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- #258138
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- Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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Originally posted by: adywan
Trooperman, there may be a way to amke the dialogue more natural sounding without having to re-record the whole lot again.
Play the dialogue through a pair of ordinary stereo speakers with minimal bass, but not too much treble to make it sound tinny, in a small to medium sized room. Don't have the volume set too loud, just enough for the mic to be able to pick the dialogue up without creating background hiss. Place a mic about 2 - 6 feet away from the speakers Depends on the room size ect so a bit of trial and error to get the best sound here). Now play the complete dialogue track and record it using the mic (don't forget, like i did once, to have a timecode tone at the beginning so you can sync it with the main dialogue track at a later stage). Once you have the recording finished sync this new track with the original and play about with the mix levels until you get a natural sounding dialogue track. Maybe a slight reduction in the bass frequencies on the original track may eliminate the "too close to the mic" effect that you mentioned. You get a more natural reverb effect this way which could help bring the new ADR more inline with the original studio track.
Its a bit of trial and error with this method but it can help recreate that "on set" sound.
hope this helps
Trooperman, there may be a way to amke the dialogue more natural sounding without having to re-record the whole lot again.
Play the dialogue through a pair of ordinary stereo speakers with minimal bass, but not too much treble to make it sound tinny, in a small to medium sized room. Don't have the volume set too loud, just enough for the mic to be able to pick the dialogue up without creating background hiss. Place a mic about 2 - 6 feet away from the speakers Depends on the room size ect so a bit of trial and error to get the best sound here). Now play the complete dialogue track and record it using the mic (don't forget, like i did once, to have a timecode tone at the beginning so you can sync it with the main dialogue track at a later stage). Once you have the recording finished sync this new track with the original and play about with the mix levels until you get a natural sounding dialogue track. Maybe a slight reduction in the bass frequencies on the original track may eliminate the "too close to the mic" effect that you mentioned. You get a more natural reverb effect this way which could help bring the new ADR more inline with the original studio track.
Its a bit of trial and error with this method but it can help recreate that "on set" sound.
hope this helps
As a working audio engineer I have to offer my view on the suggestion above: With all due respect, re-running and re-recording the dialogue tracks through a pair of speakers will, unless the whole signal chain (from A/D/A converters to mics to preamps to monitors, to room) is top-of-the line pro level stuff, spell absolute disaster for all of Troopermans hard dialogue work. Not only will that degrade the signal substantially in quality, it will also introduce alot of unnecessary room artifacts that can spell all sorts of frequency and EQ trouble down the line, come mixdown. Not unless the monitor room where TM would be running the playbacks is treated correctly as far as acoustics go, chances are you will merlely introduce major problems in what are *perfectly workable tracks*.
In my opinion Trooperman's recordings are just fine. The proximity effect introduced by his close recordings only works to his advantage in this case, as it really has improved the overall signal clarity and fullnes of his voice, which only enhances the dark and slightly menacing character of TMs Anakin. A much better solution would be to use a slight highpass on Anakin, with a touch of a medium-size room plate. Make sure to roll off some of the lows on the reverb itself. TM's work is fine, and don't forget; the fact that his voice is so different and much deeper that Hayden's is a *good thing*! I hope TM stays true to his concept, which IMO is totally solid.
I'm glad the logo designs inspired you to create a mockup logo as I think your third one is the best possible logo. However, when I tried to recreate it in high-res there's a problem. The stretching/squeezing of "Shroud" becomes painfully obvious and the logo suffers as a result. I tried to:
I guess the question is whether you want a commentary on the single-layer release (which would probably diminish the video quality of the actual film).