in B5, the coming of the Antichrist/return of Christ in Christian based horror films like The Omen, the return of King Arthur.

So all Jedi would know about the prophecy but some would see it as just a legend or maybe a prediction of some long off event.

Qui-Gon and Dooku both believe it about to happen as does Palpatine but everyone has a different take on what it actually means.

While we are talking about the temple what do you think happened to it during the years of the Empire?

Did Palpatine destroy it? Defile it by turning into a palace or a fortress for his secret police?

I mentioned in my comments on your mockup of the end of ROTJ that it might be interesting to see it covered in scaffolding being restored for Luke and Leia to use (I don't like the EU Yavin IV thing).

It's always been assumed that the Sith are an off-shoot of the Jedi.

Even the official EU takes this line.

What if it was the other way around?

What if the Sith ran things in the dark days of Galactic civilisation and the Jedi emerged when Force sensitive people started to learn their tricks and turn them against them.

If the Sith were once the masters of the universe and the Jedi sent them back into the shadows for a thousand generations they would have a big enough beef to warrant revenge, especially if the earliest Jedi were just as ruthless as the Sith and only mellowed with all those years of peace and respect on the side.

It would tie in with Mace saying, "The oppression of the Sith will never return!".

It would be more interesting if there was a rebellion and the rebels learned the secrets of the Force from interogating Sith and capturing their archives (the Jedi archives could be built upon the much older Sith archives).

Force sensitive children would then be taken from their families and trained to serve what would later become the Republic instead of the Sith Empire.

These would later become the Jedi.

Your guide could dress this up using euphemistic language but basically the first Jedi were kidnapped, indoctrinated freedom-fighters (much like radicalised terrorists).

Something that could stick in Anakin's mind and turn around as he got older into a further and reasonable excuse to change sides.

Christianity was born during a time of occupation. Jesus' teachings are all about forgiveness and non-violence but the religions that recognise him as a teacher historically have proved to be very violent and vindictive.

The Jedi may be the same but in reverse.

An aggressive martial religion that mellowed into being more peaceful and restrained as the original threat that formed them slid into the shadows and hid in the background.

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#758685
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The Unofficial Complete REVISITED SAGA Ideas and Random Discussion Thread
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One film is too short to take in all these endings and remain plausible.

Jabba, Vader and the Emperor have been there since the first film so it makes sense that the last film is where their journey ends.

Yoda was introduced in the previous film. In the current cut of the movie his death is frankly ricdiculous (essentially holding on to the beginning of the second act so he can die mid-sentence without finishing his training of Luke).

But Fett too? (and Piett and the Empire)

Fett is a bounty hunter. Unless he has some reason to be in the film (hunting bounty) he serves no purpose and his death compounds the implausible convenience of all these loose ends being tide up at the same time.

Having him taken down by Han (for example) would be more dignified for Fett but betray the character arc of his polar opposite Han.

Anyway my feelings on the topic are documented enough. It's Ady's project not mine. I hope he manages to pull off the changes effectively.

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#758684
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The SW Saga of 1975: ATM's Take
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I was watching the un-aired pilot for Lost in Space last night and I was struck by how the design of the thing and the superb (for their day) production values reminded me of some of the design drawings for the first two films. It also reminded me of some the Archie Goodwin strips.

The show in general may have had some sort of influence maybe after the first film had been shot.

Jonathan Harris and Anthony Daniels do sound similar which might have influenced Lucas to drop the oily car salesman voice he was going to dub over the footage and it's not that huge a leap from a chimp with big ears to Yoda.