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#1422673
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The End of the Jedi (Ep. 8 and 9) (RELEASED)
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“I could do this, but I think it would make the film worse overall. The main problem is there is nothing for Finn to do for the first half of the film, so just having him wake up at the beginning and then disappear for an hour wouldn’t be good. Instead, I think it makes sense that he has healed up because considerable time has passed since the end of TFA.”

what if you kept the resistance arc but remove Po’s plan to save the resistance so that it adds to the urgency of Rey trying to get Luke to join the resistance and we would’nt spend a lot of time with them it would just be like minute long scenes sprinkled in-between luke and reys story and add the deleted scene where po gives finn the jacket back since it would add another nice moment between them and also reinstate the salt planet scene since its a much more fitting end to lukes storyline and this way you can keep the scene were rey exiles herself and also all of the jedi voices. and this would fix the plothole where luke is alive and kylo knows where he is yet never does anything about it . and you could keep the scene with leia you would just have to make them both force ghosts.

“I’m curious how it ruins the scene for you personally. It definitely changes the implications, but I think it’s more interesting because now Kylo knows Snoke is a puppet of the emperor and he decides to kill him anyway, defying the emperor in the process. So it’s trying to tie the two characters together. I originally had it the other way but got suggestions on fanedit.org to change it this way and I think its better. It also improves the pacing by getting that exposition scene out of the way earlier.”

since I still beleave snoke was in some way a independent being with his own thoughts (I don’t even think he knew about palpatine) having kylo learn that snoke was made by palpatine while snoke is still alive ruins the scene where kylo kills him because now that we know he was a puppet it does’nt feel like a big deal it does’nt feel like he just betrayed his master now it just feels like he was trading one out for the another. also I did’nt like it because it did’nt really effect anything for another like 30 minutes of movie and if there is still supposed to be a time gap between the last jedi section and the rise of skywalker section then that means that kylo learned that the emperor is alive but does’nt do anything about it for years. if you had it after snokes death the realization that palpatine made snoke would feel more like a big twist like oh my god snoke was just a pawn this was all part of his plan

“I agree that Palpatine’s plan makes no sense but that was equally true in the theatrical cut. Palpatine’s plan is still pretty much the same in my edit (“kill the girl!.. wait actually bring her here so I can make her the emperor… OR if that doesn’t work, I’ll just suck out her life force instead” -Palpatine). I tried to improve it by cutting some dialog where he explains his plans outright.”

I think his plan made some sense in the original, tell kylo to kill rey knowing he would’nt do it and would bring her to him so he can posses her and if that does’nt work kill her myself I don’t think he knew about the force dyat thing being able to heal him.

“Also importantly, I removed the line where Palpatine explains “my spirit will pass into you”. So it can be seen more as simply a sith ritual where he is trying to turn her to the dark side by using her anger, instead of an actual spirit transfer which has never happened in star wars up to this point.”

I saw a video about how the sequel trilogy is a remake of the Dark Empire comic series which is a divisive comic but I kinda like it and there palpatine’s plan was to posses leia’s baby so It kinda was a thing in star wars before and if anything it makes a little more sense in rise of skywalker then it did in dark empire

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#1420008
Topic
The End of the Jedi (Ep. 8 and 9) (RELEASED)
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Its really well done but In my opinion it creates many more problems then it fixes

first I think you forgot to remove a scene because all of roses scenes are removed except the one where finn asks her if she wants to come along and thats the only time she appears in the movie so I don’t know why you left it in

also for the scene with luke and leia I think it would have been Better if you had it take place at night with the moonlight illuminating them, that way the vfx would be less distracting because its darker you would’nt be able to see them as clearly and would also hid the rotoscope errors. And this way it would fix the weird lighting when luke arrives (because it doesn’t look like they were in the same place) and just in general they would fit in a bit more because the lighting would be closer to how it was in the original scene.

I would also have kept at the very least the start of the resistance storyline from last Jedi where Finn wakes up since last time we saw finn he was unconscious and in critical condition so it would probably be better to still pay that off.

I would also put all of the Palpatine stuff after ben kills Snoke since putting it before kinda doesn’t make sense and it ruins the scene where he kills Snoke for me

and the only other thing I feel like writing about would be that you should have added ether a body hitting the floor sound or a neck snap when Ben is choking Hux so his disappearance from the rest of the movie is now clear to the audience

also I don’t know if removing the force heal was a good idea since now Ben’s arc feels unfinished and this combined with removed Rey being Palpatines granddaughter makes Palpatines plan make absolutely no sense

and I think that you should have kept the scene where Rey tries to exile herself since now that she killed Ben its more justified, and her getting Leia’s saber from Luke answers the question on why she isn’t using it at all

and I understand added the orange eyes when Rey kills Palpatine but it creates a massive plot hole where she kills Palpatine in anger like he wanted yet his essence doesn’t enter her and I think you could have kept the voices of the other jedi helping Rey since it gave the scene a little more something

other problems I have would probably be harder to fix like now the knights of Ren and captain Phasma now being Mia and Finn getting no real story arc at all and that one old general just showing up out of nowhere.

its still very well done and I couldn’t do better it just creates too many flaws for me to say its the definitive way to watch them