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#1441171
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Pokémon: The Last Jedi (pre-production)
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CaptainFaraday said:
Those are both really good suggestions for Rey to have. I personally really like Tyranitar, so it would have my vote. What would Kylo have? Maybe Sneasel, and it evolves to Weaville when he declares himself Supreme Leader?

I’m thinking Cubone for Kylo. It’s got the helmet, it’s constantly moping, it’s holding a lightsabre, there’s the dead parents thing, and the Alolan Marowak looks a bit Sith-y.

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#1441075
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Pokémon: The Last Jedi (pre-production)
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Ray needs to start with an Aron or Larvitar. The former has the metal connection (a scrapper) and the latter is a desert dweller (Jakku). They both have dark connotations, and they’re final stages are awesome dinosaurs who deserve plenty of screen time. They can both even mega evolve suitable for facing off against grandpa who clearly uses a Genesect / Mewtwo / or Deoxys.

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#1437906
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I abhor the "X undoes Y's accomplishments" criticism so much.
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Servii said:

Artan42 said:

Servii said:

TestingOutTheTest said:

You see it be used against the sequel trilogy, especially The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker. Even Palpatine’s return is criticized for “undoing the Chosen One accomplishment”… especially when these people are well-aware that Anakin only killed Palps specifically to save Luke.

What people don’t understand is that everything is temporary. What people think is that the victory of the OT only matters if it lasts forever.

The victory of the OT allowed for galactic peace for three decades. People were born and lived in peace because of the achievements of the OT. You need to come to terms with the temporarily of reality. Nothing ever lasts forever and thinking anything will… sets you up for sadness and anger.

Thoughts?

That may be how real life works, but Star Wars isn’t real life. It’s a fantasy setting. And Anakin killing the Emperor was meant by Lucas (at least retroactively) to be an act of cosmic significance. It was the destruction of the Sith and the restoration of balance to the Force.

Also, it wasn’t exactly 30 years of peace when the New Republic was embarrassingly corrupt and incompetent, and the new Jedi Order failed to get off the ground, and the main heroes of the OT all ended up failing at life and becoming estranged from on another.

That real-world cynicism has no place in Star Wars.

True, which is why the PT is an example of a perfect democracy where a suitable leader was elected and didn’t plunge the galaxy into a decades long civil war where every system was under the direct control of the leaders personal army and the main bad guy was a failed main character who killed both of the other two main characters.

Thank the maker that SW has never used real life cynicism prior to TFA.

The Old Republic only became corrupt and fell due to decades of Sith subversion. It didn’t fall apart for just mundane reasons like real-world governments often do. And the fall of Anakin is a melodramatic tragedy that, like Luke’s story in the OT, is based in mythical archetypes. That’s not George Lucas just going “Well, real life sucks, so I’ll make my world suck too, lol.” It’s meant to be loftier than that. The Prequels tell a tragic story, but that tragedy is deliberately softened because we know the OT exists and that the good guys will win in the end. You can have low points in a story, but that doesn’t equate to cynicism.

At no point in the PT or TCW is any indication given that Palps alone is responsible for the fall of the Republic. The Republic falls due to it being crippled by corruption and decay, exactly the reason real life governments fall, this has been well explained by Lucas along with all the other tropes based on real life in the OT and PT.

There is no difference whatsoever between Anakin’s fall and Luke’s withdrawal in the ST so if you are trying to claim there’s some magical difference between mythical cynicism and realistic cynicism then all your points against the ST are also invalidated as they’re identically mythical.

The PT is no more or less made less cynical by the existence of the death of Palps in the OT than the cynicism of the ST is made less or more cynical by the death of Palps in TRoS.

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#1437664
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I abhor the "X undoes Y's accomplishments" criticism so much.
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Servii said:

TestingOutTheTest said:

You see it be used against the sequel trilogy, especially The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker. Even Palpatine’s return is criticized for “undoing the Chosen One accomplishment”… especially when these people are well-aware that Anakin only killed Palps specifically to save Luke.

What people don’t understand is that everything is temporary. What people think is that the victory of the OT only matters if it lasts forever.

The victory of the OT allowed for galactic peace for three decades. People were born and lived in peace because of the achievements of the OT. You need to come to terms with the temporarily of reality. Nothing ever lasts forever and thinking anything will… sets you up for sadness and anger.

Thoughts?

That may be how real life works, but Star Wars isn’t real life. It’s a fantasy setting. And Anakin killing the Emperor was meant by Lucas (at least retroactively) to be an act of cosmic significance. It was the destruction of the Sith and the restoration of balance to the Force.

Also, it wasn’t exactly 30 years of peace when the New Republic was embarrassingly corrupt and incompetent, and the new Jedi Order failed to get off the ground, and the main heroes of the OT all ended up failing at life and becoming estranged from on another.

That real-world cynicism has no place in Star Wars.

True, which is why the PT is an example of a perfect democracy where a suitable leader was elected and didn’t plunge the galaxy into a decades long civil war where every system was under the direct control of the leaders personal army and the main bad guy was a failed main character who killed both of the other two main characters.

Thank the maker that SW has never used real life cynicism prior to TFA.

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#1435758
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Star Wars: The Last Skywalker Awakens - THE sequel trilogy 3-in-1 edit (RELEASED)
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BrotherOfSasquatch said:

bbghost said:

I really never had a problem with Hux being made a farce of, or “they fly now” (yes it’s corny, but that’s Star Wars, right?)

It wasn’t until I found this forum that I realized so many people HATE that “They fly now” joke. I will never understand it. lol.

Because the Empire, Republic, and CIS have all had jettroopers and it would be weird if the FO didn’t.

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#1434928
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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I’ve just started watching the anthology thing. I’ve never seen FoD before so it’s new.

Anakin’s animation doesn’t look that far off his 2003 CW look.
Ahsoka has eyebrows? Why?
Her shorto is green instead of yellow. Why?
I find it highly amusing that the same move she uses to block Yoda (the crossed sabres behind her back) is the same move she uses to block against Vader in Rebels.
Anakin is drawn as the same height as Ashoka. I know she’s quite tall in Rebels but she’s nowhere near as tall as Anakin in TCW.
Kit Fisto has some weird hairs growing out of his shoulders.
Padmé apparently has a chrome N1 to match her other chrome starships.
I think it’s obvious Obi-Wan sent Ahsoka along on purpose. I’m sure he knew about the two of them since the end of AotC.
In 15 odd mins Ashoka manages to have more chemistry with Padmé than Anakin did for the whole PT.
Luminara has a different voice, Bariss’ is close enough. Typho also sounds wrong.
I can’t remember if 3P0 or R2 ever go back to Illum after it becomes Starkiller Base.

Enough on my rambling observations. The cut itself worked well, the animation styles are surprisingly similar, as is the tone and it actually manages to feel like the FoD stuff was original to it. The choices of segments helps set up a bunch of things from the main series (including Illum and Mon Cala, Ahsoka confronting a binary load lifter). The transitions can sometimes be a bit abrupt on the audio but unless you have the soundtrack there’s little that can be done there. The titles work nicely for both shows. I like the amount of Padmé in the episode as well.

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#1434607
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a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
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The ending is a bit off where Vader goes directly from a corridor to a junction and is suddenly holding the captain.
Overall I’m not sure it works. The concept is good, the matched colours and resolution between the films works well but there’s just two different styles with the dynamic camera vs the static camera. ANH is a really static film.
RO fits better as a prologue where the static feel comes across as more of a breather from the intense chase leading up to it I think.

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#1434533
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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EddieDean said:

Artan42 said:

The cut itself only went a bit sticky after the sudden zoom into Dooku’s hidden base and the sudden introduction of the rest of the crew and Bane’s takeover of the mission with Eval not sulking about it despite his massive ego (still present in the cut).

Thanks Artan. Can you expand on this a little please? When you say ‘a bit sticky’, do you mean that those establishing shots don’t quite work? Or something graphical? Or are you referring to the story regarding the introduction of the full crew?

Do you think that excluding the introduction of the additional group members constituted a narrative hole, or do you think it was forgivable? If a hole, do you think it would be patched by mentioning Bane’s established ability to quickly pull together a crew in the opening text, or does it feel like more is needed?

The establishing shots work and it’s clear what’s going on any why. It’s the story that just feels a bit patchy. I think ‘The Box’ covers a lot of exposition as well as the team selection that’s just missing if you remove the whole thing.

Eval is set up as the valuable mastermind with Bane as a useful minion in the first part before ‘The Box’ shows that Dooku wanted Bane all along. There’s also no mention of needing to find help in the first part as all their focus is on running, that’s because ‘The Box’ has the switch form Eval to Bane and the focus on the team whereas the cut has the team appearing out of nowhere with no indication why Bane didn’t ask them for help in part 1.

I think if anything is added to the crawl it might have to be that there’s a crew waiting in secret on Naboo ready for the prison break but that might disrupt the flow and add unnecessary exposition.
ordinarily I might suggest adding some scenes from ‘The Box’ as a quick montage with dialogue playing over them but the problem is that the pacing of your cut is really good and would potentially slow down if any more was added.

I think it’s something I wouldn’t have noticed if this had been the original episode as things like this happen (like the Obi-Wan and Anakin are captured by Hondo episodes) but having seen the full arc it stood out to me. It might be worth seeing if anybody else notices it before considering changing anything as it may just be me that noticed it.

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#1434353
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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I’ve just watched the Death of Obi-Wan cut. I’m impressed, the pacing feels like it should and it keeps all the important beats, Dooku and Bane’s relationship, Mace being a dick and even Yoda showing why the PT Jedi have issues, Palps clearly knowing what’s going on and using it as a huge attempt to manipulate Anakin.

I actually wish TCW had much more of the latter, it’s really only this arc and the Ahsoka’s Trial arc that show Anakin on his descent.

The cut itself only went a bit sticky after the sudden zoom into Dooku’s hidden base and the sudden introduction of the rest of the crew and Bane’s takeover of the mission with Eval not sulking about it despite his massive ego (still present in the cut).

I’d also noticed that one of the fireworks looks like an opening text crawl which is cool. I really hate the holo-disguises though.

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#1433445
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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Imhotep said:

  • The scene at 25:00 reads to me as the first time Padme has asked these kind of questions to a common citizen of the Republic, implying that she doesn’t usually talk to the people, though Tekla says she does, and that this is the sole conversation Padme bases her following speech on. I wonder if some dialogue trims here would help to make this seem a more usual conversation for Padme?

I forgot to mention this when I watched it. I wonder if it’d be possible to reverse the two parts of the conversation so Padmé asks first then Tekla says how nice she is to ask rather than the original way which makes it look almost like she guilts Padmé into asking her.

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#1432689
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<strong>Rangers Of The New Republic</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread
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Anakin Starkiller said:

SparkySywer said:

Please the people who want Gina Carano rehired by rehiring her for the one pre-Wampa scene

If Colin Baker’s anything to go by, that’ll be a no from her, but I know you’re just joking.

So you’re saying that Cara should be recast as Sylvester McCoy in a wig?

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#1429968
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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EddieDean said:

You’re another voice in favour of keeping Ahsoka’s “I’m not so bad” line - perhaps there’s a middle ground where I keep the line and him checking her out but I still cut out the camera ogling and perhaps her tutting about boys, making it ultimately a bit more sincere.

Maybe try zoom the image into just her head rather than a full body thing or play the line when the camera is on Lux then cut to an other clip of her just standing or something?

You can keep the ‘boys’ bit cut. That sort of joke wasn’t even funny in the '90s never mind the '10s.

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#1429543
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Worst Edit Ideas
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Anakin Starkiller said:

CaptainFaraday said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Replace every scene available with Galaxy of Adventures. Those that haven’t been animated remain live-action.

A friend of mine made a ROTS edit that added in all available content that takes place around and during it, including the seige of Coruscant from the Tartakovsky Clone Wars. After a few minutes I didn’t even think about the footage and animation mismatch; it was weird in how not weird it was.

I could see Doctor Who reconstructions using such an approach at some point.

SparkySywer said:

sade1212 said:

The link SandMTV posted links to a video with a 15 character ID (f2ynu4megZFmo8U), but every YouTube video has an 11 character ID. Conclusion: Sand is from a distant future where they ran out of YouTube IDs and had to add four more digits.

I’m sensing a pattern here

His wall of text last month on this thread isn’t helping his case.

Doctor Who has had the opportunity to blend animation and live action for the First and Second Doctor stuff. They did so for the early ones but now are just fully animating the full stories even if live action episodes exist.

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#1429230
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Worst Edit Ideas
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sade1212 said:

The link SandMTV posted links to a video with a 15 character ID (f2ynu4megZFmo8U), but every YouTube video has an 11 character ID. Conclusion: Sand is from a distant future where they ran out of YouTube IDs and had to add four more digits.

Well that’s disappointing considering the post about a lot of RotS deleted scenes. That means that, even in the future, those scenes aren’t in release.

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#1429157
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The Clone Wars: Refocused - A complete series edit. [Polishing Seasons 1-3]
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EddieDean said:

That’s a HUGE relief that you thought this all flowed! That second half took a lot of work from a lot of options and this was my preferred (and shortest) version so if you think this worked as a whole I’m very happy.

At no point did this feel like anything was joined together.

EddieDean said:

I did trim Ahsoka’s “check me out”, mainly because there’s the full-body scan shot and I don’t like the camera gawking at a teenager and the whole “boys will be boys” thing (probably for the same reason that we both have an issue with Ahsoka assuming that the senator friend was male). But the hint at flirting isn’t vital here, so I think it’s an OK trim. Did the actual cutting feel natural there?

That’s a fair point. It’s only because I found it funny that I noticed it wasn’t there. It was funny to me because she behaves so much like Anakin in non-Jedi situations as well as in fighting, but it’s not the end of the world to remove it, she still gets similar fails in the Ondaron arc. Otherwise there’s no indication there’s anything cut.

EddieDean said:

You mention liking the episode but forgetting that it spelt out that the corporate seats were corruption, but I’d like to correct you here and let you know that that wasn’t something from the original episode 😉 That’s a scene from the far less enjoyable Senate Murders episode rather than the greater Heroes on Both Sides/Pursuit of Peace duology. That said, while you’re quite right about corporate seats being bought, I do like that they have a senate which includes more than just member nation states. It’s cool that there are some powerful corporate elements, as well as that neutral systems collectively have a seat even though they’re external. It’s a little distopian and a little utopian too.

I’ve not seen Senate Murders for years so I didn’t spot any inserted scenes here. I’m impressed though considering the lower quality of the early episodes.

EddieDean said:

And yeah, American “Table a motion” versus UK “Table a motion” is an unfortunate complete opposite of meaning. I also thought about removing ‘Caucus’ because it’s very specific to US politics but I didn’t want to break the flow of that scene to achieve that trim.

They even use the correct meaning of the phrase later on (I think it was Mothma) when the put the peace talks on the table or something like that.

EddieDean said:

My largest recontextualising was when Padmé’s walking alone before she gets jumped. Having watched my episode, why do you think Padmé was walking alone there in that scene? I’d like to see if my intentions carried across! Do you think that scene worked?

I thought it was strange at first but Padmé is always doing reckless things like that so I thought she was doing it to try draw out the people who were attacking her allies.

EddieDean said:

And of course the ever-important question: Would you prefer to watch this over the original three episodes?

I think I would yes. I don’t think I’ve seen any of your edits that aren’t as good as, or preferable to, the originals yet, though I’ve not watched them all.