same here please. scoured the internet but no luck. worse, i had a 2 TB hard disk crash on me and it looks like some of the edits are gone forever
i would love to see this!
Wow, this looks great! Can't believe i didn't notice the topic before. And you even used the GOUT audio!
Could you please send me a pm as well? Thank you for your effort to make these edits!
"Young Skywalker" sounds just fine. I agree the original dialogue doesn't give away too much.
One thing that's bugging me a bit about some of these (otherwise very lovely) window mock-ups is the sharp focus. Unless you're intentionally going for a Welles/Bogdanovich deep-focus shot (which strikes me as out of place here, especially if this is just, pardon the pun, window dressing) wouldn't it be preferable to soften the focus a bit?
Indeed, also you might want to make sure they don't distracting. That's one of the main problems with adding cgi to something that didn't have any in the first place, it sticks out and distracts from the characters.
There's a debate? I only made that mock up cause someone requested it and I thought it sounded fun to do! Sorry if anyone thought I was seriously suggesting it should be used.
Though as someone else already mentioned, seeing Slave 1 use a cloaking device would actually make Captain Needa's line have a whole new meaning... to have a real meaning besides being a throwaway line, actually! And would show that Captain Needa didn't really know as much about cloaking devices as he thought he did, and making Imperial Officers look pretty bad in the process.
BUT... as I said already, my mock up was never meant to be taken seriously as a consideration for adding to ESB:R. (ALL THE OTHER ONES ARE! Just saying....)
Oh, sorry I thought we were considering this. Never mind my post then.
Though I really did like Boba's chuckle at the end.
With all this Jar jar talk lately, you know what I'd really like to see:
When Ady does Episode I, I picture Jar jar showing up at the beginning, let him say something stupid and then kill him off right then and there by a droid or whatever (something random) and just never show him or refer to him again. At that moment it would give you a feeling like "okay, this will be different and better this time" right at the beginning of the new PT edits.
Anyways, on the cloaking device debate: Just seconds earlier we hear the imperial officer say "no ship this size has a cloaking device". It would be weird to have Boba's ship go into cloaking mode just moments afterwards. The scene also shows that while Han is able to outsmart the empire, he has met his match with Boba, who uses the same tactic on him.
I just noticed something about the interior of the SD shot. The two officers standing that much apart... dunno if that really works. Somehow the way they stand just feels like they should stand closer together. you know people restrain their body movements more, the closer they get to others. I am aware that in the military this is standard protocol, but something about those two officers just doesn't feel right yet. What was your reason for putting them further apart?
I've just watched the Purist Edition, and this is by far THE version of reference I will have from now on :P
Same for me. The music edits and the dialogue changes in Ben's hut didn't work for me, so I'm glad this version was released.
Works perfectly for me. I agree that the one X-Wing getting hit adds to the suspense. The music still works in a sense that the rebels managed to get out of this tight situation.
I didn't notice the window thing at all myself. Didn't pause the scene though, I just watched it at normal speed 3 times and it all looked good there.
I really can't wait for this edit. I believe it may actually surpass ANH:R. And no matter what ILM dish out for the blu-ray release, there's no way there're gonna top what Ady is doing here. His versions are the new definitive editions.
If i remember correctly, there's an extended version of the 3d scene among the extras of the oficial release. I haven't seen it, but it sounds interesting
Those are obviously the same ships. I like the idea of putting some on fire or so, but then again this scene goes by quickly and the center of attention will always be the charging a-wing.
But back to ESB: I always preferred the shot with the gas refinery. Of course the shot looks dated nowadays, but they are beatifully drawn and by no means take you out of the movie. Updating the clouds to whirl as the ships fly through is a great idea, but I wouldn't go all out creating a new bespin intro. Chances are, we'll be getting those for the Blue Ray release anyways.
I can't wait! I'm still waiting for the ultimate edition of this very underrated movie.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that ADM's edition used the new remastered DVD of the TV cut as source, while Fanfilration used the old release. I've only seen the adm edit, so I can't say myself, but since you said you are uing Fanfiltration's edit as base for yours, you may want to look into that.
I'd love to see the TV cut of Darkman II. I always felt that movie had a lot of potential.
The TV Pilot was on torrent a while ago, but it seems dead now
I tried it via cut & paste, but it didn't work. But a recolouring & contrast change did improve things.
What makes this shot look weird isn't the colouring though rather than the fact that the star destroyers aren't flying parrallel. Granted, they wouldn't have to, as there is no up and down in space, but it still looks weird.
Especially with the lighting coming from below but only reaching the smaller ship.
Fixing this shot would be a LOT of work...
Wingreen's performance is a lot better indeed. Morrison sounds like he's asleep. However, the original voice could use some reverb or distortion on it. It sounds too clear compared to Vader's voice.
The split comparism once again really shows how messed up the picture on the 2004 dvds is. I'm glad I kept my old VHS and didn't waste any money on them.
Seriously, the best thing Lucasfilm could do, would be to hire Adywan as creative director for the HD release.
and the other is it kinda took me back to earth when i saw it this time. maybe that's just me though.
Many of these ideas have been posted before, but I'll repeat them just for good measure:
-Smoothen the Tauntaun movements
-When the Wampa grabs the Tauntaun, the arm is seen just a few frames too long. You can easily tell it's someone wearing a glove. A few frames cut could do the trick.
-Chewie's roars are at times annoyingly loud, especially on the 2004 DVD version. Most of them could be toned down aout 5-10%. I double checked on linear studio speakers ;)
-At about 7 minutes into the movie, in the rebel base, there's a shot in which a Tauntaun is in the front of the picture at the beginning of the shot. It's kind of a cliché 80s shot to liven up the picture, but since the TT looks fake and out o focus, I think it doesn't really add to the scene.
-In the Wampa cave when Luke frees himself and falls to the ground, the Wampa should be closing in, but he is nowhere to be seen. That should be fixed. Aside of that, I can live without the 2004 shot of him. If you're keeping the original version, maybe you will want to add a bit of a camera shake, when he closes in on Luke.
-Everyone talks about the Hoth shield, but we never actually see it. Depending on what you want to do with RotJ, you may want to add a shield opening, when the rebel transports leave Hoth.
-Hoth Battle: Now the dream would be to see a much bigger battle with added AT-ATs and AT-STs, but that would probably be way too much work. Adding a few background AT-ATs as in your trailer is cool though. I did notice, when I watched the movie, that the battle seemed pretty balanced. There were neither too many Snowspeeders nor Imperial units. This balance should be kept. One scene where I could imagine the AT-STs would be when the rebel soldiers are fleeing and you see them running towards the Camera with the walkers in the background. You could have some AT-STs behind them picking them off as they run. [img]http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/6/67/Battle_of_Hoth.jpg[/img]
In the story, the AT-STs attack Ion cannon. Could be fun to see it get blown up, but could possibly just distract from the main story.
-Upgrade laser impacts on AT-ATs. Some leave no mark at all (even the shots from the big stationary turrets). Maybe burn marks on the AT ATs would look interesting.
-Add whirling snow when AT-AT falls. Something that heavy should create quite an impact, even in wet snow.
-Inside the rebel base, one of the Snow troopers is weirdly holding on to his mask. Looks wrong. More Snow troopers would be cool, but I have no idea how it could be pulled off.
-Black R2D2 -> Blue
-Maybe more TIEs could be added to the asteroid field chase. As it is, I find it hard to imagine they'd only have 4 ships available to chase the Falcon.
-Add a cam shake to the interior shot of the Star Destroyed during the "evasive action" scene. As it is, you just see actors falling around without getting a feeling for the forces at work.
-There's a really obvious real-life snake early on in Dagobar (Boa or Python). Could be recoloured. Same goes for the Iguana in the cave. Not sure he is necessary at all.
-Upgrade explosion of Star Destroyer bridge hit by Asteroid.
-Entering Bespin: Not sure if this was upgraded in the 2004 versions, but the clouds in the back of Luke's X-Wing looked really bad in the original.
-Just before the Duel between Luke and Vader a door closes before R2. Just not completely.
-During the escape scene, a stormtrooper is hit by laser fire without visible impact and just falls down. Upgraded impacts or burn marks on stormtroopers would be an improvement
-The new exterior shots of Bespin look nice. The "upgraded" interior shots however don't work. The suspense suffers from opening the place up and the orange lighting distracts from the white interiors. It also takes away the claustrophobic feel of the original.
-New Emperor scene: A hybrid between 2004 and RotJ sounds best to me. Don't like the new dialogue though.
-Finally: The infamous "Bring my shuttle" Scene. The SE Version is just horrible and disrupts the flow of the rescue scene. However the same could be said about the old version, which also notably cuts into the music. I consider it the only major flaw in the original movie. I'm not sure the scene could be placed any earlier, probably the only thing to do is keep the original version.
What probably not to do:
-Adding lightsaber retraction shots to Luke leaving Wampa cave and getting blown out of Bespin window scenes. It would just distract from whats going on and in the latter scene there's a lot of noise anyways.
-Adding any music. It can really change the feel of a scene and to be honest, I think the added music to the OBI-Wan and Vader duel is the only thing that really didn't work in your ANH edit. Maybe it'd work differently for ESB since the unused music was originally written for those scenes, but the scenes are pretty much perfect the way they are.
Hope this will be of some help for your edit. Once again, thanks for the tremendous effort. ANH Revistited really put the official Special Editions to shame.
I don't know if it's loo late for this, but I'd have a few suggestions for a final version:
-In Neo's dialogue with the Architect, there is one strongly noticable cut at 2:32 before the sentence "She would undoubtably be it's mother." He speaks of an "intuitive program" earlier, so "it" would refer to this program, rather than the matrix as in the original dialogue, where he refers to himself as the father of the matrix.
-Just before this scene, when Neo confronts the Source in Matrix Revolutions, there is a bit of dialogue:
<Neo: I only ask to say what I've come to say. After that you can do what you want, and I won't try and stop you.
Deus Ex Machina: Speak.">
This, together with Neo being plugged in, could serve as a good transition to the dialogue with the Architect
-At the very end (don't want to spoil it) how about letting the piano break from Rob D's "Clubbed to Death" play from the speakers? It's a very emotional piece and would also serve as a tie in with the music from part 1. And the transition to the credits would be perfect (with the beats kicking in when the screen goes black)
Adywan, though I haven't seen the edit yet and suppressed the urge to watch (most of) the previews, I want to thank you for all the work you put into this project. I believe your version may actually let us relive the magic once again!
I was able to covert them to avi, but the quality is still horrible.