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#1424637
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The Phantom Menace - Expanded Edition (In Progress)
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The way you’ve inserted it still works well besides the weird red tint it has (I don’t know why it has that considering the senate is blue and grey lit) and it works quite well considering the general level of CGI in TMP anyway.

TMP has a lot of instances of things that don’t particularly match the following two films (as well as being 10 years earlier) so another Senator from Alderan is no more out of place than the Jedi Council which is only about 50% carried over into AotC. Also, the Representative in the background with the hair buns and white dress is a nice nod to the OT whereas the look of Alderan in the rest of the PT is quite different.

Out of all the changes made to the PT the audio change from ‘Vote Now’ to ‘Incoherent Yells’ is the most bizarre and baffling.

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#1424245
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The Phantom Menace - Expanded Edition (In Progress)
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I’m looking forward to this. As good as fan edits usually are, there’s also something good about just adding all available media back to the films.

Bobson Dugnutt said:

The only thing I don’t think I’d include in a workprint is the Bail Antillies/Organa scene since it confuses things a little with Jimmy Smits.

I don’t know the context of the scene (I’ve only seen screen caps) but is there any actual dialogue that indicates that the fella is supposed to be the same character as Smits’? Or that they represent the same planet or whatever the actual confusion is?

Would it be possible to fit the scene in by just letting viewers assume they’re different people like the Wedge/Fake Wedge in ANH (who I didn’t even know were supposed to be the same person until it was pointed out that Fake Wedge was now a new character).

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#1423727
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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SparkySywer said:

NeverarGreat said:

I can easily see amendments written which would destroy democracy, like making the Chancellors term in office, and his practical power…unlimited.

This comment has made me realize that “Amendment after amendment” might be saying that Palpatine is making amendments, not that George Lucas thinks amendments are like units of Constitution juice or something.

Still… what an incredibly awkward line. Don’t blame me for thinking “Amendment after amendment” meant “Amendment after amendment is in shreds” lol

Artan42 said:

SparkySywer said:

Peter Pan said:

Here’s a different take on the Bail’s apartment scene with dialogue from The Force Unleashed:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sPI80MXqw8pO1wm34C0mLx2jCck-EUk8/view?usp=sharing

It’s far from perfect, but there is potential I think.

“The constitution is in shreds! Amendment after amendment!”

Whoever wrote that line has no idea how government works. It always bothered me, and it’s why I’ve never liked that deleted scene.

A chancellor with unchecked power altering the constitution whenever he wants to stay in power forever? Yeah, no government has ever worked like that.

Can you truly call that a working government?

The Republic isn’t a working government. Corporations have seats as if they were systems.

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#1423642
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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SparkySywer said:

Peter Pan said:

Here’s a different take on the Bail’s apartment scene with dialogue from The Force Unleashed:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sPI80MXqw8pO1wm34C0mLx2jCck-EUk8/view?usp=sharing

It’s far from perfect, but there is potential I think.

“The constitution is in shreds! Amendment after amendment!”

Whoever wrote that line has no idea how government works. It always bothered me, and it’s why I’ve never liked that deleted scene.

A chancellor with unchecked power altering the constitution whenever he wants to stay in power forever? Yeah, no government has ever worked like that.

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#1422602
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit inspired by the Mandalorian [RELEASED: 2/5 seasons + 3 bonus episodes]
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EddieDean said:

That said, my huge volume of posted thoughts don’t generate as much discussion as I’d expected, which I think comes down to one of two things: Either people read it and are like ‘yeap, sound enough, carry on’, which is fine by me as it means I’ve generated good trust, or I’m just overwhelming people by massively overdoing it and they’re sitting there wishing I’d just shut up and output content. Which is also mostly fine, though I’d rather not be putting people off with a too-high volume of unnecessary analysis and losing out on having people chime in on the necessary analysis.

A lot of the time I don’t have much to add as I’ve not watched the series in full since the run up to the final series. Other times you’re in my brain anyway so there’s no need to add anything (as I see it anyway). I do read it all though so I’ve no problem with a full transcript of your brain if it helps put this together.

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#1422445
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit inspired by the Mandalorian [RELEASED: 2/5 seasons + 3 bonus episodes]
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EddieDean said:

I nearly just rendered an episode with incomplete titles by mistake.

It would have read:

"The Clone Wars spread instability and chaos across the galaxy.
Mando Mando Mando.
Mando Mando Mando.

Mando Mando Mando.
Mando Mando Mando.
Mando Mando."

I’ve no doubt that’s exactly what Dave Filoni’s template document for scripts for episodes of the Mandalorian looks like, but it’s not going to suffice for you guys.

Works like Pokemon speech. It’s only a repetition of the name but it makes sense if you speak it.

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#1420886
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit inspired by the Mandalorian [RELEASED: 2/5 seasons + 3 bonus episodes]
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EddieDean said:

Can I get a quick opinion guys? A friend recommended that I change the way I present the four cuts (Mando, Quality, Continuity, Complete) in my tracker spreadsheet. Can I get some feedback on whether the original INFO tab is clear enough, or if it isn’t, that the new ‘Info2’ tab is any clearer? I want to make it obvious to people that people who want the Mando cut just need the red episodes, but people who want the Quality cut need red + green, etc.

It’s fine to me, though I’ve seen it since you first put it up so maybe I’m just familiar and know what I’m looking for.

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#1419574
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit inspired by the Mandalorian [RELEASED: 2/5 seasons + 3 bonus episodes]
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My issue is that I don’t actually remember anything that happened in any episode which makes it difficult to make suggestions on how best to order them. I’m terrible for remembering details.

I will say that after the canon series 3 (and the model change) up until the end of series 6, the characterisations of the mains and recurring supporting characters don’t really change too much. Obviously plots continue that have impacts on later stories so it’s not like they can go in any order, but the characters don’t change all that much. The main trio and Padmé are especially static after that point I feel.

Ahsoka basically starts from her model change as having got over the impulsiveness from before, and basically become a hybrid of Obi (she’s incredibly sarcastic) and Ani (she’s very prone to emotion) and stays that way until series 7 where she becomes more like Obi (calm mentor).

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#1419553
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit inspired by the Mandalorian [RELEASED: 2/5 seasons + 3 bonus episodes]
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EddieDean said:

Both completely correct. I’ve just finished a re-review of a batch of Padmé-centric episodes: Corruption/The Academy, Assassin, Heroes on Both Sides/Pursuit of Peace/Senate Murders. Onwards to analysis!

  • I don’t know how much value I’d get out of this next idea, but since the drinks contain “Tea”, I might use the opening crawl to establish the street name “T” (short for whatever so long as it begins with ‘T’) if I want to use more dialogue that refers to the word ‘Tea’. I might not need to though.

Turmeric… 'cos it’s a… spice… spice runners.

EddieDean said:

*Regarding the Palpatine twist. I know this is just my opinion, but a lot has been said about the right order to watch Star Wars. Original first, Prequel first, Machete, etc. And a lot of edits have been made so that it can be enjoyed in those preferred ‘right’ orders. Ep1 trimmed as the opening of Ep2, trilogy edits, prequels with the OT twists preserved, etc. But here’s the OBJECTIVELY CORRECT, NO ARGUMENT WELCOME, OFFICIAL DEFINITELY RIGHT, IF YOU DISAGREE YOU ARE WRONG ordering:

  1. Original Trilogy
  2. Entire franchise in chronological order (including the OT, in place).

Absolutely perfect except for the minor typo of adding bullet point 1 when only 2 was needed (which is technically two typos as you’ve put 2 rather than 1).

You can’t teach children to count then say ‘well actually sometimes it goes 4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9’, it’ll confuse them.
Besides, back in 2005 I was the archetypal older child, i.e. the one all the others were based on, and the OT was boring, it was plastic, bad effects, and teddy bears, whereas the PT was constant excitement. And if that’s how I saw it then all other children in the world (who are based on me as established) will only enjoy the OT with context that it kinda follows on from the defining event of their lives.

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#1418821
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Zack Snyder's Justice League: Redux Ideas thread
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Taking out all the background fluff on Cyborg, Aquaman, and Flash and making them into some sort of short film would help. You don’t do your big team up film and spend a significant chunk of it on mini-origin films for half your cast.

Correct the aspect ration. The film is essentially part of trilogy within the DCEU of Man of Steel and Batman V Superman and is incredibly jarring to watch after them due to the tacky aspect ratio. It’s like he was making a nod to Whedon’s weird aspect ratio for Avengers: Assemble that doesn’t match Avengers: Age of Ultron.

Fix the terrible colourgrading of all three films in the trilogy.

I’ve not seen the other cut since it released but you could probably take all the scenes that don’t cause continuity errors, add them to this cut (once the terrible colours and framing have been fixed) to replace the endless flashback stuff and split the film in two.

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#1418350
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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sade1212 said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:
http://chng.it/T28FMJj9QV

The problem with this petition is that it’s based on the JJ cut nonsense. We have no evidence that JJ was forced to cut the movie down any more than any other movie has to be cut down for run time. The “Disney Star Wars is Dumb” source the petition links to is a repost of a post originally from /r/saltierthancrait, clearly intended to stir up controversy and almost certainly fabricated.

It’s like the QAnon thing - there’s a whole culture of Star Wars fans, and particularly YouTubers, who buy in to this enormous divide and conflict at Lucasfilm because of their supposed insiders, and are sure that any day now Joe Biden Kathleen Kennedy will be suddenly ousted or arrested or something. With Justice League, the BTS issues were well-known, obvious, and corroborated by the actors. The “JJ cut” idea is just a desperate attempt to apply that same concept to this movie, even though TROS didn’t bring in a second director for reshoots or anything similar.

My point is there’d probably be more of a chance of success with a straight forward petition to release the deleted scenes we know were shot, rather than bringing in unsubstantiated speculation and begging for a cut that doesn’t really exist.

Sorry, this isn’t anything to do with Ascendant.

Abrams is also known for fast paced, rapidly moving films with little in the way of extra scenes released. He’s never going to release an extended cut on his own terms any way because that’s not his style.

From what I recall, it was Paramount that added the deleted scenes to the release of the 2009 Star Trek film, not Abrams.

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#1415832
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit inspired by the Mandalorian [RELEASED: 2/5 seasons + 3 bonus episodes]
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szopman said:

dgraham414 said:

I’ve been going through these episodes and really the only issue I have with them besides technical ones is the opening texts. I feel like they aren’t needed at all… They just take up time that honestly leaves me bored. I feel like taking the first few minutes of an episode and doing a cold open before the title card is better.

+1

-2, just to balance it out.

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#1415540
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit inspired by the Mandalorian [RELEASED: 2/5 seasons + 3 bonus episodes]
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I’ve never been able to get along with the original CW series. I really dislike the voice acting for most of the characters (American accented clones! At least Baker’s Australianish accent is relatively close to a New Zealand one) and the Anakin here is my least favourite in the franchise (even TPM and AotC Anakin is preferable). I know it has its fans but I just don’t get the appeal.

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#1415051
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit inspired by the Mandalorian [RELEASED: 2/5 seasons + 3 bonus episodes]
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EddieDean said:

Nooo, I think I just got lucky. I have been thinking about this stuff for three and a half months straight now. Though it does go to show that you can’t over-plan for this stuff, you should always be ready to flex and change as new ideas come to light!

EDIT: Damn, it works even better in context than I’d thought! She goes and teaches the younglings JUST AFTER SHE’S SAVED A BUNCH OF YOUNGLINGS. She’s literally just had the experience of realising how important the future generations of Jedi are, so she immediately goes about starting to get involved in their training, setting her on the path which continues through Rebels with Ezra all the way through to Mando with Grogu. FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK this was a really lucky get.

Well that fits like it was always meant to. It’ll actually be different to see it another way now.

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#1414441
Topic
The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit inspired by the Mandalorian [RELEASED: 2/5 seasons + 3 bonus episodes]
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‘Seven Warriors’, at 7 mins in has a really weird transition where Ashoka is surprised when Obi-Wan says they can’t help the farmers, followed by a scene cut that directly returns the same conversation. They move outside during it tough so there’s not really much that can be done, except possibly remove Ashoka’s line inside and just join the conversation outside after.
I really hope Hondo turns up in The Mandalorian or one of the new live action spin-offs, he’s just so fun.

Ashoka takes charge in most of the early parts of this episode and is focused on her job when they crash whilst the other two bicker, it shows she’s learning from the events of the Holocron episodes. On that note I wonder if it’d be better after ‘Lightsabre Lost’, show she’s picked up on the patience lesson there because she feels a lot more like later series Ashoka in ‘Seven Warriors’.

I see your link to Hondo and the Underworld in the opening of Lightsabre Lost, but Hondo, and pirates in general, aren’t really connected to the Underworld. I think a better link would be investigating the crew of Bane and set it before ‘Seven Warriors’. There was a Weequee in Bane’s crew after all. Also, it follows Ahsoka’s relationship with Jocasta and essentially looks like she’s been in the Temple continuously since the disaster on Felucia.