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I can't shake this image out of my mind after that :

From an audience perspective everyone having the potential to wield the Force is more attractive.

These films were designed to appeal to children of all ages so gifting that audience with that potential (albeit fictional) is an aid to making an empathic bond with the protagonist.

We aren't meant to relate to nobility but look up to them. We are meant to relate to boy and girl next door characters.

Having it a skill that only a bloodline of mutants can do is sort of half there because the little kid in the audience may be able to imagine themselves a potential mutant lacking a Jedi Master.

ATMachine said:

sunglassesatnite said:

How I pictured Anakin pre-PT:

As a wise, pragmatic, passionate starfighter pilot and Jedi Knight who was seduced by the Dark Side by a force more powerful than himself

How I would not have pictured Anakin, EVER, pre PT:

As a pre-teen (or twenty-something) empty-headed idiot of low birth and low character who was "drafted" into the Jedi based on a "hunch" by a malcontent who was himself not highly regarded

 "Low birth"? I didn't realize that heroes born into poverty weren't really heroes somehow. :P

This is the problem when you apply a fable code to a modern film series. Most fables were formulated in Feudal times so being of an aristocratic background was essential, even if that origin is hidden. The folk hero Robin Hood becomes the displaced noble Robert of Locksley. Arthur is the hidden King that will unite the land raised as the squire of a minor Knight. Cinderella is the true inheritor of her father's fortune. Perseus and Jesus are sons of Gods.

This doesn't chime well with a modern audience raised to believe in the myth of meritocracy. That anyone can if they apply the effort achieve remarkable things. The American Dream.

Arguably the pre-ROTJ Force was such a merit based power. The reason we don't have Jedi is we don't have Jedi masters to school us in the Force. Even a farm boy on a planet in the middle of nowhere can become a Jedi.

In ROTJ the power of inheritance is introduced and Luke's sister is a Princess but she is an adopted Princess so she might be still 'low born'.

In the PT Luke and Leia are the offspring of royalty and a demi-God.We have gone from the age of Aquarius back to the age of Dragons. Luke is no longer Uri Geller with Kung-Fu moves, now he's a royal prince with magic blood.

Threepio doesn't get a mind wipe at the end of ROTS but instead just calls out all the continuity errors between the PT and the OT and announces the dumbass SE additions as well in the most camp way possible.

Like Emory from Boys in the Band.

I list my edit proposals for Ady's edits here. Maybe you can steal something of use from them.

My old man was a dustman, we lived in a council house...

Anyway one day he pulled a perfectly functioning record player out of a dustbin and it came with two singles.

One was some guy who sounded like David Bowie but called himself Ziggy something and sang a song called Life on Mars?

The other was this.

Cilla Black 72.

I can't find anything pre-Sept 2004. The thread refers to earlier threads so it's not the first but I'm not sure if the tools to search chronologically exist.

Happy to read earlier posts.

Tobar your images are not showing and yes that was long ago speculated to be a flipped over Super Stardestroyer.

kane1138 said:

chromesteel - I've PMed you an invite to a certain body-part website (not porn).

 I miss the days when we would have fun speculating on the this :-(

Bum rides mean something else in other places :-D

In the hope of ending this edible animal strand but at the risk of extending it, killing and eating animals is the same thing be they things considered pets in the West or not. This is the internet, it's an open forum. As someone who doesn't eat animals at all I am as distressed by a roast chicken as I am at a roasted cat.

I discovered today that my sainted great grandmother used to drown kittens. This fresh revelation has really weirded me out but cats served a function in rodent control in the past. Excess numbers of cats would be unsustainable and paying for a vet to call an end to the reproductive life of a cat would have been expensive. But I can't shake the idea of my lovely nan holding new born kittens underwater.

"What has this got to do with Star Wars?", I perceive you asking.

The original post  in this strand was on topic being a roasted Jar-Jar.

Silverwook was right to consider the feelings of people who don't like to see gore or animal flesh prepared for consumption but to take particular offence based on a Western, 21st century view of the human relationship with animals is running the risk of alienating people who visit the pages from the future or the past... or other planets.

Or as an dear old friend sadly seldom seen these days would say "double standards".

The footage here may distress some readers as it shows the consumption of live animals : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiD-n7ewvGo

Thanks for the clip. My only slight critical observation is there is a more noticeable jump from the 3D panned version of the Bespin power station thingy to the set than was the case with the original 2D panned version to my eyes.

I don't know if adding some sort of motion to the introduction to first appearance of the set would neutralise it. Should such a thing be deemed necessary. But well done all round.

Hooray for the return of Vader's sulky Shuttle demands.

It's not dead. It's just pining for the Harrisons.

I'd prefer his No to be replaced with "Ouch!"

Oops...

How do you sink a planet?  :-D

Less reliably, rumour has it he tried to talk Peter Cushing out of doing the Dalek films too.

But then as Gary said :

Gary Russell wrote the Rassilon sequences of Paul McGann's audios with Christopher Lee in mind and sent it to his agent.

Gary Russell said : “But his agent laughed at me. Apparently there was no way he'd do anything as silly as Doctor Who. We'd actually written Rassilon with Christopher Lee in mind, so I was quite disappointed. I thought 'Of course, he's a fantastic actor, but he's done so crap in his time.' To be told he wouldn't even consider doing Doctor Who – well, I thought that was quite a strange reaction.”

So it ended up being performed by Don Warrington, the role would later be played by Timothy Dalton.

I'm certainly interested in this one.

Is it available in the usual places?

Normally I would suggest a thread merge but this part is too wonky.

SilverWook said:

Ye gods! Kicking Nazi ass with Ian Fleming?!  Lee's WWII exploits would make for a damn good film!

http://wordsofdiana.tumblr.com/post/78578811456/notthedroidyouarelookingfor-lotr

And the title is a no brainer.

 Patrick Troughton's war would be a cool movie too. Maybe someone could do a miniseries about the hidden lives of that generation. Noel Coward's life of espionage crossed over with Ian Fleming and Jon Pertwee used to advise Winston Churchill.

But Mr Lee wasn't a Doctor Who fan.

Count Dooku died a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.

He was a bit of rotter too. The man who murdered him died as well and the old bloke that was their boss.

He got thrown down a hole in the floor that had no other purpose being there.

His former employee fell down a hole in the floor too but that might have served some sort of purpose what with it being a high tech power station attached to a space ship garage attached to a Royal palace.

Terrible news about Mr Lee and today we also lost Ron Moody 91.

**UPDATE**

Cripes Ornette Coleman 85 too. What a crappy day!

Maybe Threepio uses that hand for Millennial Falconry.

I think you'll find you were all me long before anyone was a team.

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1) Great news about the plasticine.

2) I hope you are clearing the swamp of trees fast.

3) Ady do you think the X-wing turbine needs tinkering or is fine as it is?

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