leftshoe18 said:

everbake said:
And when during the last fight scene when Vader puts Obi-Wan into the hole, have him say “Now I have the high ground”

That would be WAY too on the nose. I know Star Wars isn’t exactly known for its subtlety but that would be a little much IMO.

Yeah, nothing like that.

The ending is done and concluded for release. I think WE have a satisfactory solution (that keeps with canon).

Of course. Just send me a PM.

danieldubb said:

Anjohan said:

Also, I might release the edit before the 4th. I got some more time on my hands than previously thought.

Jedit:

I’ll release the Stereo 10 GB mp4 first, followed by the 5.1 two or three days later. It’s some extra work to create the 5.1 due to the new audio alterations, and I will have to preview it on my home cinema system.

hey anjohan, let me know if u have any audio issues you cant solve, i’d be happy to help u tweak anything audio related and have done some stuff for other people in our community cheers

Thank you for that, Daniel. As of right now I have yet to encounter a problem I can’t solve, but if I do now (or in the future) I’ll be sure to send you a PM.

MandThUlti said:

Anjohan said:

Also, I might release the edit before the 4th. I got some more time on my hands than previously thought.

Jedit:

I’ll release the Stereo 10 GB mp4 first, followed by the 5.1 two or three days later. It’s some extra work to create the 5.1 due to the new audio alterations, and I will have to preview it on my home cinema system.

This is awesome, thanks for all the hard work!

Cheers, it’s been a pleasure! Thank you for participating!

Sirius said:

Hi Anjohan. I have a small suggestion to make, if possible. I don’t know if you already completed the score of your edit, but I found a cool re-score of the scene where Obi-Wan see a mirage of Anakin in the field, and I think it could be cool to add something like this in it:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mA6gZq5u75A

Although, I think that the beginning of “Padmé’s Ruminations” theme would be even better in this scene. But in my opinion, both are good and could enhance the moment even more than what it is in the show.

I actually have a score for that scene that I think fits the exact tone - and it is not from the Prequels (which I like, as I use four soundtracks from them already - which I think is enough). But thanks for the suggestion, brother!

Also, I might release the edit before the 4th. I got some more time on my hands than previously thought.

Jedit:

I’ll release the Stereo 10 GB mp4 first, followed by the 5.1 two or three days later. It’s some extra work to create the 5.1 due to the new audio alterations, and I will have to preview it on my home cinema system.

Commander_Vimes said:

Anjohan said:

There have been some excellent posts around here adressing certain character flaws if you will, and although I am very close to a release now (praise the maker!), there is still a lot of adjusting to do (I won’t bother to release a product I’m only 99% satisfied with).

So, I expect release date to be between 4th-10th of July.

Things left to do:

• A few tweaks to the opening (mainly audio smoothening) -> Already done some changes to the overall pacing
• Smooth Haja’s abrupt and sudden switch to “i’m gonna help you” (we talked about it above/previous page)
• Remove some inconsistencies with the characters (mostly Obi-Wan &Leia - recent discussion up above made me realize three things I wanted to change - mainly scenes where Obi-Wan either look rather clueless or helpless - simply remove reaction shots or unwarranted questions)

Also, Ive replaced the elevator with something less “sci-fi” (as someone thought it to be) and I think it looks splendid.

There’s probably a lot more to mention, but we’re getting close!

And thank you all for your brilliant ideas, suggestions and feedback!

Just chiming in for the first time and created an account to throw my 2 cents. Hello There!

Everything you’ve been doing has been excellent so far and I can’t wait to see the finished product. I’m not sure if it’s been discussed here yet but has any thought been given to altering Vader taking down the decoy ship in Ep. 5?

I love that he took it down and everything but thought that the real ship being right behind it made the awesome moment fall a bit flat.

How I would go about it is if he takes down the first ship like normal, and then when the other ship takes off he begins to pull it down but cut to fancy blinking lights in the shaking cockpit (using other footage I and others can look for) and it just manages to pull away but with damage to the ship. This would be another way to explain why the ship’s hyperdrive is damaged apart from evil Lola.

Thank you for that, man. And it’s a great compliment that you made a user account just to come with ideas and give praise. Thank you.

I do see where you’re coming from and I do agree that that would be an improvement. I do not know if it’s feasible due to the lack of footage to work with (mainly the fact that when the second ship takes off it’s simply ONE, long shot) and this would probably require extensive VFX and audio work (which God, I’m kind of exhausted from now doing the new Rescue). But! Let me look into it. It’s definitely a neat idea.

DZ-330 said:

You could cut the whole swimming scene and go directly to the stormtrooper opening the door and Obi-Wan choking him out. You can assume he’s wet from being in the “sewers”.

Order the scenes as:

• Obi confronts Haja
• Obi in the streets
• Random creatures
• Elevator
• Imperials monitoring the computers
• Stormtrooper opening door and Obi’s: "I’m in’

This will also help to explain why he didn’t have to swim back with Leia.

Shorten Haja’s dialogue to Obi in the streets:
“Alright if it’s the sewers you want there’s only one place to go. I’ll buy you as much time as I can.”

Let’s not have Haja spell out his “making amends” intentions to the audience like we’re too dumb to understand.

Edit: Haja is a Jedi fanboy. Of course he wants to help a real one.

I like the underwater sequence, so it’ll stay. It’s a great new scenery to the Star Wars universe, and it has great atmospheric value. Also a kick-ass score. And the reference to the “Sewers” could be more the fact that he has to go down there to gain access to the Imperial Base without being detected (at least that’s my interpretation).

I agree with the “making amends”. It’s going. No need to spoon feed.

There have been some excellent posts around here adressing certain character flaws if you will, and although I am very close to a release now (praise the maker!), there is still a lot of adjusting to do (I won’t bother to release a product I’m only 99% satisfied with).

So, I expect release date to be between 4th-10th of July.

Things left to do:

• A few tweaks to the opening (mainly audio smoothening) -> Already done some changes to the overall pacing
• Smooth Haja’s abrupt and sudden switch to “i’m gonna help you” (we talked about it above/previous page)
• Remove some inconsistencies with the characters (mostly Obi-Wan &Leia - recent discussion up above made me realize three things I wanted to change - mainly scenes where Obi-Wan either look rather clueless or helpless - simply remove reaction shots or unwarranted questions)

Also, Ive replaced the elevator with something less “sci-fi” (as someone thought it to be) and I think it looks splendid.

There’s probably a lot more to mention, but we’re getting close!

And thank you all for your brilliant ideas, suggestions and feedback!

GLogus said:

revel911 said:

DZ-330 said:

Just a shower thought…

Can Obi’s:
“Then my friend is truly dead. Goodbye, Darth.”

Be edited to:
“My friend is not dead. Goodbye, Darth”

This can help to explain why Obi leaves and does not kill him. It will also explain Vader’s line of “Obi-Wan once thought as you do” in ROTJ.

There is no perfect answer. He tells Luke that Anakin is dead so the dialogue works there. Dialogue doesn’t need to explain Obi leaving, he does not because that’s who he is.

Yeah, I feel like this is trying to fix something that isn’t actually broken. I think any further effort to fix canon here is just going to draw away from the emotional impact of the scene.

Agreed.

stretch009 said:

Sorry if this has been mentioned before. I hope there will be color correction. I had a terrible time seeing what was going on much of the show because of how dark things were. It was possibly the worst I’d ever ‘seen’. Even worse than the Mandalorian.

I can increase brightness a tad in the two duels, yes. It’s a valid point.

PodracingThisIs91 said:

Anjohan said:

https://streamable.com/l5beka

Exposition redesign as suggested by Vranir, and alterations to the overall soundmix.

I think it’s a bit of a stretch to call that huge water area “the sewers”. But maybe it’s because I know it isn’t and the hypothetical new spectator won’t notice. Anyhow if that means that we get a bit of Chapter 4 character development and we get our only one rescue (the good one) I’m up for it. I mean I like the idea behind it.

On a side note, I think Haja agrees to help Kenobi way to fast, I don’t know if there’s a way to make the cut less obvious or fast.

Also loving what this post is achieving and the amount of ideas and participants in it!

Cheers.

Yeah, the plot kinda jumps a little quick on Haja helping Obi-Wan both in the original and here. Although I think it works better now, considering he’s telling us his motivations for doing so (which he does not do in EP2 - at least not until way after the rescue of Leia). And then it feels… odd.

The only way I could see the smoothening of that is to remove Haja going “You can trust me” and “Definitely”, and instead try to restructure it after Obi-Wan’s “Can I trust you?” to Haja looking at him, either concerned or thoughtful.

I was wondering if perhaps the emotional climax of Obi-Wan and Leia’s reunion at Alderaan would have an even bigger impact if Obi-Wan leaves her on the ship when she’s upset that he is to leave and runs off?

And then I also think that Leia sneaking Lola into his pocket would be even more emotional based on that change as well, as it tells us as the audience that even if she’s upset with Obi-Wan abandoning her on the ship, she still understands and wants him to remember her and feel safe.

It shows great character imo, and it leaves us as the audience feeling unresolved up until they reunite on Alderaan.

JEDIT:

Only issue is that she holds Lola in her hand as she’s upset and runs off. I could crop the footage to keep her out tho’. Can’t rotoscope it without wasting one year of my life.

Sirius said:

Well, it’s stylistically designed to be that way and you can’t undo that. But we can diminish the effects of it.

Personally, for me, the show just gone too far in a few places.

Reeva is the key to all this.

vranir said:

I like it. Why do we have a second shot of the rat back out in the street after ObiWan goes through the door?

I just added it for some more atmosphere and buildup since i didnt use the initial closeup. You dont like it?

https://streamable.com/l5beka

Exposition redesign as suggested by Vranir, and alterations to the overall soundmix.

revel911 said:

Anjohan said:

NellsRelo said:

Anjohan said:

So, I read all your brilliant feedback and decided to do another crack at the rescue entry:

https://streamable.com/psv9u3

(I’ll do some more recomposing on Leia now - glad to hear it’s very close to fully working for most)

This is fantastic, it feels much less jarring, and the sense of movement imo helps sell Haja a bit better, since we don’t get the resolution to him considering betraying Obi-Wan with this cut. Spacing out the dialogue slightly through the establishing shots, like you’ve done here, mitigates the untrustworthiness in his delivery when Obi-Wan has him at blaster-point

Cheers, brother. This is how I feel as well. I’ll make the voiceover start a tad quicker tho as suggested above.

vranir said:

Maybe make the voiceover start earlier during the new shots. That will reduce the weirdness of the headset being used underwater.

Also consider cutting the line right afterwards about taking a short break. What kind of support takes a break during the middle of the dangerous operation?

Haja.

Hehe. Good suggestion.

revel911 said:

Anjohan said:

So, I read all your brilliant feedback and decided to do another crack at the rescue entry:

https://streamable.com/psv9u3

(I’ll do some more recomposing on Leia now - glad to hear it’s very close to fully working for most)

Sorry we keep sticking on this one scene. 1. Love the elevator up front and the inclusion of command center screen. 2. I think I like the other elevator better, feels less “sci-if”. Did you try it recolored and in reverse? (It’s not bad, just missing that Star Wars “grit”)

I did try it, but 1: the shot is way too low res - and 2: it looks too fake imo.

If I could get a better quality version to work with, then perhaps!

Can you send me the link? I will throw through an upscaler to see what happens.

PM sent.

NellsRelo said:

Anjohan said:

So, I read all your brilliant feedback and decided to do another crack at the rescue entry:

https://streamable.com/psv9u3

(I’ll do some more recomposing on Leia now - glad to hear it’s very close to fully working for most)

This is fantastic, it feels much less jarring, and the sense of movement imo helps sell Haja a bit better, since we don’t get the resolution to him considering betraying Obi-Wan with this cut. Spacing out the dialogue slightly through the establishing shots, like you’ve done here, mitigates the untrustworthiness in his delivery when Obi-Wan has him at blaster-point

Cheers, brother. This is how I feel as well. I’ll make the voiceover start a tad quicker tho as suggested above.

vranir said:

Maybe make the voiceover start earlier during the new shots. That will reduce the weirdness of the headset being used underwater.

Also consider cutting the line right afterwards about taking a short break. What kind of support takes a break during the middle of the dangerous operation?

Haja.

Hehe. Good suggestion.

revel911 said:

Anjohan said:

So, I read all your brilliant feedback and decided to do another crack at the rescue entry:

https://streamable.com/psv9u3

(I’ll do some more recomposing on Leia now - glad to hear it’s very close to fully working for most)

Sorry we keep sticking on this one scene. 1. Love the elevator up front and the inclusion of command center screen. 2. I think I like the other elevator better, feels less “sci-if”. Did you try it recolored and in reverse? (It’s not bad, just missing that Star Wars “grit”)

I did try it, but 1: the shot is way too low res - and 2: it looks too fake imo.

If I could get a better quality version to work with, then perhaps!

MandThUlti said:

I feel like the new scaling of leia in that escape looks much better and more believable. Great work! Can’t wait to check out a full cut of this! Also, glad you made a recovery from cancer. My mom is also a cancer survivor so I know how emotional things can get. God bless!

Thank you for that, my friend. I am happy for you, your family and your mother. ❤️ God bless.

So, I read all your brilliant feedback and decided to do another crack at the rescue entry:

https://streamable.com/psv9u3

(I’ll do some more recomposing on Leia now - glad to hear it’s very close to fully working for most)

Escape - Leia - New Test

https://streamable.com/hbebaz

Kaweebo said:

Anjohan said:

Thank you so much for that. No one should have to fight such a disease.

It was in 2010, treatment ended in 2012. So it’s some time ago now (and thank god - which I do - for that).

I wish your father good health and a speedy recovery. Don’t ever for one second think that cancer = death. That’s not the case at all - no matter the odds, and I bet your father is gonna beat the shit out of that fucker one way or the other. Stay in there, Omni, and don’t let a day pass without love and possibly even a few laughs if possible. And don’t ever forget to talk about the tough feelings.

Life is about family, love and good health - without those we fight an uphill battle for the rest of our life’s.

Stay strong! Lots of love and positive vibes to you and your father!

Pretty sure I read somewhere that if it’s been over ten years since last relapse, the chances of cancer returning drop to like nothing.

That’s correct. And certain types it’s even less.

BrotherOfSasquatch said:

Anjohan said:

BrotherOfSasquatch, that’s totally okay. I see where you’re coming from, and I hope you will enjoy it (or learn to like it) in the spirit of what the edit aims to do and how the film will leave you feeling after the full experience.

Oh, yeah. Don’t get me wrong, I’m still very much excited for this edit! Also, I never took into affect the real life implications of how PTSD is when it comes to this opening. I’ll have to keep that in mind when I watch the final cut.

Happy to hear that! I’m glad for your honesty either way. You have contributed a great deal by always challenging me. 😃

Hadrian sunrider said:

I have two questions

1. I really hope you keep the part where Kenobi tells Leia about her parents

2. And will you be killing reva on jabiim? The best editing choice I have heard is having Vader kill her in jabiim

1. I do.
2. Yes, more of less. I leave it vague if she survives or not, but we leave her stabbed and assumed dead on Jabiim.

Thank you.

Phase3 said:

Anjohan said:

Video Update - The Full Escape [Beta ? ]

https://streamable.com/afhtpd

-> (Re-)Added Intercom Dialogue with Haja, and some new dialogue to create some character growth and motivation.
-> Added shadows and enviorement interaction to and from door, in the escape part (at the end).
-> a lot more.

This is great! It sells the idea that the rescue takes place all on the one planet.

Thank you, brother. Happy to hear that! Mission accomplished. Last piece of the puzzle is having Leia walk with Obi-Wan completed. Posted a new test up above.

Phase3 said:

Anjohan:
I’m not sure if this has been talked about before - I’ve not seen it mentioned yet (not that I remember!): the Disney Lightsabers make a few sparks when they hit each other, as opposed to the brief white flashes seen in the original Star Wars movies.
Is this something that can be corrected, so that the Lightsabers match what is seen throughout Episodes I-VI?

It can probably be fixed in certain areas, although not all. If to remove all, I’d literally have to start remaking sabers and backgrounds every time they bleed into something complicated. Not worth the effort imo.

However, you raise a good point. I could remove some perhaps, to “even it out”. They look realistic and cool tho, unlike the new sabers from Toys’R us.

Thank you so much for that. No one should have to fight such a disease.

It was in 2010, treatment ended in 2012. So it’s some time ago now (and thank god - which I do - for that).

I wish your father good health and a speedy recovery. Don’t ever for one second think that cancer = death. That’s not the case at all - no matter the odds, and I bet your father is gonna beat the shit out of that fucker one way or the other. Stay in there, Omni, and don’t let a day pass without love and possibly even a few laughs if possible. And don’t ever forget to talk about the tough feelings.

Life is about family, love and good health - without those we fight an uphill battle for the rest of our life’s.

Stay strong! Lots of love and positive vibes to you and your father!

That’s fine. It’s a beautiful opening, but it does break a certain amount of tonal and audio centric continuity and a promise when compared to the remaining film (even tho the tone and pace of the film itself is something darker).

I feel like the low, somber musical tones and a tad slower pace help build that continuity and promise.

The opening of a film should always be a taste and a promise of what’s to come imo, and with the “original” opening I promise a very different, dark film. That’s why I had to do my own version. The film is dark, but it’s not a solo character drama in a universe that’s more like a Dark Drama than the adventurous Star Wars.

But hey! He’s making his own edit, so there will be a beautiful dark, character drama down the line. And perhaps it’s a good thing our edits starts different, although similar. 😃

BrotherOfSasquatch, that’s totally okay. I see where you’re coming from, and I hope you will enjoy it (or learn to like it) in the spirit of what the edit aims to do and how the film will leave you feeling after the full experience.

As a former cancer patient and now a survivor, PTSD often feels liked a rushed, chaotic experience with a sense of dread and sorrow, and sometimes even a dark comedy you just have to chuckle at, so I feel the opening sets that tone very well. At least I hope it comes across that way to others.

Thank you for your honest opinion.

Thanks, lads and gals. Greatly appreciated. Thank you for your continuing support and love.

I’ve read all your posts. I’ll edit more tomorrow when my tinnitus (just been at a concert) calms down. I can hardly hear the sound of my own footsteps. lol.

And suggested alterations will be looked into and altered. Cheers.

As a fellow BB/BCS fan and a fan OF their visual storytelling, I’m looking forward to Watch you craft dark, character drama.

It will be a very different and beautiful version of the show no doubt, and I’m looking forward to one day watching it.

Best of luck, brother.

You’re right. It’s not done. The logo was scrambled together so you could see the opening in its entirety. It’ll look good upon release.

arosa1091 said:

Anjohan said:

Opening

So, NFBisms made one hell of a opening in the spirit of what I think most of us expected the tone of Kenobi to be, and people really wanted to see it in this edit when it dropped. Me and NFBisms talked about it (page 16 or something) and I really wanted to use it, but parts of it broke with the promised tone of the rest of my edit (mostly the complete lack of music and too rapid of a pace).

So, what I did was that I re-made the opening in the spirit of NFBisms’s opening, and completely stole his first 90 seconds (because it marvelously sets the tone) and some tidbits throughout. Then the soundtrack slowly gets introduced (only the real somber tones) as we build up to a kind of PTSD-climax.

https://streamable.com/fujjec

Incredible work, so far – both to you as well as to everyone who has chimed-in with so many great ideas. This new WIP with its superb editing, just had me teary-eyed! It captures the monotony/intensity dynamic of PTSD well. I take it you’ve been, “doing your homework.” 💯👍🏼🔥

Thank you, and thanks to the community. The back and forth og ideas and feedback is crafting good things.

Thank you. Hehe, yes (if you know you know).

vranir said:

I really like this, including the music. That said, the pre-title part is incredibly short, as is the title itself. I’d consider putting the title after the entire video shown here, as well as providing a little bit longer establishing shots to start out and transitioning to the Lars farm stuff watching after the first set of flashbacks.

True. I’ll prolong the title.

Hmm, I kind of like the pace of that sequence, but I’ll look into perhaps adding an establishing shot.

Opening

So, NFBisms made one hell of a opening in the spirit of what I think most of us expected the tone of Kenobi to be, and people really wanted to see it in this edit when it dropped. Me and NFBisms talked about it (page 16 or something) and I really wanted to use it, but parts of it broke with the promised tone of the rest of my edit (mostly the complete lack of music and too rapid of a pace).

So, what I did was that I re-made the opening in the spirit of NFBisms’s opening, and completely stole his first 90 seconds (because it marvelously sets the tone) and some tidbits throughout. Then the soundtrack slowly gets introduced (only the real somber tones) as we build up to a kind of PTSD-climax.

https://streamable.com/fujjec

MandThUlti said:

Anjohan said:

Video Update - The Full Escape [Beta ? ]

https://streamable.com/afhtpd

-> (Re-)Added Intercom Dialogue with Haja, and some new dialogue to create some character growth and motivation.
-> Added shadows and enviorement interaction to and from door, in the escape part (at the end).
-> a lot more.

You did a superb job with this! Truly impressed! Adding Leia to the scenes and the transitions feel very natural. One point I’d like to say is that after he enters the structure from the water and disposes that first trooper. I feel like he needs to hide earlier from the two patrolling troopers. There’s a split second where the scene is empty. Maybe elongate the time before the troopers enter the scene.

Funny you should say that, because I already have. Not even joking. Prolonged it with 1 second as requested by someone on page 16/17. I can prolong it even further.

Thank you for the compliment and support.

And yes, I will smooth and enhance little Leia more tomorrow. I have read your feedbacks and suggestions.

^ That one cost money. Found one tho’ (thanks to you). This took me an agonizing 90 minutes. Here you go:

https://streamable.com/0zvxe2

-> Added some (fake) shadows as she walks
-> Added some (fake) light as she walks
-> and my favorite thing in life; rotoscoping (yeah, that was a joke)

My brain is too used to it now to evaluate the overall impression, but I’d say it works as long as I desaturate her a little bit more (she looks very red, but it’s mostly the compression - looks fine in HD) and you you don’t stare at it like it’s the center of attention (which we now do).

Come with ideas on how to possibly improve, if it does not work for any of you.

Video Update - The Full Escape [Beta ? ]

https://streamable.com/afhtpd

-> (Re-)Added Intercom Dialogue with Haja, and some new dialogue to create some character growth and motivation.
-> Added shadows and enviorement interaction to and from door, in the escape part (at the end).
-> a lot more.