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#357649
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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RoccondilRinon said:

Couple of points Arkanian.

First, welcome to the boards.

Second, I can understand you didn't like some of the things Ady did, but saying he's acting like Lucas is a little uncalled-for. I don't think there are many here besides the man himself who agree with every single change he made, but we don't have to; while he posts here for feedback and incorporates some of our suggestions, it's his personal project. Furthermore, this is a fan-edit, and one of the things fan-edits often do is change the story. If in the story he doesn't get a medal, but Adywan thinks the story/film would be better if he did, then he gets a medal. Ady will be making considerable story changes when he gets around to Return of the Jedi and especially the prequels. I don't think Ady's versions will replace the originals for any of us; they might replace the SE as alternative versions.

As for asking that these things be addressed, I'm afraid Adywan does not intend to make another release of ANH:R, and no release could ever satisfy everyone. What you can do, however, is take his edit and make your own little changes (just be sure to give him the credit if you release it). The two examples you mentioned should be relatively trivial to change back.

 

Apologies if I came off as a bit negatively, I have great admiration for what Adywan accomplished here. I don't think it was his aim to change story elements, because nowhere else is this done, rather I think he wanted to improve the things that assist the existing story elements, which hes done more or less quite well. The things I pointed out lastly were likely unintentional on his part in what effects they make in terms of the plot elements, however small. Therefore the change can be compared to what Lucas did with the Greedo and Han scene, but I'm sure Lucas did it with a more sinister intention.

Yes, I was expecting to be told to go away and do my own edit using Adawan's :b, but unfortunatly I do not know how :(, it would help if I could get some pointers on how it's done or influence someone knows how to do it. Nevertheless, I would like to mention I am an avid and quite conservative SW fan, and now I am a fan of Adywan :D, and would be very greatful if I would be one of those with the suggestians he would consider for his future projects namely ROTJ for which I have very much to delve into eagerly. So far ESB looks like its being handled quite nicely, all fixes listed are those I happily can agree with, it looks nice and clean and its looking like it could be his best edit so far :).

 

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#357640
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Hello.

Heres my two cents on the project.

Overall it is a remarkable improvement upon any official releases out there, and essentially a saving grace for all those true fans who remained feeling neglected after Lucas' tampering.

Great array of technical fixes and wonderful visual improvements (To me its the little things that make the movie so much better and elevate the film quality, eg. the new death star hologram additions, improved and added ships, etc.), the restored Greedo scene, and wise removal of the extended Mos Eisley scenes, these I think remain the most important and valued changes.

Yet there are things that either bothered me or felt unnecessary, for example the changing the type of hand of Ponda Baba, (I do believe that officially there was another varient of the species had that padlike hand) was kind off unnecessary. The extended reveals also in a way, although a nice effort, do not fit in well neither does the music, and feels cringy in terms of plain old film making. Neither does the Ben's home rearrangment scene fit well for me. For this I am thankful of the purist release.

Nevertheless the above assessments are either indifferent or have been attended by Adywan himself.

Now I come to what I really wanted to address and not sound like a review rather a request. A few things that should not have been changed and were you kind off became your own "George Lucas" is Chewbacca getting the medal and Lukes reaction to Biggs' death.

Essentially these are plot elements and should not have been changed not for the sake of my opinion or what I would like but for the sake of the film. If in the story he does not get a medal, then he doesn't get a medal. Maybe its a customary thing that a slave does not get the medal or that it was reserved for the captain of the ship in getting the medal as representing the whole crew ie. Han. I don't know the reason. But thats how scene was since the original release. Same thing with Lukes reaction to Biggs death if thats how he originally reacted, then thats how he reacted, why? that can be discussed, maybe it reveals a more reserved nature in Luke tied with the moment and his relationship with Biggs. These changes, however minute, change the plot element. Just like the change in the Greedo scene changed the character of Han.

Is there anyway that these issues could possibly be addressed in a future in the Purist edition or a possible future "revisit of the revisited" :b All this might sound a bit nitpicky of a fantastic job, but it would make all the other valuable improvements made by Adywan to the movie all the more special if some things just remain untouched. :)