Anakin Starkiller

I posted this on its own simply because I didn’t know where else to put it, and to get maximum attention.

I prefer this poster to the official one. It seems much more in line with those of the rest of the saga.

I don’t feel like reading your whole changelist, so could you give me a brief overview of the major changes?

https://youtu.be/KxCaoDVKvyg

It didn’t make sense for the stormtrooper to be wearing white in a forest. Of course, it would be too hard to recolor every one in the movie frame by frame, but I’d be happy with just a few to show they exist. Lucky for me, this shot features a dead stormtrooper, meaning I only had to recolor him once for the whole sequence. Unfortunately, there’s a thin white outline to the part I overlaid with the recoloring, and I don’t know how to get rid of it.

https://youtu.be/UZhCGrXxOno

The way that all the Jedi except for Windu get killed so quickly by Palpatine always bugged me. They’re supposed to be master duelists, yet they die such pathetic deaths. The first two die before even landing a hit. Fisto fairs a little better, but not by much. To fix this issue, I reordered some shots in the scene to imply they lasted a while before being struck down, cutting back and forth between Palpatine’s arrest and Anakin and Padme thinking and gazing out the window.

TV’s Frink said:

-There are a bunch of videogame cutscenes.
-The Jedi are all clueless buffoons.
-Anakin turns evil at the snap of a finger, spends one whole line saying he shouldn’t have, then goes right back to being evil.
-Ian (who I will grant is very good most of the time) has an incredibly stupid lightsaber fight with Mace Windu (including some truly awful dialogue), and then manages to have an even stupider lightsaber fight with Yoda in which he doesn’t just chew the scenery, he swallows it whole.
-Anakin and Obi-Wan play lightsaber Frogger.
-Padme dies of a broken heart.

Magnificent film-making!

The only things you listed that I agree are problems are Padme’s death and Anakin’s turn. Okay, and the office duel, but just the first part, because of how ridiculously quickly Palpatine kills the Jedi. I actually just edited that scene today to fix that very problem (https://youtu.be/UZhCGrXxOno). Personally, I find one of the movie’s biggest flaws, if a really subtle one, is that we spend way too much time on the boring subplot of Palpatine wanting Anakin on the Council, and possibly other talky shenanigans. It’s probably the biggest offender of the PT’s chronic problem of Coruscant killing the pacing. There’s nothing wrong with talky scenes (we all know how great the opera scene is), but I’d have much rather seen the parts about the seeds of the Rebellion.

TV’s Frink said:

Hahaha, so emotional and beautifully tragic!

I didn’t say it was perfect, just that I loved it. There’s no denying it has some issues.

TV’s Frink said:

Look, if you enjoy the prequels on some level, fine, but putting them on the same level as the OT (and calling ROTS a masterpiece, for heaven’s sake) is just flat-out crazy.

I didn’t mean that it’s an objectively phenomenal film, just that it is to me.

My favorite film of all time is pretty much a tie (or should I say TIE) between ANH and RotS. I love them both for different reasons (and nostalgia isn’t one of them). I’ll admit that RotS is really slow in the middle, but everything else makes up for it. Besides, I’m sure there’s fan edits that remove that stuff. The opening is a lighthearted adventure, and the rest is really emotional and beautifully tragic. ANH is just a lighthearted adventure the whole way through. As for other movies I really love, the only ones that come to mind are Wall-E and Up, but I’m sure there are others (and not just Pixar movies).

Possessed said:

Of course they aren’t terrible. They’re just terrible compared to the originals.

Even compared to the originals, they’re not that bad. ANH is great, ESB is okay, and RotJ has some glaring issues, but is otherwise enjoyable. TPM is really fun (save for some bits in the middle (mainly Coruscant)), AotC is a slog (the only SW movie I might say is genuinely bad), and RotS is a freaking masterpiece. Overall, I don’t see any overall difference in quality between the trilogies.

Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga could use a remake. The graphics themselves haven’t aged too badly; it’s the minifigures that have. But really, I’d want tons of new levels and characters too.

My point is that if you find ESB scary, you’re probably just not old enough for SW in general. I don’t get your whole “too young for the OT” thing. If they’re too young for that, they’re too young for the rest. Also, I first watched RotS at around five years old, and the only part that was too scary was the immolation scene, where I mostly covered my eyes. Of course, the politics went over my head. I didn’t what a chancellor or even a council was.

Personally, I like the tone of the Columbus films best, but I just made a post about that. I just wanted to point out that it should be Harry Potter and the Philospher’s Stone, as that’s the intended title, and refers to an actual mythological object, unlike the Sorceror’s Stone.

NeverarGreat said:

I’m thinking it would be for very young children whose parents want to show them something Star Wars but don’t think they’re ready for the OT (I had to leave the room when I first watched Empire at age 5 or so). It’s designed to fit with the general tone of The Clone Wars and Rebels.

ESB is nowhere near the darkest part of SW. RotS, CW, and of course RO have much darker content.

I like the first four Harry Potter movies, but find the second half of the series really dull. I’m pretty sure David Yates is to blame. The films lack the whimsiness and fun of the first few films. I get that it’s supposed to gradually get darker as the films go on, but this is too “YA” to my liking. Splitting 7 was a terrible idea. They should’ve recast Crabbe instead of replacing him (it’s just one scene, so we don’t have to see him too clearly).

Now there are also a few problems with the series in general. Why is Dobby abscent in films 4-6, despite being there in the books? How am I supposed to care when he dies? Film Hermione suffers from the Legolas effect, with Ron as Gimli. No one important except Cedric Diggory comes from Hufflepuff while Slytherin seems one-dimensionally evil. And so many plotholes from poor worldbuilding (timeturner, liquid luck, putting students in deadly competitions, etc.). Back to my bit about the films getting darker, did they have to get darker so early on? The moment Chris Columbus wasn’t involved, it felt much less lighthearted. Couldn’t the dark tone have waited until Voldemort’s return?

In case you’re wondering I haven’t read the books. Any edits to recommend?

I just don’t see the point. The show is already a perfect telling of the story. I don’t see how you could possibly make it better, especially with such poor source material (the movie, I mean).

I like Bingowings’ idea of retooling the footage to tell a different story, though I’m not sure it should necessarily be about the buildup to the Time War. Personally, I think it would be really cool if we could get two stories out of it, just so the Eighth Doctor can have more than one full-length TV outing. We’ve got around three and a half classic episodes’ worth of footage, so I’d say we aim for three episodes. We could also try reworking another Paul McGann movie (Downtime, maybe?) into a Doctor Who story.

Exterminating the Master in the Dalek Parliament from Asylum of the Daleks is a great idea, although we’d have to make sure there’s no trace of the Paradigm Daleks, as they wouldn’t exist yet. We should definitely give Ainley a cameo in that scene.

nightstalkerpoet said:

Ep 1 - Mists of Destruction
Ep 2 - The Fog of War
Ep 3 - Haze of the Beast

Too vague and figurative.

Valheru_84 said:

FVDnz said:

With speculation that Hayden Christiansen may return in The Last Jedi to reprise Force Ghost Anakin, will he remain at the end of ROTJR?! I know Adywan intends on reinserting Sebastian Shaw and all, but at the end of the day, he’s still not regarding the Sequel Trilogy is he? Maybe recreate a more decent looking Force Ghost version of Hayden compared to what we got recently possibly…

Keep Shaw in the OT and edit him into the ST if needed and possible or just cut out Hayden if that’s the case. The less Hayden in SW the better! I kid you not, I hated his performance far more than Jake Loyd’s as Anakin. And there was nothing wrong with leaving Shaw in in the first place since Anakin / Darth Vader is old when he dies anyway! Freaking GL meddling with things that ain’t broke!

.Val

By that logic, Anakin’s ghost should be a hairless quadruple amputee like in the HISHE.

Hal 9000 said:

Don’t talk shit about the Holiday Special. It’s unironically good.

https://media.giphy.com/media/12Nv3nBSCAbLO0/200.gif

Please explain.

This has probably been asked before, but why was Ponda Baba’s arm replaced with Evazan’s?

When Luke ask Ben about his father, he starts singing “A long, long time ago, in a galaxy far away/Naboo was under an attack.”

If only you could get Tom Kane to narrate the crawl.

It’s Leia, not Leah!

As for replacing Hayden’s Anakin being obvious, to me, leaving him seems way more logical, as it’s what Anakin actually looked like, as opposed to some random guy who sorta resembles an unmasked Vader.

TV’s Frink said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Leia looked perfect in RO.

Hardly.

Looks like your standards are as ridiculous as your edits.

doubleofive said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Funcha said:

I think the idea is interesting, but in execution I don’t see how you could integrate any of the video game footage into any of the films without the switch being incredibly jarring.

What makes you say that?

The difference between film quality CGI/models and video game CGI is still rather large. Say nothing of the live action people and environments to CGI.

The movies already have plenty of CGI (the more recent, the more CGI), and it looks fine. As long as you’re not using CGI humans, but even then, Leia looked perfect in RO.

Funcha said:

I think the idea is interesting, but in execution I don’t see how you could integrate any of the video game footage into any of the films without the switch being incredibly jarring.

What makes you say that?